Why guns matter, Israeli man saves family from 10 hamas monsters with just a Glock handgun

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The democrats and other leftists want to take our guns because they don’t want us to be able to stop them….

The open support of the atrocities against unarmed, innocent Israelis is just the tip of the left wing hate iceberg.

This story shows that even an a poorly armed citizen can fight and win against heavily armed monsters.

An Israeli father, a police officer, held off 10 hamas monsters, saving his wife and daughter from rape, torture, mutilation, kidnapping and murder……this makes a lot of leftists mad….they should have simply submitted to the rape, torture, murder, kidnapping and mutilation instead of having that gun.

This miracle was made possible with one Glock handgun and more than 10 bullets in his magazine…….against leftist beloved hamas monsters armed with fully automatic military rifles…..



Keep in mind…….the anti-gun extremists do not want this man to have that gun……they do not want Israeli civilians to have rifles…….they actually prefer the rape, torture, murder, and mutilation………..how do we know…..?

Because even knowing what actually happened to over 1,400 innocent men, women and children….and babies….if they could to back in time and give those people the rifles they needed to stop the attack……they wouldn’t give those people rifles or pistols…….

One man with a handgun vs. 10 Hamas monsters with fully automatic rifles….
 
The democrats and other leftists want to take our guns because they don’t want us to be able to stop them….

The open support of the atrocities against unarmed, innocent Israelis is just the tip of the left wing hate iceberg.

This story shows that even an a poorly armed citizen can fight and win against heavily armed monsters.

An Israeli father, a police officer, held off 10 hamas monsters, saving his wife and daughter from rape, torture, mutilation, kidnapping and murder……this makes a lot of leftists mad….they should have simply submitted to the rape, torture, murder, kidnapping and mutilation instead of having that gun.

This miracle was made possible with one Glock handgun and more than 10 bullets in his magazine…….against leftist beloved hamas monsters armed with fully automatic military rifles…..



Keep in mind…….the anti-gun extremists do not want this man to have that gun……they do not want Israeli civilians to have rifles…….they actually prefer the rape, torture, murder, and mutilation………..how do we know…..?

Because even knowing what actually happened to over 1,400 innocent men, women and children….and babies….if they could to back in time and give those people the rifles they needed to stop the attack……they wouldn’t give those people rifles or pistols…….

One man with a handgun vs. 10 Hamas monsters with fully automatic rifles….
I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of those sorts of cases that won't make the "news" because I'm sure plenty of sane, responsible and coherent Israelis ignored the bed wetters and kept guns regardless of asinine regressive leftist policy. I'm wondering how much gunfire hamas terrorists received from Israeli civilian resistance and how many if any were casualties.
 
I wonder if they will find a Crisis Actor looking like Rambo to milk this likely garbage story .
 
The democrats and other leftists want to take our guns because they don’t want us to be able to stop them….

The open support of the atrocities against unarmed, innocent Israelis is just the tip of the left wing hate iceberg.

This story shows that even an a poorly armed citizen can fight and win against heavily armed monsters.

An Israeli father, a police officer, held off 10 hamas monsters, saving his wife and daughter from rape, torture, mutilation, kidnapping and murder……this makes a lot of leftists mad….they should have simply submitted to the rape, torture, murder, kidnapping and mutilation instead of having that gun.

This miracle was made possible with one Glock handgun and more than 10 bullets in his magazine…….against leftist beloved hamas monsters armed with fully automatic military rifles…..



Keep in mind…….the anti-gun extremists do not want this man to have that gun……they do not want Israeli civilians to have rifles…….they actually prefer the rape, torture, murder, and mutilation………..how do we know…..?

Because even knowing what actually happened to over 1,400 innocent men, women and children….and babies….if they could to back in time and give those people the rifles they needed to stop the attack……they wouldn’t give those people rifles or pistols…….

One man with a handgun vs. 10 Hamas monsters with fully automatic rifles….
Everyone has a favorite, Glock is mine.
 
The democrats and other leftists want to take our guns because they don’t want us to be able to stop them….

The open support of the atrocities against unarmed, innocent Israelis is just the tip of the left wing hate iceberg.

This story shows that even an a poorly armed citizen can fight and win against heavily armed monsters.

An Israeli father, a police officer, held off 10 hamas monsters, saving his wife and daughter from rape, torture, mutilation, kidnapping and murder……this makes a lot of leftists mad….they should have simply submitted to the rape, torture, murder, kidnapping and mutilation instead of having that gun.

This miracle was made possible with one Glock handgun and more than 10 bullets in his magazine…….against leftist beloved hamas monsters armed with fully automatic military rifles…..



Keep in mind…….the anti-gun extremists do not want this man to have that gun……they do not want Israeli civilians to have rifles…….they actually prefer the rape, torture, murder, and mutilation………..how do we know…..?

Because even knowing what actually happened to over 1,400 innocent men, women and children….and babies….if they could to back in time and give those people the rifles they needed to stop the attack……they wouldn’t give those people rifles or pistols…….

One man with a handgun vs. 10 Hamas monsters with fully automatic rifles….

Are you anticipating that the United States of America will be attacked by murderous commandos, in the night and butchered by them.

How many millions of Americans have to die in order to ensure that when it does everyone has a gun?

45,000 Americans die from gun violence every year. 1400 people died in the HAMAS attack. In 10 years time you will have killed half 1 million people to save that one family.
 
Are you anticipating that the United States of America will be attacked by murderous commandos, in the night and butchered by them.

How many millions of Americans have to die in order to ensure that when it does everyone has a gun?

45,000 Americans die from gun violence every year. 1400 people died in the HAMAS attack. In 10 years time you will have killed half 1 million people to save that one family.
Then maybe you Leftards shouldn’t be releasing violent criminals from prison before the end of their sentence if you’re concerned about violence, fuckwad violent rioter lover.
 
Are you anticipating that the United States of America will be attacked by murderous commandos, in the night and butchered by them.

How many millions of Americans have to die in order to ensure that when it does everyone has a gun?

45,000 Americans die from gun violence every year. 1400 people died in the HAMAS attack. In 10 years time you will have killed half 1 million people to save that one family.


Liar.....the majority of the gun deaths in this country are suicides...you know this but continue to lie about it.

Every year Americans use their guns an average of 1.2 million times a year to save people from rape, robbery, murder, beatings, stabbings and even mass public shootings....but you would rather they are raped, even tortured and murdered rather than they use a gun to save themselves....
 
Liar.....the majority of the gun deaths in this country are suicides...you know this but continue to lie about it.

Every year Americans use their guns an average of 1.2 million times a year to save people from rape, robbery, murder, beatings, stabbings and even mass public shootings....but you would rather they are raped, even tortured and murdered rather than they use a gun to save themselves....

Well they wouldn't be dead if they didn't have a gun. Suicide is gun violence.

Your "guns saved us" satistics are completely false. They are based on anecdotal evidence with no proof behind it.

Studies done on the accounts and statements by people in law enforcement, of those claiming to have used their weapons to prevent crimes, have found that those who used their weapons in what they claimed was self defense to prevent at crime, were in fact using their weapons to threaten and menace others, and they were, at all times, the agressors.
 
Well they wouldn't be dead if they didn't have a gun. Suicide is gun violence.

Your "guns saved us" satistics are completely false. They are based on anecdotal evidence with no proof behind it.

Studies done on the accounts and statements by people in law enforcement, of those claiming to have used their weapons to prevent crimes, have found that those who used their weapons in what they claimed was self defense to prevent at crime, were in fact using their weapons to threaten and menace others, and they were, at all times, the agressors.
Dingbat people kill themselves everyday without a gun.
Suicide is not gun violence because it's not the gun shooting anyone.
Stop reading those leftist fairytale statistics
 
I wonder if they will find a Crisis Actor looking like Rambo to milk this likely garbage story .
Why do you call the story garbage? Hamas found unarmed Israelis easy targets. This man was not an easy target only because he was armed with a pistol he knew how to use effectively.

The lesson is don’t be an easy target. Your chances of survival goes up if you are armed if and when the bad guys attack your home. If you lose, at least you died fighting not begging.
 
Well they wouldn't be dead if they didn't have a gun. Suicide is gun violence.

Your "guns saved us" satistics are completely false. They are based on anecdotal evidence with no proof behind it.

Studies done on the accounts and statements by people in law enforcement, of those claiming to have used their weapons to prevent crimes, have found that those who used their weapons in what they claimed was self defense to prevent at crime, were in fact using their weapons to threaten and menace others, and they were, at all times, the agressors.


Then you have to explain why it is that Japan, South Korea, China have higher suicide rates than we do with their extreme gun control....

Dittos for a majority of European countries and Canada who also have higher suicide rates than we do....

Yeah......you have to show that link, first of all, because it will go directly to an anti-gun extremist making that claim....

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—

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A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)


2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey

Clinton's study by the DOJ....

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

Applying those restrictions leaves 19 NSPOF respondents (0.8 percent of the sample), representing 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known estimate of Kleck and Gertz, shown in the last column of exhibit 7. While the NSPOF estimate is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. Inclusion of multiple DGUs reported by half of the 19 NSPOF respondents increases the estimate to 4.7 million DGUs.



n the third column of Table 6.2, we apply the Kleck and Gertz (1995) criteria for "genuine" DGUs (type A), leaving us with just 19 respondents. They represent 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known Kleck and Gertz estimate of 2.5 million, shown in the last

While ours is smaller, it is staistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. to the when we include the multiple DGUs victim. defensive reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 milli

While ours is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference petrator; in most cases (69 percent), the is due to sampling error. Note that when we include the multiple DGUs reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 million DGUs.
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As shown in Table 6.6, the defender fired his or her gun in 27 percent of these incidents (combined "fire warning shots" and "fire at perpetrator" percentages, though some respondents reported firing both warning shots and airning at the perpetrator). Forty percent of these were "warning shots," and about a third were aimed at the perpetrator but missed. The perpetrator was wounded by the crime victim in eight percent of all DGUs. In nine percent of DGUs the victim captured and held the perpetrator at gunpoint until the police could arrive.

Obama's study...

Defensive Use of Guns

Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010).
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press.

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press
 
Then maybe you Leftards shouldn’t be releasing violent criminals from prison before the end of their sentence if you’re concerned about violence, fuckwad violent rioter lover.

Why do all of your solutions involve locking people up? You have more people in prison than any country in the world - more than China and Russia combined and you keep wanting to lock more and more people up.

You've run out of room in your prisons and jails. There is no more room to lock people up. Instead of looking at the causes of crime, you blame liberal policies for this mess.

When people see the politicians stealing millions in plain view, why shouldn't they just take what they want.

Civilization is a fragile compact between the people and their leaders, and when the people are convinced that their leaders have broken that compact, then all bets are off.

According to you right wingers, all politicians are corrupt and all politicians are taking bribes and all politicians are stealing millions of dollars so why shouldn’t they go down to the Gucci store and help themselves too? Why should the little people be the only ones living by the rules when the elites don’t have any?

Dingbat people kill themselves everyday without a gun.
Suicide is not gun violence because it's not the gun shooting anyone.
Stop reading those leftist fairytale statistics

Pretzel logic at its finest. “Dingbat people” don’t matter. Liberals don’t matter. School shootings are the price you pay for the second amendment. Women don’t matter.

For a poliiltical movement that calls itself “pro-life” there’s a lot of American lives you simply don’t care about at all.

Dingbats, committing suicide, leave behind broken and traumatized, families, enormous losses to the economy, and communities looking for answers.

During Covid Republicans were telling the elderly to take “a hit for their grandchildren and the economy” and not fight the virus.

Women are being denied, life-saving, maternal healthcare, because the life of their unborn child is more important than the life of the woman carrying it.

Is George Carlin said “Republicans only care about you until you’re born. After that you’re on your own. Fuck you.”

I go further and say that after you’re born, you’re just target practice for the crazies with the AR15’s.
 
Why do all of your solutions involve locking people up? You have more people in prison than any country in the world - more than China and Russia combined and you keep wanting to lock more and more people up.

You've run out of room in your prisons and jails. There is no more room to lock people up. Instead of looking at the causes of crime, you blame liberal policies for this mess.

When people see the politicians stealing millions in plain view, why shouldn't they just take what they want.

Civilization is a fragile compact between the people and their leaders, and when the people are convinced that their leaders have broken that compact, then all bets are off.

According to you right wingers, all politicians are corrupt and all politicians are taking bribes and all politicians are stealing millions of dollars so why shouldn’t they go down to the Gucci store and help themselves too? Why should the little people be the only ones living by the rules when the elites don’t have any?



Pretzel logic at its finest. “Dingbat people” don’t matter. Liberals don’t matter. School shootings are the price you pay for the second amendment. Women don’t matter.

For a poliiltical movement that calls itself “pro-life” there’s a lot of American lives you simply don’t care about at all.

Dingbats, committing suicide, leave behind broken and traumatized, families, enormous losses to the economy, and communities looking for answers.

During Covid Republicans were telling the elderly to take “a hit for their grandchildren and the economy” and not fight the virus.

Women are being denied, life-saving, maternal healthcare, because the life of their unborn child is more important than the life of the woman carrying it.

Is George Carlin said “Republicans only care about you until you’re born. After that you’re on your own. Fuck you.”

I go further and say that after you’re born, you’re just target practice for the crazies with the AR15’s.
No ding bat being you. Suicide is not violence suicide can happen no matter what is used.
Women are being denied the right to defend themselves. That is the only thing they are being denied.
 
Why do all of your solutions involve locking people up? You have more people in prison than any country in the world - more than China and Russia combined and you keep wanting to lock more and more people up.

You've run out of room in your prisons and jails. There is no more room to lock people up. Instead of looking at the causes of crime, you blame liberal policies for this mess.

When people see the politicians stealing millions in plain view, why shouldn't they just take what they want.

Civilization is a fragile compact between the people and their leaders, and when the people are convinced that their leaders have broken that compact, then all bets are off.

According to you right wingers, all politicians are corrupt and all politicians are taking bribes and all politicians are stealing millions of dollars so why shouldn’t they go down to the Gucci store and help themselves too? Why should the little people be the only ones living by the rules when the elites don’t have any?



Pretzel logic at its finest. “Dingbat people” don’t matter. Liberals don’t matter. School shootings are the price you pay for the second amendment. Women don’t matter.

For a poliiltical movement that calls itself “pro-life” there’s a lot of American lives you simply don’t care about at all.

Dingbats, committing suicide, leave behind broken and traumatized, families, enormous losses to the economy, and communities looking for answers.

During Covid Republicans were telling the elderly to take “a hit for their grandchildren and the economy” and not fight the virus.

Women are being denied, life-saving, maternal healthcare, because the life of their unborn child is more important than the life of the woman carrying it.

Is George Carlin said “Republicans only care about you until you’re born. After that you’re on your own. Fuck you.”

I go further and say that after you’re born, you’re just target practice for the crazies with the AR15’s.
What a load of yammering gibberish.
 
Why do all of your solutions involve locking people up? You have more people in prison than any country in the world - more than China and Russia combined and you keep wanting to lock more and more people up.

You've run out of room in your prisons and jails. There is no more room to lock people up. Instead of looking at the causes of crime, you blame liberal policies for this mess.

When people see the politicians stealing millions in plain view, why shouldn't they just take what they want.

Civilization is a fragile compact between the people and their leaders, and when the people are convinced that their leaders have broken that compact, then all bets are off.

According to you right wingers, all politicians are corrupt and all politicians are taking bribes and all politicians are stealing millions of dollars so why shouldn’t they go down to the Gucci store and help themselves too? Why should the little people be the only ones living by the rules when the elites don’t have any?



Pretzel logic at its finest. “Dingbat people” don’t matter. Liberals don’t matter. School shootings are the price you pay for the second amendment. Women don’t matter.

For a poliiltical movement that calls itself “pro-life” there’s a lot of American lives you simply don’t care about at all.

Dingbats, committing suicide, leave behind broken and traumatized, families, enormous losses to the economy, and communities looking for answers.

During Covid Republicans were telling the elderly to take “a hit for their grandchildren and the economy” and not fight the virus.

Women are being denied, life-saving, maternal healthcare, because the life of their unborn child is more important than the life of the woman carrying it.

Is George Carlin said “Republicans only care about you until you’re born. After that you’re on your own. Fuck you.”

I go further and say that after you’re born, you’re just target practice for the crazies with the AR15’s.
Why do all of your solutions involve locking people up?
Because people who walk up to a stranger and shoots them in the head splattering their brains over a 40 foot arc just for kicks don’t belong in society.

But thanks for showing how you Leftards want deranged violent people loose in society walking among us.
 
Then maybe you Leftards shouldn’t be releasing violent criminals from prison before the end of their sentence if you’re concerned about violence, fuckwad violent rioter lover.

Why do all of your solutions involve locking people up? You have more people in prison than any country in the world - more than China and Russia combined and you keep wanting to lock more and more people up.

You've run out of room in your prisons and jails. There is no more room to lock people up. Instead of looking at the causes of crime, you blame liberal policies for this mess.

When people see the politicians stealing millions in plain view, why shouldn't they just take what they want too. These are the unintended results of your refusal to hold Trump accountable for his crimes, and the false claims that the Bidens are corrupt.
 
Because people who walk up to a stranger and shoots them in the head splattering their brains over a 40 foot arc just for kicks don’t belong in society.

But thanks for showing how you Leftards want deranged violent people loose in society walking among us.

You're the guys who are selling them the guns. The SC just decreed that convicted felons have the right to purchase guns, under the 2nd Amendmentment.

You keep giving guns to people who have already proven they can't follow the laws.,
 

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