Barry Goldwater's Grandaughter: I'm supporting Obama

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I know you right wingers will get upset that I'm posting a HuffPost article, but it's a column written by CC Goldwater, not one of their Leftist spin articles.

CC Goldwater: Why McCain Has Lost Our Vote

Why McCain Has Lost Our Vote

Being Barry Goldwater's granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state's senator, John McCain. I am still struck by certain 'dyed in the wool' Republicans who are on the fence this election, as it seems like a no-brainer to me.

Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year. We believe strongly in what our grandfather stood for: honesty, integrity, and personal freedom, free from political maneuvering and fear tactics. I learned a lot about my grandfather while producing the documentary, Mr. Conservative Goldwater on Goldwater. Our generation of Goldwaters expects government to provide for constitutional protections. We reject the constant intrusion into our personal lives, along with other crucial policy issues of the McCain/Palin ticket.

My grandfather (Paka) would never suggest denying a woman's right to choose. My grandmother co-founded Planned Parenthood in Arizona in the 1930's, a cause my grandfather supported. I'm not sure about how he would feel about marriage rights based on same-sex orientation. I think he would feel that love and respect for ones privacy is what matters most and not the intolerance and poor judgment displayed by McCain over the years. Paka respected our civil liberties and passed on the message that that we should conduct our lives standing up for the basic freedoms we hold so dear.

For a while, there were several candidates who aligned themselves with the Goldwater version of Conservative thought. My grandfather had undying respect for the U.S. Constitution, and an understanding of its true meanings.

There always have been a glimmer of hope that someday, someone would "race through the gate" full steam in Goldwater style. Unfortunately, this hasn't happened, and the Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear. Nothing about McCain, except for maybe a uniform, compares to the same ideology of what Goldwater stood for as a politician. The McCain/Palin plan is to appear diverse and inclusive, using women and minorities to push an agenda that makes us all financially vulnerable, fearful, and less safe.

When you see the candidate's in political ads, you can't help but be reminded of the 1964 presidential campaign of Johnson/Goldwater, the 'origin of spin', that twists the truth and obscures what really matters. Nothing about the Republican ticket offers the hope America needs to regain it's standing in the world, that's why we're going to support Barack Obama. I think that Obama has shown his ability and integrity.

After the last eight years, there's a lot of clean up do. Roll up your sleeves, Senators Obama and Biden, and we Goldwaters will roll ours up with you.
 
Yeah, and?

Don't you guys see all these core conservatives moving to the left and voting for Obama?

There's a story.

There was a great flood one day and a man climbed to the roof of his home. A helicopter came by and the pilot told the man to grab the ladder. "No thanks, I'm waiting for God to save me." The helicopter went off. 5 minutes later as the water kept rising, a guy in a boat came by "Jump in the boat!" The guy said, "No thank you, I'm waiting for God to save me." The water rose and the man drowned. In heaven he angirly marches up to God questioning why God didn't save him. God replied, "What do you think the helicopter and the boat were for?"

Cornbread, how many people that refused to jump from the sinking Titanic survived? Answer? Zero. If you refuse to jump a sinking ship, expect to drown.
 
Don't you guys see all these core conservatives moving to the left and voting for Obama?

There's a story.

There was a great flood one day and a man climbed to the roof of his home. A helicopter came by and the pilot told the man to grab the ladder. "No thanks, I'm waiting for God to save me." The helicopter went off. 5 minutes later as the water kept rising, a guy in a boat came by "Jump in the boat!" The guy said, "No thank you, I'm waiting for God to save me." The water rose and the man drowned. In heaven he angirly marches up to God questioning why God didn't save him. God replied, "What do you think the helicopter and the boat were for?"

Cornbread, how many people that refused to jump from the sinking Titanic survived? Answer? Zero. If you refuse to jump a sinking ship, expect to drown.

Obama is not the Core conservative that Goldwater would have voted for. I like CC Goldwater, but just because she Is my political hero's granddaughter, it does make her a core conservative. Hell, Reagan's kids are all liberals, all except his adopted son.

My point was that with the two given candidates and the extensive research that I have done on Goldwater, he would have either sat this one out or voted for Barr, but he would not have voted for Obama.
 
Obama is not the Core conservative that Goldwater would have voted for. I like CC Goldwater, but just because she Is my political hero's granddaughter, it does make her a core conservative. Hell, Reagan's kids are all liberals, all except his adopted son.

My point was that with the two given candidates and the extensive research that I have done on Goldwater, he would have either sat this one out or voted for Barr, but he would not have voted for Obama.

Would he have voted for McCain?
 
My point was that with the two given candidates and the extensive research that I have done on Goldwater, he would have either sat this one out or voted for Barr, but he would not have voted for Obama.

Aboslutely.

Barry Goldwater Jr. endorsed Ron Paul during the primaries, just for the record.
 
Don't you guys see all these core conservatives moving to the left and voting for Obama?

There's a story.

There was a great flood one day and a man climbed to the roof of his home. A helicopter came by and the pilot told the man to grab the ladder. "No thanks, I'm waiting for God to save me." The helicopter went off. 5 minutes later as the water kept rising, a guy in a boat came by "Jump in the boat!" The guy said, "No thank you, I'm waiting for God to save me." The water rose and the man drowned. In heaven he angirly marches up to God questioning why God didn't save him. God replied, "What do you think the helicopter and the boat were for?"

Cornbread, how many people that refused to jump from the sinking Titanic survived? Answer? Zero. If you refuse to jump a sinking ship, expect to drown.


CC Goldwater is not Barry Goldwater. Also, later in life Goldwater became much more liberal than he was when he started out, didn't he? CC Goldwater is her own person and entitled to her own opinions. Good for her that she's voting for Obama. If he wins she'll get exactly the gov't that she deserves.


BTW, nice joke. I've heard it many times to emphasis the need for accepting Jesus into one's heart. Weird that you use to emphasis the "need" to support Obama. Smacks of more "Messiah" comparrison. I'm just saying...
 
CC Goldwater is not Barry Goldwater. Also, later in life Goldwater became much more liberal than he was when he started out, didn't he? CC Goldwater is her own person and entitled to her own opinions. Good for her that she's voting for Obama. If he wins she'll get exactly the gov't that she deserves.


BTW, nice joke. I've heard it many times to emphasis the need for accepting Jesus into one's heart. Weird that you use to emphasis the "need" to support Obama. Smacks of more "Messiah" comparrison. I'm just saying...

Goldwater became more liberatarian, not liberal. Big difference.
 
CC Goldwater is not Barry Goldwater. Also, later in life Goldwater became much more liberal than he was when he started out, didn't he? CC Goldwater is her own person and entitled to her own opinions. Good for her that she's voting for Obama. If he wins she'll get exactly the gov't that she deserves.


BTW, nice joke. I've heard it many times to emphasis the need for accepting Jesus into one's heart. Weird that you use to emphasis the "need" to support Obama. Smacks of more "Messiah" comparrison. I'm just saying...
And Barry was pro choice from the beginning!
 
and yet, rather than sit this one out, you'll cast a vote for McCain just to vote against Obama. That's pretty sad IMO

I'm not casting my vote just to vote against Obama. It is part of the reason, but not all.

Obama offers nothing for me. His proposals are quasi socialist and he has not taken one postion that I like. McCain on the ther hand has not thrilled me, but I do see glimpses of the McCain that I knew. I am holding out that once elected the McCain that we all know and love will come to the surface. If you don't this, then I don't care. It's my vote and I'll use it how i see fit. :razz:
 
And Barry was pro choice from the beginning!

Yes he was, that is greatest part of his consevatism. It took a hijacking of the GOP by the Religious Right, ie Reagan and Robertson to get that position out of him. Goldwater never left the GOP, the Gop left him. (to paraphrase Reagan.)
 
I know you right wingers will get upset that I'm posting a HuffPost article, but it's a column written by CC Goldwater, not one of their Leftist spin articles.

CC Goldwater: Why McCain Has Lost Our Vote

Why McCain Has Lost Our Vote

Being Barry Goldwater's granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state's senator, John McCain. I am still struck by certain 'dyed in the wool' Republicans who are on the fence this election, as it seems like a no-brainer to me.

Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year. We believe strongly in what our grandfather stood for: honesty, integrity, and personal freedom, free from political maneuvering and fear tactics. I learned a lot about my grandfather while producing the documentary, Mr. Conservative Goldwater on Goldwater. Our generation of Goldwaters expects government to provide for constitutional protections. We reject the constant intrusion into our personal lives, along with other crucial policy issues of the McCain/Palin ticket.

My grandfather (Paka) would never suggest denying a woman's right to choose. My grandmother co-founded Planned Parenthood in Arizona in the 1930's, a cause my grandfather supported. I'm not sure about how he would feel about marriage rights based on same-sex orientation. I think he would feel that love and respect for ones privacy is what matters most and not the intolerance and poor judgment displayed by McCain over the years. Paka respected our civil liberties and passed on the message that that we should conduct our lives standing up for the basic freedoms we hold so dear.

For a while, there were several candidates who aligned themselves with the Goldwater version of Conservative thought. My grandfather had undying respect for the U.S. Constitution, and an understanding of its true meanings.

There always have been a glimmer of hope that someday, someone would "race through the gate" full steam in Goldwater style. Unfortunately, this hasn't happened, and the Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear. Nothing about McCain, except for maybe a uniform, compares to the same ideology of what Goldwater stood for as a politician. The McCain/Palin plan is to appear diverse and inclusive, using women and minorities to push an agenda that makes us all financially vulnerable, fearful, and less safe.

When you see the candidate's in political ads, you can't help but be reminded of the 1964 presidential campaign of Johnson/Goldwater, the 'origin of spin', that twists the truth and obscures what really matters. Nothing about the Republican ticket offers the hope America needs to regain it's standing in the world, that's why we're going to support Barack Obama. I think that Obama has shown his ability and integrity.

After the last eight years, there's a lot of clean up do. Roll up your sleeves, Senators Obama and Biden, and we Goldwaters will roll ours up with you.

wow. this endorsement ranks right up there with.....



Ben Affleck's. who gives a fuck?
 
Yes he was, that is greatest part of his consevatism. It took a hijacking of the GOP by the Religious Right, ie Reagan and Robertson to get that position out of him. Goldwater never left the GOP, the Gop left him. (to paraphrase Reagan.)
Republican always talk about the government telling them what to do and that is exactly what they want to do when it comes to abortion. And I think he would have supported Obama!

And as for Reagan I don't know, there was a point in the 80's where he wasn't to happy with McCain and I know for sure Reagan would not have supported "W" he didn't think he would ever amount to anything!
 
I'm not casting my vote just to vote against Obama. It is part of the reason, but not all.

Obama offers nothing for me. His proposals are quasi socialist and he has not taken one postion that I like. McCain on the ther hand has not thrilled me, but I do see glimpses of the McCain that I knew. I am holding out that once elected the McCain that we all know and love will come to the surface. If you don't this, then I don't care. It's my vote and I'll use it how i see fit. :razz:
If he does get elected lets hope the old McCain comes out and maybe replaces his VP. There seemed to be some tension between the two last night!
 
Republican always talk about the government telling them what to do and that is exactly what they want to do when it comes to abortion. And I think he would have supported Obama!

And as for Reagan I don't know, there was a point in the 80's where he wasn't to happy with McCain and I know for sure Reagan would not have supported "W" he didn't think he would ever amount to anything!

Goldwater would have never voted for Obama. No way in hell. Politics was Goldwaters biggest concern, not social issues. Goldwater felt social issues such as Abortion and any debate concerning homos had no place in politics.

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” Barry Goldwater
 

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