Biden and the Dems are harming the hard-working middle class

[Lisa558]

General point to others: this country is doomed if more than 30% of voters are brainwashed by the liberal media, such as we see with Rightwinger, and adapt their style of mocking and/or silencing all dissenters who point out the obvious or ask questions they cannot answer.

With that in mind, can someone answer why the self-admitted Marxists who formed Black Lives Matter have as a goal to disrupt the very family structure (an intact family unit) that is most associated with successful outcomes?

 

[rightwinger]

OK….I see you have no defense for my point. That is how you brainwashed liberals are going to allow for our country to go socialist - mock those who point it out.

Q: Why did the self-admitted Marxists who founded BLM have as a goal to disrupt the very thing that would help black lives?

(And are you going to deny that the American-hating blacks who started the terrors group admitted they were Marxists?)

I will take your posts seriously once you have apologized to every Liberal you called a Commie


Now, repeat after me

Liberals want to help those who need help. Helping people is not Communism

 

[Lisa558]

I will take your posts seriously once you have apologized to every Liberal you called a Commie


Now, repeat after me

Liberals want to help those who need help. Helping people is not Communism

You need to repeat after me:

I understand that ”Helping those who need help” comes at the expense of middle income people who cannot afford the price. Thus, those who need help must pitch In to help themselves by learning a useful trade, which is paid for by Grants, instead of expecting the middle class to skimp on groceries due to “helping out” policies.

 

[rightwinger]

You need to repeat after me:

I understand that ”Helping those who need help” comes at the expense of middle income people who cannot afford the price. Thus, those who need help must pitch In to help themselves by learning a useful trade, which is paid for by Grants, instead of expecting the middle class to skimp on groceries due to “helping out” policies.

Sad how you twist the facts to blame the poor for a struggling middle class.

A basic tactic of the super wealthy.
It is not the fault of the wealthy that you pay so much in taxes…..Blame the poor

 

[DBA]

That is all you can do when you have no argument. It is the rich that are stealing. They can buy members of Congress to prevent any tax increases which they can well afford.

Careful, Democrats get more than Republicans. You might want to think that through a bit. There is a reason why it is Biden that is pushing for the rise in the SALT deduction and Trump capped it at 10k.

 

[Mr Natural]

You need to repeat after me:

I understand that ”Helping those who need help” comes at the expense of middle income people who cannot afford the price. Thus, those who need help must pitch In to help themselves by learning a useful trade, which is paid for by Grants, instead of expecting the middle class to skimp on groceries due to “helping out” policies.

What do you figure your out of pocket is for "helping" the poor?

 

[Lisa558]

Sad how you twist the facts to blame the poor for a struggling middle class.

A basic tactic of the super wealthy.
It is not the fault of the wealthy that you pay so much in taxes…..Blame the poor

The middle class is struggling more NOW because of the leftist policies. And who says I’m talking about taxes? I am talking about the prices at the gas station and grocery station - middle class America is hurting, and Biden wants to push through more inflation! The middle class hasn’t been enough.

The so-called “poor” need to sign up for some local classes, paid for by other people’s taxes, and learn a skill with some value. THAT is how you help. Not just enable them to sit at home, taking more handouts.

 

[Lisa558]

What do you figure your out of pocket is for "helping" the poor?

Could be in the tens of thousands, as Biden’s “helping poor people” policies drive inflation, and result in the Fed having to raise rates, and then the retirement funds of responsible middle class people crater.

 

[Mr Natural]

Could be in the tens of thousands, as Biden’s “helping poor people” policies drive inflation, and result in the Fed having to raise rates, and then the retirement funds of responsible middle class people crater.

You personally are paying tens of thousands?

 

[Oldestyle]

YES.
One, because countries aren't flooding their economies with $$$.
Two, it's supply and demand that is creating inflation this time.
Three, worldwide production is down.
Four, it takes time to get production going to normal levels.

" Flooding an economy with money almost always leads to inflation".
YES, it does, if unbalanced with supply and production.

You totally ducked my question, Smokin! (No surprise of course!) Let's try again!

In a situation where supply is limited (for whatever reason!) does it make any sense at all to keep pumping Trillions of dollars into the system? You KNOW that more money chasing fewer products is going to cause the cost of those products to go up! Biden's economic policies are making a bad situation far worse than it ever should have been!

 

[rightwinger]

The middle class is struggling more NOW because of the leftist policies. And who says I’m talking about taxes? I am talking about the prices at the gas station and grocery station - middle class America is hurting, and Biden wants to push through more inflation! The middle class hasn’t been enough.

The so-called “poor” need to sign up for some local classes, paid for by other people’s taxes, and learn a skill with some value. THAT is how you help. Not just enable them to sit at home, taking more handouts.

The middle class is struggling because we sold our soul to Supply Side Economics a generation ago

The claim was that putting less of a burden on the wealthy would trickle down with more jobs and higher pay for the working class. Instead, they just kept the money

Now, the working class sees stagnant wages, fewer benefits and are expected to pay more of the social burden.

But you are right……BLAME THE POOR

 

[Lisa558]

You personally are paying tens of thousands?

Duh. It’s so exhausting sometimes to talk with ignorant liberals.

Yes, I personally am losing tens of thousands due to Biden’s inflation, and the need for the Fed to raise rates. That in turn hurts the stock market.

 

[DBA]

Sad how you twist the facts to blame the poor for a struggling middle class.

A basic tactic of the super wealthy.
It is not the fault of the wealthy that you pay so much in taxes…..Blame the poor

Right, it is not the fault of the wealthy. The wealthy pay the overwhelming majority of the taxes in the country by both amount and percentage. Nobody is against helping the poor, but we are against giving handouts and providing everthing for free without an expectation of something in return. That is an unsustainable model.

Lefties need to buck up and get that 30 year old out of their basement. The way to do that is to incentivize them by NOT giving them everything they need and even providing them things they want.

How many of the non-working poor who already have all their bills paid by the government do you think saved their stimulus money so they could use it for an endeavor that would increase their likelihood of getting off of assistnace vs those that went out and bought a new iPhone and flat-screen TV?

 

[Oldestyle]

Darn, republicans didn't have an issue when Trump pumped $2 trillion into the US economy or his treasury pumping trillions into it.

March 12 2020
Wall Street briefly pared its losses on Thursday as investors reacted to the Federal Reserve’s announcement that it would dramatically increase liquidity by injecting as much as $1.5 trillion into the economy with an unprecedented series of asset purchases.

April 9 2020
The Federal Reserve announced on Thursday that it will inject another $2.3 trillion to prop up the American economy through a series of unprecedented emergency initiatives that will extend its reach to small and midsize businesses, as well as state and municipal governments.

June 16 2020
Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said last week declared that another $1-trillion will be created out of government debt and pumped into the economy.

There were soon thereafter, product shortages.

July 16 2020
First, there was the toilet paper shortage, then the ground beef and chicken shortage. Now we’ve entered the days of coin, lumber, paper towels, and appliance shortages.

Giant Eagle says the soft drink companies are focusing on their core brands because the aluminum can industry can’t keep up with demand. With so many people at home, the consumption of those drinks is up more than 30 percent.

So manufacturers are having to choose what they can. There are signs in the store explaining products like Pepsi Max are temporarily in short supply, and other products like Dr. Pepper Cherry and Diet A&W Rootbeer are obvious by their absence.

People being at home is also taking its toll on the appliance business. With consumers stocking up to minimize trips to the store, more people want that basement refrigerator or a stand-alone freezer.

Good luck finding a freezer.

Biden does it and republicans have a hissy fit.

Care to attribute your source material on all of that, Smokin?

 

[Lisa558]

The middle class is struggling because we sold our soul to Supply Side Economics a generation ago

The claim was that putting less of a burden on the wealthy would trickle down with more jobs and higher pay for the working class. Instead, they just kept the money

Now, the working class sees stagnant wages, fewer benefits and are expected to pay more of the social burden.

But you are right……BLAME THE POOR

I blame the policies that encourage the poor to stay poor, and the liberals like you who support that. Do you really think poor people are too stupid to take some vocational classes?

 

[DBA]

What do you figure your out of pocket is for "helping" the poor?

Well into the tens of thousands per year for me.

 

[Mr Natural]

The middle class is struggling because we sold our soul to Supply Side Economics a generation ago

The claim was that putting less of a burden on the wealthy would trickle down with more jobs and higher pay for the working class. Instead, they just kept the money

Now, the working class sees stagnant wages, fewer benefits and are expected to pay more of the social burden.

But you are right……BLAME THE POOR

St Reagans Tax Reform Act of 1986 was the kickoff to the downward slide of the middle class. It put millionaires (now billionaires, thank you Ron) into the same tax bracket as much lower paid workers.

 

[Lisa558]

Right, it is not the fault of the wealthy. The wealthy pay the overwhelming majority of the taxes in the country by both amount and percentage. Nobody is against helping the poor, but we are against giving handouts and providing everthing for free without an expectation of something in return. That is an unsustainable model.

Lefties need to buck up and get that 30 year old out of their basement. The way to do that is to incentivize them by NOT giving them everything they need and even providing them things they want.

How many of the non-working poor who already have all their bills paid by the government do you think saved their stimulus money so they could use it for an endeavor that would increase their likelihood of getting off of assistnace vs those that went out and bought a new iPhone and flat-screen TV?

Some poor woman who lives in the homeless shelter near me asked if I could drive her to the Target so she could buy more minutes for her smartphone! She had a more expensive model than I have.

Sorry, but people living in homeless shelters, paid for by other people, where they not only get a roof over their heads but free breakfast and free dinner (they have to leave in mid-day, unless it’s freezing) have no business buying an expensive Smartphone!

 

[Mr Natural]

I blame the policies that encourage the poor to stay poor, and the liberals like you who support that. Do you really think poor people are too stupid to take some vocational classes?

Are you a billionaire? Why not? Are you too stupid to be a billionaire?

 

[Indeependent]

Could be in the tens of thousands, as Biden’s “helping poor people” policies drive inflation, and result in the Fed having to raise rates, and then the retirement funds of responsible middle class people crater.

Posting actuals facts causes LibBots to get headaches.