2aguy
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FFS!Guns aren't banned in Australia.Excellent, thanks.You are a moron..... They have been banned for normal Australians....but criminals can get them easily. Are you this stupid in real life or only when you post.
Here....you dumb shit.....law abiding Australians are banned from owning just about all category of firearm..... and yet criminals get them easily....showing that gun control laws do not stop criminals from getting guns even on a big island...
Firearms-Control Legislation and Policy: Australia
- a federal ban on the importation of “all semi-automatic self-loading and pump action longarms, and all parts, including magazines, for such firearms, included in Licence Category D, and control of the importation of those firearms included in Licence Category C.” The sale, resale, transfer, ownership, manufacture, and use of such firearms would also be banned by the states and territories, other than in exceptional circumstances (relating to military or law enforcement purposes and occupational categories, depending on the category of the firearm);23]
- standard categories of firearms, including the two largely prohibited categories (C and D), which include certain semiautomatic and self-loading rifles and shotguns, and a restricted category for handguns (category H);24]
- a requirement for a separate permit for the acquisition of every firearm, with a twenty-eight-day waiting period applying to the issuing of such permits,25] and the establishment of a nationwide firearms registration system;26]
- a uniform requirement for all firearms sales to be conducted only by or through licensed firearms dealers, and certain minimum principles that would underpin rules relating to the recording of firearms transactions by dealers and right of inspection by police;27]
- restrictions on the quantity of ammunition that may be purchased in a given period and a requirement that dealers only sell ammunition for firearms for which the purchaser is licensed;28]
- ensuring that “personal protection” would not be regarded as a “genuine reason” for owning, possessing, or using a firearm under the laws of the states and territories;29]
- standardized classifications to define a “genuine reason” that an applicant must show for owning, possessing, or using a firearm, including reasons relating to sport shooting, recreational shooting/hunting, collecting, and occupational requirements (additional requirements of showing a genuine need for the particular type of firearm and securing related approvals would be added for firearms in categories B, C, D, and H);30]
- in addition to the demonstration of a “genuine reason,” other basic requirements would apply for the issuing of firearms licenses, specifically that the applicant must be aged eighteen years or over, be a “fit and proper person,” be able to prove his or her identity, and undertake adequate safety training31] (safety training courses would be subject to accreditation and be “comprehensive and standardised across Australia for all licence categories”);32]
- firearms licenses would be required to bear a photograph of the licensee, be endorsed with a category of firearm, include the holder’s address, be issued after a waiting period of not less than twenty-eight days, be issued for a period of no more than five years, and contain a reminder of safe storage responsibilities;33]
- licenses would only be issued subject to undertakings to comply with storage requirements and following an inspection by licensing authorities of the licensee’s storage facilities;34]
- minimum standards for the refusal or cancellation of licenses, including criminal convictions for violent offenses in the past five years, unsafe storage of firearms, failure to notify of a change of address, and “reliable evidence of a mental or physical condition which would render the applicant unsuitable for owning, possessing or using a firearm”;35] and
- the establishment of uniform standards for the security and storage of firearms, including a requirement that ammunition be stored in locked containers separate from any firearms. The minimum standards for category C, D, and H firearms would include “storage in a locked, steel safe with a thickness to ensure it is not easily penetrable, bolted to the structure of a building.”36]
Now...please show me where it says that firearms are banned in Australia...you know just to save me reading it all.
It seems to me that you can apply for a permit to own a firearm and, assuming that you meet all the requirements you can buy your gun.
Some types of firearm have more stringent requirements than others, it's true, but fireams aren't banned as I assume that you've now realised.
If you can't own a gun for self defense, and can only have a gun as a member of a shooting team, guns are banned. And no, "stringent" requirements are not access to guns when you can't buy a hand gun, and you can only get a non-semi automatic shotgun with permission from the government...
They were banned and confiscated by the Australian government and getting one as an average citizen for self defense is impossible.....so yes, guns are banned in Australia....
Making the laws so extreme that a woman can't buy a hand gun for self defense is a ban....sorry, you are just wrong.
And criminals get the guns they want no matter what hoops normal people have to jump through...they don't jump through those hoops...
You don't have to be in a shooting group to own one.
You're simply wrong...give it up.
Tell us how a woman can get a hand gun for self defense in Australia......she can't...self defense is not a genuine reason for owning a gun.......a homeowner can't get a pump action shotgun for home defense, since self defense is not a genuine reason to own a gun in Australia...
Guns for normal people are banned..... criminals get them easily.
Give it up!
Guns are not banned in Australia!
You can't buy them in a KMart like the US.
You can't give them away as raffle prizes for the local pre-school.
You have to apply for a permit, demonstrate that you can store it safely, have a purpose for owning a gun not including self-defence.
But you can still get a gun...they are not banned.
You can't have a handgun for self defense. They are banned.
You can't have a semi auto rifle, pistol or shotgun for self defense or just about anything else...they are banned.
You can't have a pump action shotgun for self defense or anything else...they are banned.
If you want to shoot at targets in a club, leaving your gun at the club....you then can go through all the hoops anti gunners can create...and maybe...maybe, be allowed to get a gun for the club......
If you are a woman whose ex-husband says he is going to rape, and murder you and leave your body in the woods....the police will tell you you can't have a gun....being raped, murdered and left in a shallow grave is not a genuine reason to own a gun...
That is Australia....
If you are a criminal...you can get fully automatic military rifles.....