Biden Blames Guns For Rising Crime

[2aguy]

More evidence of Murders used by guns:

Mass Shootings in the United States

Mass shootings haunt our nation’s collective conscience. Each breaking-news alert results in grief at the acts of preventable violence.

everytownresearch.org

Everytown for Gun Confiscation? Are you serious using that source?

Here ....guns save lives...

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

More evidence of Murders used by guns:

Mass Shootings in the United States

Mass shootings haunt our nation’s collective conscience. Each breaking-news alert results in grief at the acts of preventable violence.

everytownresearch.org

Everytown?

The group that lists gang shootouts at 2am on an outdoor school basketball court as a school shooting?

Spare me that bullshit.

LOL, Really, you want to shoot the messenger (metaphorically).

See: Our Research | Everytown Research & Policy

Then tell the readers how much research is done by The Daly Caller.

Hey....shithead......how about mother jones.....

They actually report mass public shootings accurately....you idiot...

US mass shootings, 1982–2021: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.


Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017


795


knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591
Rifle murder....

2009---351
2010---367
2011---332
2012---298
2013---285

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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...

I have put obama's updated number in parenthesis..........

we will see....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2020....1

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

 

[2aguy]

Barry and Biden weren't blaming the GUNS when they were running them to terrorists and Mexican Cartels....and evidently they believe the only ones who could / can safely, responsibly handle guns are terrorists and Cartels:

View attachment 504397

Since he gave terrorists and Cartels guns and only gave law-abiding citizens Obama-phones....

LIAR the gun fiasco was established during the Bush II administration. You know that, and making this claim is more proof you are a damn lair..

Wrong, you idiot......Bush had "Wide Reciever," a program that they ended when they lost control of a couple of guns....

obama and eric holder had "Fast and Furious..." where they allowed over 3,000 guns to be sold to Mexican cartels with no control over finding them again..

You idiot.

 

[easyt65]

Rye is getting his ass cut from all sides, beat down with facts and figures.

 

[2aguy]

Because we all know the world was crime free before the first gun.
I put my guns in a corner in front of me so I can keep on eye on them in case they get any criminal ideas.

Biden Feels Rise In Crime Is A Result Of Gun Violence, Psaki Says

Jen Psaki attributed the country's rising crime to gun violence ahead of President Joe Biden's plans to speak about his crime prevention strategy.

dailycaller.com

Do you believe that easy availability to drugs causes more drug use?

Would having no speed limits on our highways lead to more accidents?

Increasing number of guns, and increasing number of people who actually carry guns for self defense?

What happened?



Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Guns don't cause crime.....the democrat party constantly releasing the same violent gun offenders causes gun crime...

 

[Auld Phart]

Barry and Biden weren't blaming the GUNS when they were running them to terrorists and Mexican Cartels....and evidently they believe the only ones who could / can safely, responsibly handle guns are terrorists and Cartels:

View attachment 504397

Since he gave terrorists and Cartels guns and only gave law-abiding citizens Obama-phones....

LIAR the gun fiasco was established during the Bush II administration. You know that, and making this claim is more proof you are a damn lair..

Wrong, you idiot......Bush had "Wide Reciever," a program that they ended when they lost control of a couple of guns....

obama and eric holder had "Fast and Furious..." where they allowed over 3,000 guns to be sold to Mexican cartels with no control over finding them again..

You idiot.

They both fell under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner : ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia
which obviously confuses democrats.

 

[2aguy]

Does having speed limits prevent speeding? The evidence OVERWHELMINGLY suggests otherwise

Do people even follow speed limits?

Very True, both insipid and sophistry.

Do all drivers have a license to drive, and if they drive too fast to often they will lose said license and driving with a suspended or revoked license requires all vehicles registered to the speeder [in some states), or drunk driver/reckless drivers will have their vehicle confiscated.

Is driving a car a Right? So....you want to charge a fee before people can vote too...right? You want to require a test before people can vote? Or is that only for blacks who vote....? As the democrats used both poll taxes and literacy tests to prevent blacks from voting...

You want to use fees and tests to prevent people from owing and carrying a gun......

Do you want to require a fee for a licenses for anyone who writes books, magazines, short stories? So that we know they understand libel laws? You know.....so they don't libel people...?

 

[2aguy]

Because we all know the world was crime free before the first gun.
I put my guns in a corner in front of me so I can keep on eye on them in case they get any criminal ideas.

Biden Feels Rise In Crime Is A Result Of Gun Violence, Psaki Says

Jen Psaki attributed the country's rising crime to gun violence ahead of President Joe Biden's plans to speak about his crime prevention strategy.

dailycaller.com

Do you believe that easy availability to drugs causes more drug use?

Would having no speed limits on our highways lead to more accidents?

Do you believe that easy availability to drugs causes more drug use?

Poor sample.

Millions of people have used prescription drugs legally with suffering addition, or misuse.

So, why have laws against them being sold at any store without a doctor? Can't people just make an self informed decision?

You think people should need a prescription to be able to take advantage of a Constitutional Right?

Any author should be required to get a license to print what they write....you know, to prevent them from committing libel...

 

[2aguy]

No effort has been posted to object to Gun Controls. The only fall back position is a four word phrase: "shall not be infringed".

That too is an absurd excuse since nothing in the 2nd A. mentions guns, only Arms. And no rational person will take, "shall not be infringed" to allow all Arms in the hands of our citizens.

Mass Shootings in America | Everytown Research & Policy

The evidence is clear, and of course those above who rely on the four words will not read the evidence that gun controls are necessary.

Necessary for what, it's been proven time and again that gun controls don't effect criminals. They only prevent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. It's way past time to get more criminal controls, that is the only evidence that is clear.

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You're ludicrous. Gun Control is a general term, not one specific to already criminals. If you had not mocked Everytown Research & Policy you might, possibly, well unlikely understand that those who have never committed a crime will murder at will.

So give the class the odds that you will be one that will murder at will? That's assuming you're not already a fucking criminal.

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You've now passed being ludicrous, you've now reached the level of preposterous.

Just extending your supposed point to it's logical conclusion. Does that make you uncomfortable?

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Do speed limits affect criminals? No? Let's get rid of them.

Do laws against drugs affect criminals? No? Then let's get rid of those laws too.

Did laws against political graft affect the trump's? No? Then out they go.

You are an idiot....

We have those to punish not prevent...

We have 20,000 gun laws on the books already to punish when people use guns illegally...

You want pre-crime...where you stop people from committing the gun crime before they break the law.

It is already against the law to use a gun to commit a crime........you moron.

 

[2aguy]

Because we all know the world was crime free before the first gun.
I put my guns in a corner in front of me so I can keep on eye on them in case they get any criminal ideas.

Biden Feels Rise In Crime Is A Result Of Gun Violence, Psaki Says

Jen Psaki attributed the country's rising crime to gun violence ahead of President Joe Biden's plans to speak about his crime prevention strategy.

dailycaller.com

President Biden is correct, the number of gun crimes have increased:

7 killed, more than 40 injured in 10 mass shootings across the US over the weekend | CNN

There have been 293 mass shootings in 2021 as of Monday morning, according to gunviolencearchive.org.

www.cnn.com

Chilling 911 calls released from night of mass shooting outside El Mula Banquet Hall

Help arrived within minutes of the first call, but by the time paramedics and police pulled up, 23 people had already been shot.

www.local10.com

Juneteenth celebrations, graduation party, concert all marred by weekend gun violence

Juneteenth parties in California, South Carolina, Michigan and Colorado, a graduation party in Philadelphia and a concert in Baton Rouge were all marred by gun violence.

abcnews.go.com

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Gun Violence Archive

www.gunviolencearchive.org

The US had 692 mass shootings in 2021. Here's the full list.

Firearms have become one of the leading causes of death for Americans of all ages and the second-leading cause of death for kids under the age of 19.

www.insider.com

Not from guns, sorry. People are the causation.

Another brilliant remark. How many times is this ludicrous comment going to be posted?

Q. How many mass murders have been committed by one person without a gun?

A. A Bomb (Unibomber, Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph come to my mind); a knife (Richard Speck); and how many murdered by guns per day on the average this year:

"Through the first five months of 2021, gunfire killed more than 8,100 people in the United States, about 54 lives lost per day, according to a Washington Post analysis of data from the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit research organization. That’s 14 more deaths per day than the average toll during the same period of the previous six years."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/14/2021-gun-violence/

You are a typical asshole anti-gun extremist...

You just intentionally mixed mass public shootings with day to day crime....

Two entirely different dynamics at work...but you have to lie and mix the two because if you are honest....you have no argument...

Mass public shootings are the rarest of rare events.....most people understand a mass public shooting to be a stranger walking into a public place and shooting random people...

All the other gun crime is committed by criminals....with long histories of crime and violence....and they murder other criminals also with long histories of crime and violence...

Of the 10,235 gun murder in 2019.....73 were from mass public shootings...

So you mix the criminals shooting other criminals with mass public shootings because 73 is a microscopic number when it comes to trying to stampede uninformed people into surrendering their gun Rights....

73 people killed by mass public shooters in 2019.

200 people are killed by deer...yes, bambi, every single year.....

300 people die falling off of ladders....

90-100 people die using lawn mowers....


So you mix gang bangers murdering each other to scare uninformed people........who understand that as long as they are not criminals...do not have family members who are criminals...do not hang around with friends who are criminals...they will never experience gun violence...

And that just doesn't give you the power you need to ban and confiscate guns...

 

[2aguy]

I have never seen any gun commit a crime without help from a person.

WOW, what an original comment. Not only is it insipid, it's foolish too.

Wow bet the irony of you saying that to anyone is totally lost on you. What is stupid, foolish and insipid is someone blaming the weapon used any crime for the crime. The rise we are seeing in crime across the country is primarily due to defunding the police, trashing and vilifying police and treating every cop like they are Derek Chauvin and in some cases dumb ass District Attorney’s who refuse prosecute people. These have far more to do with the rise in crime than the choice weapon used to commit the crimes wise up.

And each of those problems is caused by the democrat party...

 

[2aguy]

I have never seen any gun commit a crime without help from a person.

WOW, what an original comment. Not only is it insipid, it's foolish too.

Wow bet the irony of you saying that to anyone is totally lost on you. What is stupid, foolish and insipid is someone blaming the weapon used any crime for the crime. The rise we are seeing in crime across the country is primarily due to defunding the police, trashing and vilifying police and treating every cop like they are Derek Chauvin and in some cases dumb ass District Attorney’s who refuse prosecute people. These have far more to do with the rise in crime than the choice weapon used to commit the crimes wise up.

This is your opinion. I don't know of any Police or Sheriff's Dept to have yet been defunded. No such agencies within the jurisdiction of California have been defunded. There are very few prosecutors who refuse to prosecute people. Maybe you ought to do some research before you make silly statements.

Moron...democrat party prosecutors are routinely refusing to prosecute criminals...plea bargaining away repeat felony gun violations, and calling for release without bail or release on home monitoring for even the most violent criminals...

The democrat party prosecutors and judges are repeatedly releasing violent offenders over and over again...

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Because we all know the world was crime free before the first gun.
I put my guns in a corner in front of me so I can keep on eye on them in case they get any criminal ideas.

Biden Feels Rise In Crime Is A Result Of Gun Violence, Psaki Says

Jen Psaki attributed the country's rising crime to gun violence ahead of President Joe Biden's plans to speak about his crime prevention strategy.

dailycaller.com

President Biden is correct, the number of gun crimes have increased:

7 killed, more than 40 injured in 10 mass shootings across the US over the weekend | CNN

There have been 293 mass shootings in 2021 as of Monday morning, according to gunviolencearchive.org.

www.cnn.com

Chilling 911 calls released from night of mass shooting outside El Mula Banquet Hall

Help arrived within minutes of the first call, but by the time paramedics and police pulled up, 23 people had already been shot.

www.local10.com

Juneteenth celebrations, graduation party, concert all marred by weekend gun violence

Juneteenth parties in California, South Carolina, Michigan and Colorado, a graduation party in Philadelphia and a concert in Baton Rouge were all marred by gun violence.

abcnews.go.com

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Gun Violence Archive

www.gunviolencearchive.org

The US had 692 mass shootings in 2021. Here's the full list.

Firearms have become one of the leading causes of death for Americans of all ages and the second-leading cause of death for kids under the age of 19.

www.insider.com

Fucking guns telling brain-dead leftists to fire?

Poor babies, been victimized by those naughty legal guns huh?

 

[jc456]

It is already against the law to use a gun to commit a crime........you moron.

he is spazzing out, it's what TDS does to a demofk. they spin violently into a frenzy and start speaking using turrets.

 

[otto105]

No effort has been posted to object to Gun Controls. The only fall back position is a four word phrase: "shall not be infringed".

That too is an absurd excuse since nothing in the 2nd A. mentions guns, only Arms. And no rational person will take, "shall not be infringed" to allow all Arms in the hands of our citizens.

Mass Shootings in America | Everytown Research & Policy

The evidence is clear, and of course those above who rely on the four words will not read the evidence that gun controls are necessary.

Necessary for what, it's been proven time and again that gun controls don't effect criminals. They only prevent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. It's way past time to get more criminal controls, that is the only evidence that is clear.

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You're ludicrous. Gun Control is a general term, not one specific to already criminals. If you had not mocked Everytown Research & Policy you might, possibly, well unlikely understand that those who have never committed a crime will murder at will.

So give the class the odds that you will be one that will murder at will? That's assuming you're not already a fucking criminal.

.

You've now passed being ludicrous, you've now reached the level of preposterous.

Just extending your supposed point to it's logical conclusion. Does that make you uncomfortable?

.

Do speed limits affect criminals? No? Let's get rid of them.

Do laws against drugs affect criminals? No? Then let's get rid of those laws too.

Did laws against political graft affect the trump's? No? Then out they go.

You are an idiot....

We have those to punish not prevent...

We have 20,000 gun laws on the books already to punish when people use guns illegally...

You want pre-crime...where you stop people from committing the gun crime before they break the law.

It is already against the law to use a gun to commit a crime........you moron.

Sure, how are they working?

 

[Auld Phart]

No effort has been posted to object to Gun Controls. The only fall back position is a four word phrase: "shall not be infringed".

That too is an absurd excuse since nothing in the 2nd A. mentions guns, only Arms. And no rational person will take, "shall not be infringed" to allow all Arms in the hands of our citizens.

Mass Shootings in America | Everytown Research & Policy

The evidence is clear, and of course those above who rely on the four words will not read the evidence that gun controls are necessary.

Necessary for what, it's been proven time and again that gun controls don't effect criminals. They only prevent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. It's way past time to get more criminal controls, that is the only evidence that is clear.

.

You're ludicrous. Gun Control is a general term, not one specific to already criminals. If you had not mocked Everytown Research & Policy you might, possibly, well unlikely understand that those who have never committed a crime will murder at will.

So give the class the odds that you will be one that will murder at will? That's assuming you're not already a fucking criminal.

.

You've now passed being ludicrous, you've now reached the level of preposterous.

Just extending your supposed point to it's logical conclusion. Does that make you uncomfortable?

.

Do speed limits affect criminals? No? Let's get rid of them.

Do laws against drugs affect criminals? No? Then let's get rid of those laws too.

Did laws against political graft affect the trump's? No? Then out they go.

You are an idiot....

We have those to punish not prevent...

We have 20,000 gun laws on the books already to punish when people use guns illegally...

You want pre-crime...where you stop people from committing the gun crime before they break the law.

It is already against the law to use a gun to commit a crime........you moron.

Sure, how are they working?

Do you think adding another 20,000 laws concerning firearms would make a difference?

GREAT IDEA

the first 20,000 aren't dong the job, so DOUBLE DOWN.

 

[2aguy]

No effort has been posted to object to Gun Controls. The only fall back position is a four word phrase: "shall not be infringed".

That too is an absurd excuse since nothing in the 2nd A. mentions guns, only Arms. And no rational person will take, "shall not be infringed" to allow all Arms in the hands of our citizens.

Mass Shootings in America | Everytown Research & Policy

The evidence is clear, and of course those above who rely on the four words will not read the evidence that gun controls are necessary.

Necessary for what, it's been proven time and again that gun controls don't effect criminals. They only prevent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. It's way past time to get more criminal controls, that is the only evidence that is clear.

.

You're ludicrous. Gun Control is a general term, not one specific to already criminals. If you had not mocked Everytown Research & Policy you might, possibly, well unlikely understand that those who have never committed a crime will murder at will.

So give the class the odds that you will be one that will murder at will? That's assuming you're not already a fucking criminal.

.

You've now passed being ludicrous, you've now reached the level of preposterous.

Just extending your supposed point to it's logical conclusion. Does that make you uncomfortable?

.

Do speed limits affect criminals? No? Let's get rid of them.

Do laws against drugs affect criminals? No? Then let's get rid of those laws too.

Did laws against political graft affect the trump's? No? Then out they go.

You are an idiot....

We have those to punish not prevent...

We have 20,000 gun laws on the books already to punish when people use guns illegally...

You want pre-crime...where you stop people from committing the gun crime before they break the law.

It is already against the law to use a gun to commit a crime........you moron.

Sure, how are they working?

Just fine....the problem happens when the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians let criminals out of jail and prison over and over again no matter how many felony gun violations they have.

 

[Rye Catcher]

To paraphrase Rousseau:

Man is born free, and everywhere parents fear for their children when guns are prevalent at schools, malls, movie theaters, concerts and restaurants.

To quote anonymous:

The idea that no solution exists never occurs to them, and in this lies their strength.

Guns will always be a wedge issue, along with abortion, one kills and the other one saves. The irony is not to be mistaken. Contraception's can cure the latter and yet four small words will kill innocents until reason supersedes the obsession, and even fetish for guns by those who oppose all gun regulations.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Because we all know the world was crime free before the first gun.
I put my guns in a corner in front of me so I can keep on eye on them in case they get any criminal ideas.

Biden Feels Rise In Crime Is A Result Of Gun Violence, Psaki Says

Jen Psaki attributed the country's rising crime to gun violence ahead of President Joe Biden's plans to speak about his crime prevention strategy.

dailycaller.com

Those damn guns, always sneaking out of the house at night and causing mayhem while their handlers sleep.

 

[jc456]

To paraphrase Rousseau:

Man is born free, and everywhere parents fear for their children when guns are prevalent at schools, malls, movie theaters, concerts and restaurants.

To quote anonymous:

The idea that no solution exists never occurs to them, and in this lies their strength.

Guns will always be a wedge issue, along with abortion, one kills and the other one saves. The irony is not to be mistaken. Contraception's can cure the latter and yet four small words will kill innocents until reason supersedes the obsession, and even fetish for guns by those who oppose all gun regulations.

Point?