Average teachers pay vs average pay.

[Woodznutz]

Both of those are the result of wage suppression.

Update. Teacher pay is now $69,000.

 

[Woodznutz]

That's poverty pay....sickening.

Millions would kill for those wages.

 

[Woodznutz]

NOPE

Teachers earn 26.6% less than comparable college graduates

Teacher pay rises in 2023—but not enough to shrink pay gap with other college graduates

Despite a small improvement of 1.7% in teachers’ average weekly wages, the relative pay penalty between public school teachers and college graduates in other professions remains large.

www.epi.org

Average teacher age is 44. Average salary $69,000

Teacher Demographics and Statistics [2025]: Number Of Teachers In The US

How many Teachers are in US? More than 3,842,796. Learn more about 2025 demographics based on factors such as age, race, sex, salary and location.

www.zippia.com

 

[SweetSue92]

Update. Teacher pay is now $69,000.

You are comparing teachers to teenagers flipping burgers.

 

[SweetSue92]

Average teacher age is 44. Average salary $69,000

Teacher Demographics and Statistics [2025]: Number Of Teachers In The US

How many Teachers are in US? More than 3,842,796. Learn more about 2025 demographics based on factors such as age, race, sex, salary and location.

www.zippia.com

Yes, many if not most states had to raise pay because they can't get people to do the job. Sorry that hurts your feelings

 

[initforme]

Yes, many if not most states had to raise pay because they can't get people to do the job. Sorry that hurts your feelings

It's always a good thingvwhen employers have to compete huge huge huge to find employees

 

[Woodznutz]

Are you talking about high school graduates?

Are you saying those with Bachelor's Degree at LEAST should not earn more than those with a high school diploma?

What ARE you saying?

Teachers make slightly more than others with bachelor's degrees. The average teacher has a bachelor's degree.

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/income-by-education-level

 

[sparky]

Yes. Some kids have valid issues we need to address. Many students are funneled into gen ed classrooms and have NO business being there.

that went from 'some' to the majority of kids Sue

the mental health community is the fastest growing faction of health care in this country.

right along with an epidemic of mental health related issues throughout this country , most of which are doped up on the pharma garbage they push

they've been no help to your profession, stats prove that out

they've NO biz in any classroom.....

~S~

 

[Woodznutz]

Good luck getting a link. The link connects to his butt

Do yer own homework, Sue.

 

[SweetSue92]

Teachers make slightly more than others with bachelor's degrees. The average teacher has a bachelor's degree.

Most teachers have a Master, and some more.

 

[SweetSue92]

Do yer own homework, Sue.

I did. For example, the average babysitter in the US gets $25/hour, where as the average beginning TEACHER gets $30/hour. Babysitter: keep 2-4 kids alive.

Teacher: instruct 20-30 kids ALL day long and teach them to read, write, spell, do math, and occasionally potty train them.

 

[Woodznutz]

You are comparing teachers to teenagers flipping burgers.

Read on, get a clue.

 

[Woodznutz]

I did. For example, the average babysitter in the US gets $25/hour, where as the average beginning TEACHER gets $30/hour. Babysitter: keep 2-4 kids alive.

Teacher: instruct 20-30 kids ALL day long and teach them to read, write, spell, do math, and occasionally potty train them.

They can always quit teaching and spare themselves the misery. Oh wait! Many are.

Play the hand you're dealt, or fold.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I pay me and wife. Alabama.

This is employer plan with cost share.

Sorry for the delay, I had to get on an actual computer and I said I'd get back.

First of all Alabama is ranked 47th (lower) compared to Virginia 13th (higher). So cost of living in Virginia is higher than Alabama.

You say you pay $850 per month with employer cost share for Employee + Spouse, but didn't give the split percentage (which I asked for). So let's assume that we split the difference on average cost share based on national number (70-80%) and go with 75% as the employer share and you pay 25% as the employee. We'll also assume for comparison that you have all the bells and whistles (Gold Level Medical + Dental + Vision) in a PPO plan.

That means the total Premium is $3400 per month split between $850 you pay and $2550 paid by the employer.

Our similar plan runs $1145 a month and that is split 70% employer Paid and 30% employee paid.

Annualized that means our plan costs $13,740 a year for a Gold level Employee + Spouse plan and you say your plan costs $40,800 a year in a state that has a significantly lower cost of living.

Something isn't jiving. So there are a few possibilities:

• The original number cited was a typo (it happens)
• The original number citied wasn't a typo and you misremembered (it happens)
• The employer "share" is way outside the national average (meaning you are paying a significantly higher percentage of the total premium)
• Or if we were to rate plans as Gold, Silver, and Bronze you have an executive level Platinum plan that covers everything including wiping your ass after a stool sample. (<<-- the last part is intended to be humorous for those not aware).

Since you are in a lower cost of living state and your insurance is costing you (as part of your compensation) 3 times as much as plans in a higher cost of living state I'd suggest. Find out why your employer group plan is so expensive, why the employer is picking up such a low share (resulting in your portion being so high), or move to Virginia - We're hiring. You might also look into getting an outside plan on the individual market and not enroll in your employer plan. [DISCLAIMER: This is not benefit advice, you would need to research and make your own decision.]

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Plenty of college grads start in the low 50s.

Never said they didn't. I also said compare "other licensed professionals".

That is different than comparing "college grads".

WW

 

[Woodznutz]

Most teachers have a Master, and some more.

TEACHER EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT​

"The most common degree for teachers is bachelor's degree, with 64% of teachers earning that degree. The second and third most common degree levels are master's degree at 15% and associate degree at 10%."

Teacher Demographics and Statistics [2025]: Number Of Teachers In The US

How many Teachers are in US? More than 3,842,796. Learn more about 2025 demographics based on factors such as age, race, sex, salary and location.

www.zippia.com

 

[rightwinger]

Leftist tend to want to be teachers. So they can push agendas on kids.

So they tend to fill more spots than conservatives.

So yes we need to replace them. Good point

Red vs Blue Counties

Why would those Red Counties elect liberal Boards of Education?

 

[initforme]

The american way now is " please work hard", for less. Or a better one is "hey $25 per hour is a fine wage". It's unreal that people subscribe to that stuff. "Can you believe that high school kids is making $15 per hour? That's way too much". That's another funny one. Where does this backwards thinking come from?

 

[Woodznutz]

There are no teachers with a HS diploma only.

Actually 6 percent of teachers are HS grads only.

Teacher Demographics and Statistics [2025]: Number Of Teachers In The US

How many Teachers are in US? More than 3,842,796. Learn more about 2025 demographics based on factors such as age, race, sex, salary and location.

www.zippia.com

 

[rightwinger]

Actually 6 percent of teachers are HS grads only.

Teacher Demographics and Statistics [2025]: Number Of Teachers In The US

How many Teachers are in US? More than 3,842,796. Learn more about 2025 demographics based on factors such as age, race, sex, salary and location.

www.zippia.com

Probably ex Military or other life skills