Australian man, with a gun, kills son over burned eggs...they banned and confiscated guns....

[2aguy]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

 

[August West]

Who told you it doesn`t happen in Australia? Give us some names.

 

[BlackFlag]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

 

[Skull Pilot]

but but gun laws

 

[2aguy]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

 

[2aguy]

Who told you it doesn`t happen in Australia? Give us some names.

the anti gunners tell us that Australian gun control works.....it obviously doesn't.

 

[BlackFlag]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

 

[2aguy]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

Dipshit...they banned and confiscated guns in Australia....... and criminals still get guns there......our gun crime rates are going down, their gun crime rates are going up.

 

[2aguy]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

The U.S.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia....

Gun city: Young, dumb and armed

The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.

These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.

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Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year

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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.

“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”

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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.

The investigation has found:

• There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
• Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
• The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
• Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
• Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts

In response to the violence, it can be revealed the state government is planning to introduce new criminal offences for drive-by shootings, manufacturing of firearms with new technologies such as 3D printers, and more police powers to keep weapons out of the hands of known criminals.
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The second part of the series....
Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West


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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty

Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."

The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.


And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.

 

[BlackFlag]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

Dipshit...they banned and confiscated guns in Australia....... and criminals still get guns there......our gun crime rates are going down, their gun crime rates are going up.

They have more guns now than when the buyback happened. It's really stupid of you to claim otherwise.

 

[2aguy]

Yep....we are told this doesn't happen in Australia......a man murdered his son with a gun in an island nation that banned and confiscated guns...

Father shot and killed son in an argument over a burnt omelette

TWENTY minutes after an argument with his son about a burnt omelette, Peter John Smith assembled his shotgun, walked calmly inside and fired two fatal rounds into his son’s chest.

Andrew Smith was 30 years old, a father of two little boys and several weeks into his latest attempt at getting off drugs.

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

Dipshit...they banned and confiscated guns in Australia....... and criminals still get guns there......our gun crime rates are going down, their gun crime rates are going up.

They have more guns now than when the buyback happened. It's really stupid of you to claim otherwise.

They can't....they banned and confiscated guns, the thing you asshats told us would end gun crime.....and now their criminals are using guns more and more, on a freaking island......

They banned and confiscated guns...and their gun control isn't working to stop gun crime.

We have more Americans who own and carry guns, and our gun crime rates are plummetting.......

 

[BlackFlag]

They bought back guns decades ago and people have since bought so many guns that they're back to pre-buy back numbers. So nobody should be surprised gun crime is going up.

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

Dipshit...they banned and confiscated guns in Australia....... and criminals still get guns there......our gun crime rates are going down, their gun crime rates are going up.

They have more guns now than when the buyback happened. It's really stupid of you to claim otherwise.

They can't....they banned and confiscated guns, the thing you asshats told us would end gun crime.....and now their criminals are using guns more and more, on a freaking island......

They banned and confiscated guns...and their gun control isn't working to stop gun crime.

We have more Americans who own and carry guns, and our gun crime rates are plummetting.......

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

 

[2aguy]

Wrong... law abiding people in Australia are not using guns for crime. Gun crime in Australia is going up among the criminal gangs in Australia, not the law abiding Australians..... gun control is not working in Australia.

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

Dipshit...they banned and confiscated guns in Australia....... and criminals still get guns there......our gun crime rates are going down, their gun crime rates are going up.

They have more guns now than when the buyback happened. It's really stupid of you to claim otherwise.

They can't....they banned and confiscated guns, the thing you asshats told us would end gun crime.....and now their criminals are using guns more and more, on a freaking island......

They banned and confiscated guns...and their gun control isn't working to stop gun crime.

We have more Americans who own and carry guns, and our gun crime rates are plummetting.......

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

Not possible.....you guys told us that if you ban and confiscate guns, it would solve the gun crime problem......

What part of they banned and confiscated guns on an island did you not freaking understand......and they still can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals......

Meanwhile..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[BlackFlag]

Law abiding people everywhere aren't using guns for crime. It's when you make it increasingly easier for non-law abiding people to get guns that you have a problem. That's the case in Australia right now.

Dipshit...they banned and confiscated guns in Australia....... and criminals still get guns there......our gun crime rates are going down, their gun crime rates are going up.

They have more guns now than when the buyback happened. It's really stupid of you to claim otherwise.

They can't....they banned and confiscated guns, the thing you asshats told us would end gun crime.....and now their criminals are using guns more and more, on a freaking island......

They banned and confiscated guns...and their gun control isn't working to stop gun crime.

We have more Americans who own and carry guns, and our gun crime rates are plummetting.......

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

Not possible.....you guys told us that if you ban and confiscate guns, it would solve the gun crime problem......

What part of they banned and confiscated guns on an island did you not freaking understand......and they still can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals......

Meanwhile..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

 

[2aguy]

Dipshit...they banned and confiscated guns in Australia....... and criminals still get guns there......our gun crime rates are going down, their gun crime rates are going up.

They have more guns now than when the buyback happened. It's really stupid of you to claim otherwise.

They can't....they banned and confiscated guns, the thing you asshats told us would end gun crime.....and now their criminals are using guns more and more, on a freaking island......

They banned and confiscated guns...and their gun control isn't working to stop gun crime.

We have more Americans who own and carry guns, and our gun crime rates are plummetting.......

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

Not possible.....you guys told us that if you ban and confiscate guns, it would solve the gun crime problem......

What part of they banned and confiscated guns on an island did you not freaking understand......and they still can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals......

Meanwhile..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

They banned and confiscated guns...... on an island....and they still can't keep their criminals from getting guns......

You do understand they banned and confiscated guns....right? You asshats keep telling us they banned guns and solved their gun problem..... and yet they didn't solve their gun crime problem....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[BlackFlag]

They have more guns now than when the buyback happened. It's really stupid of you to claim otherwise.

They can't....they banned and confiscated guns, the thing you asshats told us would end gun crime.....and now their criminals are using guns more and more, on a freaking island......

They banned and confiscated guns...and their gun control isn't working to stop gun crime.

We have more Americans who own and carry guns, and our gun crime rates are plummetting.......

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

Not possible.....you guys told us that if you ban and confiscate guns, it would solve the gun crime problem......

What part of they banned and confiscated guns on an island did you not freaking understand......and they still can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals......

Meanwhile..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

They banned and confiscated guns...... on an island....and they still can't keep their criminals from getting guns......

You do understand they banned and confiscated guns....right? You asshats keep telling us they banned guns and solved their gun problem..... and yet they didn't solve their gun crime problem....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

 

[2aguy]

They can't....they banned and confiscated guns, the thing you asshats told us would end gun crime.....and now their criminals are using guns more and more, on a freaking island......

They banned and confiscated guns...and their gun control isn't working to stop gun crime.

We have more Americans who own and carry guns, and our gun crime rates are plummetting.......

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

Not possible.....you guys told us that if you ban and confiscate guns, it would solve the gun crime problem......

What part of they banned and confiscated guns on an island did you not freaking understand......and they still can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals......

Meanwhile..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

They banned and confiscated guns...... on an island....and they still can't keep their criminals from getting guns......

You do understand they banned and confiscated guns....right? You asshats keep telling us they banned guns and solved their gun problem..... and yet they didn't solve their gun crime problem....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

They banned and confiscated guns....and yet criminals in Australia have more guns now than before.......you guys are morons....

In the United States?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Wry Catcher]

but but gun laws

No serious effort has been promulgated to repeal the 2nd A.; the effort to convince others that there is such a movement is a BIG LIE.

That said, the 2nd A. has never been lassiez faire in practice, and was not decided in Heller to be the case.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

Not possible.....you guys told us that if you ban and confiscate guns, it would solve the gun crime problem......

What part of they banned and confiscated guns on an island did you not freaking understand......and they still can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals......

Meanwhile..

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

They banned and confiscated guns...... on an island....and they still can't keep their criminals from getting guns......

You do understand they banned and confiscated guns....right? You asshats keep telling us they banned guns and solved their gun problem..... and yet they didn't solve their gun crime problem....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Australia Has More Privately Owned Guns Now, Than Before Gun Control Was Enacted

They banned and confiscated guns....and yet criminals in Australia have more guns now than before.......you guys are morons....

In the United States?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

A vote for any Republican, supports neo fascism. And yes it can happen here, and is happening now.
\
On topic, since it rebuts his signature line which is a BIG LIE: to wit: "A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!" Nowhere has any effort to promulgate a repeal of the 2nd A. has ever been put forth!!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

but but gun laws

No serious effort has been promulgated to repeal the 2nd A.; the effort to convince others that there is such a movement is a BIG LIE.

That said, the 2nd A. has never been lassiez faire in practice, and was not decided in Heller to be the case.

Where did I mention the second amendment in my post?

Where did I try to convince anyone that the second is going to be repealed in my post?

Gun laws do not and will not prevent gun crimes.

The state with the most lax gun laws in the country has a much lower murder rate than does the state with the strictest gun laws