Why do posters still try to defend Biden's record, and attack Trump? (Poll)

[JoeB131]

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I've never seen someone so happy to have screwed the country.

Buyer's remorse is already setting in.

 

[Oddball]

I've never seen someone so happy to have screwed the country.

Buyer's remorse is already setting in.

Must suck to be such a dour, broom-up-the-ass Marxist loser.

I'd feel bad for you, if I didn't know that you are only torturing yourself...That fact amuses me to no end.

 

[JoeB131]

Must suck to be such a dour, broom-up-the-ass Marxist loser.

I'd feel bad for you, if I didn't know that you are only torturing yourself...That fact amuses me to no end.

Not at all, I'll personally be fine.

But I'm also a patriot who loves his country. Watching it devolve like this into an orgy of misplaced hate is sad.

The solace I take is that I KNOW Trump will fuck things up because he fucks everything up.

And no amount of spin will be able to cover it up.

Why you guys learned no lessons from 2020 is baffling.

 

[Oddball]

Not at all, I'll personally be fine.

But I'm also a patriot who loves his country. Watching it devolve like this into an orgy of misplaced hate is sad.

The solace I take is that I KNOW Trump will fuck things up because he fucks everything up.

And no amount of spin will be able to cover it up.

Why you guys learned no lessons from 2020 is baffling.

No, you are a pathetic little Marxist clown, who projects his own blind hatred like nobody's business.

A loser's loser.

 

[kyzr]

Again, sometimes you stick with a policy because it's the right thing to do. Take the Iraq War. Democrats were running against it in 2004, and they lost (barely) because Kerry was not exactly the best vessel to express that position (he voted for the initial war authorization, some of the shit he did when he returned from Vietnam was terrible.). By 2006, though, the tide had turned, and Democrats took both houses of Congress because Bush's War had become so unpopular. By 2008, Democrats utterly crushed the Republicans on that issue.

When people see the cruelty of Trump's policies and realize that cruelty doesn't make their lives any better, it won't be such a winner for you.

Oh, they will be bad. As I stated in another thread, no president has a second term that is better than his first. Trump is already making one of the key mistakes presidents make in second terms, appointing loyalists instead of specialists. Think "Heckava Job" Brownie at FEMA.

Nobody lost 350K kids. Voters were barely upset about inflation. That will get worse under Trump with his tariffs and deporting the people who pick the lettuce. The only way you get to millions deported by Obama and Bush is by counting people returned at the border.
Also, Biden didn't let 12 million stay. most of them were returned. The number allowed to stay under Biden was 2.5 million, most of them having pretty valid asylum claims. The rest were sent back. Now, this is an area where Biden failed to make his own case, because he didn't want to alienate Hispanics by telling them how many he was deporting. This was grave political malpractice.

1. We weren't discussing democrat policies from 2000. You lost in 2024, and still are not listening to voters.

2. My point is that deporting millions of illegals is not cruel, it is the norm, it is the better policy. Open borders and giving millions of migrants free food and free housing while grocery prices are skyrocketing loses votes. Deporting millions like Clinton and Obama is a winner.

3. Your prediction of a Trump failure is noted. We will see over the next 4-years. Brownie had to deal with a CAT-5 Katrina hitting New Orleans, he did nothing wrong technically, unlike Biden's recent response of ignoring homes with Trump signs. Those people got nothing while migrants get housed free in luxury hotels and get free food.

4. Yep, Biden lost them. No clue where they are.

MSN

Biden-Harris admin loses track of 320,000 migrant children — with untold numbers at risk of sex trafficking and forced labor​

"The Biden-Harris administration has lost track of more than 320,000 migrant children who crossed the border without parents, according to a shocking new report. Untold numbers of the children — who were released into the US to “qualified sponsors” — are now at risk of sex trafficking, forced labor and other forms of exploitation, a Homeland Security Inspector General’s report released Monday said."

Biden let way more than 2.5m illegals into the US, hell, CBP said there were 2m "got-aways" during Biden.

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"Likewise, according to Poynter, the number of illegal encounters that have occurred during the Biden-Harris administration at the U.S. border is around 10 million, but the number increases to 11.6 million when accounting for “got-aways.”

 

[j-mac]

Not at all, I'll personally be fine.

But I'm also a patriot who loves his country. Watching it devolve like this into an orgy of misplaced hate is sad.

The solace I take is that I KNOW Trump will fuck things up because he fucks everything up.

And no amount of spin will be able to cover it up.

Why you guys learned no lessons from 2020 is baffling.

Oh, we learned lessons this whole time...

1. We learned that liberal progressives are lying, gaslighting, lightweights that implode under truth...

2. We learned that liberal progressives absolutely HATE America as it was founded....

3. We learned that liberal progressives want to tear down society in a Cloward, Piven manner...

4. We learned that liberal progressives HATE ideas, largely because they are devoid of independent thinking....

5. We learned that liberal progressives trust in the no. 1 tenant is progressivism, "I know you are, but what am I?"

6. We learned that liberal progressives HATE anyone that strays from their dogma, but love when Republican's do....

7. And we've learned that liberal progressives are tantrum prone children, that should NEVER be around the levers of power again...

 

[Oddball]

Oh, we learned lessons this whole time...

1. We learned that liberal progressives are lying, gaslighting, lightweights that implode under truth...

2. We learned that liberal progressives absolutely HATE America as it was founded....

3. We learned that liberal progressives want to tear down society in a Cloward, Piven manner...

4. We learned that liberal progressives HATE ideas, largely because they are devoid of independent thinking....

5. We learned that liberal progressives trust in the no. 1 tenant is progressivism, "I know you are, but what am I?"

6. We learned that liberal progressives HATE anyone that strays from their dogma, but love when Republican's do....

7. And we've learned that liberal progressives are tantrum prone children, that should NEVER be around the levers of power again...

8. They will squeal like terrified little girls when the very same standards and actions they apply to everyone else are turned back upon them.

 

[skews13]

I'm always surprised when I see democrat posters here still toeing the party line instead of accepting the reality of the 2024 election and the rejection by the voters of the stupid and failed democrat policies, talking points, and ad nauseam criticisms of Trump.

Posting here is a lot like "deja vu all over again", all over again, and all over again. Never accepting the truth. Here is reality, deal with it:

1. Bragg's and Merchan's LAWFARE against Trump, aka the 34 felonies, will never stand on appeal.
2. Letitia's and Engeron's $500,000,000 fine for a bookkeeping error will not stand, even the NY appeals court said comments about it.
3. Smith wasn't even appointed legally, so his two cases (classified documents & J6) were going nowhere.
4. Assassin #1, Crooks was a SS setup from the start, Trump needs to let Kash get to the bottom of it.
5. Assassin #2, Routh, with 18 cell phones, and a lot of unexplained air travel, also needs a thorough investigation
6. Trump's nominees for positions will probably all be approved, even though democrats throw hissy-fits.
7. Trump's term will begin with hundreds of EOs reversing Biden's moronic policies.
8. Elon and Vivek will make recommendations to cut spending, democrats should embrace the responsible spending cuts
9. Budgets will not be by CRs any more, but by individual actual negotiated Bills
10. There will be cuts to and elimination of government agencies to hopefully cut $2-trillion from the 2024 Budget
11. If Republicans can't pass the necessary legislation, then they are done for a long, long time

I'm Angry That I Have To Fear For The Future Of Democracy In This Country....Because Of Trump

We can't have a normal election between two candidates who respect the Constitution and the peaceful transfer of power. It just fucking pisses me off. Trump should be rotting in jail right now, not running for President.

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Bidens record doesn't need defending. When you have a successful Presidency, which Biden has. That doesn't require defending.

On the other hand. There was no defending Trumps first failed, and disastrous administration, and the record on that also speaks for itself.

The second term will also reflect that fact.

 

[Oddball]

Bidens record doesn't need defending. When you have a successful Presidency, which Biden has. That doesn't require defending.

So "successful" that his veep proxy got the living shit kicked out of her in the last election.

 

[j-mac]

Bidens record doesn't need defending. When you have a successful Presidency, which Biden has. That doesn't require defending.

On the other hand. There was no defending Trumps first failed, and disastrous administration, and the record on that also speaks for itself.

The second term will also reflect that fact.

I think if libs don't get their shit together, and stop this attempted gaslighting, and inability to accept the truth, people are going to start wondering if Dems are mentally sick...

 

[Oddball]

I think if libs don't get their shit together, and stop this attempted gaslighting, and inability to accept the truth, people are going to start wondering if Dems are mentally sick...

You can stop wondering...They are.

 

[kyzr]

Bidens record doesn't need defending. When you have a successful Presidency, which Biden has. That doesn't require defending.
On the other hand. There was no defending Trumps first failed, and disastrous administration, and the record on that also speaks for itself.
The second term will also reflect that fact.

How many pardons is Biden giving his Crime Family members?
A 75% wrong-track number says that Biden's term is a disaster.
If Biden was a success, his VP, Kamala would have won to keep going, but she lost in a landslide, she got demolished.
Trump got 11,000,000 more votes in 2020 than he got in 2016, that is a vote of support.
The 2024 election said that voters want more Trump.

How does it feel to always be wrong? (ANS: Like Joe Biden)

 

[BluesLegend]

So "successful" that his veep proxy got the living shit kicked out of her in the last election.

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Dems got CRUSHED by their mortal enemy. Humiliated. Rejected. I celebrated their pain and suffering.

 

[JoeB131]

No, you are a pathetic little Marxist clown, who projects his own blind hatred like nobody's business.

A loser's loser.

Come on, guy, you know you fucked up. Man up and own it.

 

[JoeB131]

How many pardons is Biden giving his Crime Family members?

Just the one. but math isn't your strong suit.

A 75% wrong-track number says that Biden's term is a disaster.

Except the wrong track number has been north of 65% since the Aughts.

If Biden was a success, his VP, Kamala would have won to keep going, but she lost in a landslide, she got demolished.

Not really. in fact, VP's running lose more often than they win. Just ask Nixon, Humphry, Mondale, Gore, and now Kamala.

 

[alang1216]

I'm always surprised when I see democrat posters here still toeing the party line instead of accepting the reality of the 2024 election and the rejection by the voters of the stupid and failed democrat policies, talking points, and ad nauseam criticisms of Trump.

Posting here is a lot like "deja vu all over again", all over again, and all over again. Never accepting the truth. Here is reality, deal with it:

1. Bragg's and Merchan's LAWFARE against Trump, aka the 34 felonies, will never stand on appeal.
2. Letitia's and Engeron's $500,000,000 fine for a bookkeeping error will not stand, even the NY appeals court said comments about it.
3. Smith wasn't even appointed legally, so his two cases (classified documents & J6) were going nowhere.
4. Assassin #1, Crooks was a SS setup from the start, Trump needs to let Kash get to the bottom of it.
5. Assassin #2, Routh, with 18 cell phones, and a lot of unexplained air travel, also needs a thorough investigation
6. Trump's nominees for positions will probably all be approved, even though democrats throw hissy-fits.
7. Trump's term will begin with hundreds of EOs reversing Biden's moronic policies.
8. Elon and Vivek will make recommendations to cut spending, democrats should embrace the responsible spending cuts
9. Budgets will not be by CRs any more, but by individual actual negotiated Bills
10. There will be cuts to and elimination of government agencies to hopefully cut $2-trillion from the 2024 Budget
11. If Republicans can't pass the necessary legislation, then they are done for a long, long time

I'm Angry That I Have To Fear For The Future Of Democracy In This Country....Because Of Trump

We can't have a normal election between two candidates who respect the Constitution and the peaceful transfer of power. It just fucking pisses me off. Trump should be rotting in jail right now, not running for President.

www.usmessageboard.com

I think if you seriously wanted an answer you'd ask those that still reject Trump why they do it. Asking Trump supporters to speculate on why others do what they do is silly.

 

[Contumacious]

I'm always surprised when I see democrat posters here still toeing the party line instead of accepting the reality of the 2024 election and the rejection by the voters of the stupid and failed democrat policies, talking points, and ad nauseam criticisms of Trump.

Posting here is a lot like "deja vu all over again", all over again, and all over again. Never accepting the truth. Here is reality, deal with it:

1. Bragg's and Merchan's LAWFARE against Trump, aka the 34 felonies, will never stand on appeal.
2. Letitia's and Engeron's $500,000,000 fine for a bookkeeping error will not stand, even the NY appeals court said comments about it.
3. Smith wasn't even appointed legally, so his two cases (classified documents & J6) were going nowhere.
4. Assassin #1, Crooks was a SS setup from the start, Trump needs to let Kash get to the bottom of it.
5. Assassin #2, Routh, with 18 cell phones, and a lot of unexplained air travel, also needs a thorough investigation
6. Trump's nominees for positions will probably all be approved, even though democrats throw hissy-fits.
7. Trump's term will begin with hundreds of EOs reversing Biden's moronic policies.
8. Elon and Vivek will make recommendations to cut spending, democrats should embrace the responsible spending cuts
9. Budgets will not be by CRs any more, but by individual actual negotiated Bills
10. There will be cuts to and elimination of government agencies to hopefully cut $2-trillion from the 2024 Budget
11. If Republicans can't pass the necessary legislation, then they are done for a long, long time

I'm Angry That I Have To Fear For The Future Of Democracy In This Country....Because Of Trump

We can't have a normal election between two candidates who respect the Constitution and the peaceful transfer of power. It just fucking pisses me off. Trump should be rotting in jail right now, not running for President.

www.usmessageboard.com

In 1943 Libertarian Isabel Paterson, argued in her Magnus opum "The God of the Machine that government schools should be abolished because they were creating socialist zombies. She has been proven correct:

>>>>Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state. –Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)<<<<<<

 

[jwoodie]

how exactly do you plan to blame Democrats for the upcoming massive inflation, economic crash and and record-smashing deficits?

How exactly do you think that comparing historical facts to future prognostications constitutes logical debate?

 

[kyzr]

I think if you seriously wanted an answer you'd ask those that still reject Trump why they do it. Asking Trump supporters to speculate on why others do what they do is silly.

If you read the 1st sentence again it says what you want, not what you apparently think it says.

 

[kyzr]

In 1943 Libertarian Isabel Paterson, argued in her Magnus opum "The God of the Machine that government schools should be abolished because they were creating socialist zombies. She has been proven correct:

>>>>Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state. –Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)<<<<<<

LOL!! WHERE IS POLITICALCHIC WHEN YOU NEED HER?

My reply to your thoughtful post would not do it justice.
I went thru the parochial school system, so public schools all look like holding pens to me, run by teachers unions.
So my take is that vouchers are needed and they could be used for private, parochial, or Charter schools.