Yes, illegal immigrants can register to vote.

[Care4all]

How do you know they are accessing them?

I don't. That's why Congress should be focussing on that, and tighten rules and laws on that, up!

Voter registration forms, are meant to be applications, and vetted to meet constitutional muster....before approval!!!

 

[Delldude]

That's why Congress should be focussing on that, and tighten rules and laws on that, up!

Ahh............hence the Save Act.

Voter registration forms, are meant to be applications, and vetted to meet constitutional muster....before approval!!!

Don't think so, all you do is provide the required forms of ID and you're registered.

 

[Care4all]

Ahh............hence the Save Act.


Don't think so, all you do is provide the required forms of ID and you're registered.

Nope! The SAVE ACT does nothing of the sort and focuses on hurdles for citizens instead of the election officials, and cuts off in the bud, voter registration drives.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No..they can't. Not allowed to vote. Period. Except in a few school board districts where they have a direct interest (their child).

Why do we keep recycling lies?..oh yeah. The GOP has NOTHING but division and grievance left to offer the American voter.

plenty of division with the DNC too....

 

[surada]

Nonsense. California has given DL's to illegals since 2013.

Look up their requirements.

What You Need

To apply for an instruction permit or driver’s license, you must provide:

Proof of identity: Proving who you are.
Two proofs of residency: Proving you live in California. Exceptions may apply.

Legal full name document: Proving your current name if the name on your identity document and application do not match.

Social security number: Exceptions may apply.

For REAL ID requirements, current acceptable documents, and eligibility, visit dmv.ca.gov/realid.

 

[Delldude]

Nope! The SAVE ACT does nothing of the sort and focuses on hurdles for citizens instead of the election officials, and cuts off in the bud, voter registration drives.

It protects and preserves the rights of voters by requiring states to check citizenship when registering to vote.

That's not a hurdle.

 

[leftwinger]

Oh............ok............

Voter Registration Rules - Vote.org

Voter registration rules for all 50 states. Make sure you're eligible, then register to vote.

www.vote.org

Correct. The rules say "you must be a citizen" but the USSC ruled they cannot force them to show it for FEDERAL Elections. So they can end up getting a FEDERAL only ballot.. They can force them to show it to vote in STATE elections only if they choose to do it. I don't have time to watch these STAIN spin!!!!! i am working here. I posted all these FACTS several times. I hate their blackened criminal guts and would gladly feed them one by one into dul slow woodchipper!

Again....you check the box "I am a citizen", you check the box homeless, no id whatever. No one checks it and they all sail thru. No one has time to check millions and State workers are lazy DEM scum looking forward to pension.

This all ends up a harvested Mail-In ballot maybe FED only in some states? No matter what the board maggots say. Millions more of them are registered already since 2020 surge the border. //

 

[Hollie]

They are still not allowed to vote in a state, national, or local election (except in a few distinct local districts).
The OP states clearly that the GOP is introducing this "bill"..not Democrats. It is designed to address a problem that doesn't exist.
To get people like you easily outraged.

Why were Democrats pimping an immigration bill earlier when the country already has immigration laws that Dems / Socialists refuse to enforce? Why don't Dems /Socialists address a problem they created?

 

[leftwinger]

CocC biters.

In an Arizona voting case, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that states are obligated to permit registration for federal elections using the federal form, which does not require documentary proof of citizenship.

****what a bunch of BS
When people register to vote, they sign a form attesting under penalty of perjury that they are a citizen and eligible to vote.

Cases of noncitizens voting are statistically rare. Some noncitizens accidentally end up on voter rolls when applying for drivers’ licenses.

States can check various databases in an effort to verify citizenship status, although some of those efforts have produced errors and are flawed.

 

[leftwinger]

“No state in the country verifies United States citizenship as a condition for voting in federal elections.”


Translation: they flood out Mail-in ballots to any names on the voter rolls. Shelters/charities incoming "illegal immigrants" will sign up for anything they put in front of them with an EBT card hanging in the balance. No one can check or verify that big of a moving target without some form of legit ID. Illegals and homesless and criminals gladly say "no ID, no address"//

 

[leftwinger]

Just MICH. Just a few drop boxes. Imagine.

 

[leftwinger]

So, why are approximately 50,000 Michigan registrants recorded at illegal addresses of record? item e...IF AVAILABLE
item f,g,h....they can simply lie. no one will stop them. Stain suck massive amounts of plain ole' black crank.

Names recorded to a generic address for a giant complex (1656 E. Lansing rd or whatever) with 1500 units. 4000 residents.
Ballots get dumped off at the Mailbox Island......where as While there are mailbox islands within the complex, anything requiring a signature for delivery could not be left at these islands.

Now you know.

 

[leftwinger]

Photos from a confidential source close to the Muskegon investigation reveal what far-left Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel now admits is a stack of faked and fraudulent voter application forms with a return address at a Staybridge hotel, the base of operations for GBI Strategies in 2020 that sent out at least ten thousand fake voter registration applications for the election.

voter signatures are in the same handwriting and just printed signatures, not real signings.

 

[leftwinger]

Looking back at voter registration trends, from mid-2015 to mid-2019, voter registrations rose on average 1,250 per year. However, in 2020, we see a massive spike in voter registrations. Between October, 2019 and Nov., 3, 2020, 17,100 voter registrations were added. Another 1,060 were added between November, 2020 and Jan., 1, 202[1]. This is not consistent with historical trends from the previous 4 – 5 years and in fact increased the Muskegon County voter registration drastically. The end result is that we had 13,130 excess registered voters above the VAP residing in Muskegon County during the 2020 election.

What is even more concerning is the 9,000 – 18,179 voter registrations that had been removed from the QVF during the first quarter of 2021. The election committee got a snapshot of the county’s QVF in May of 2021 and it showed about 131,254 records compared to the QVF at the end of December 2020 when that snapshot showed 149,433 records. It appears that 18,179 records have been removed from the Muskegon County QVF in the first quarter of 2021…

example after example of massive fraud...ignored, covered up and lied about by Stain, FBlie and MICH GOVT scum.

 

[leftwinger]

Table 1: More Absentee Ballots Returned than Sent Out; Actual data from one township
xxxxx Township
Box2 AV Daily Ballot Report 11/03/2020

Source: Township or city clerk

Read it and weep you commee LYING POS.

 

[leftwinger]

Election Analysis Report: Muskegon County November 3, 2020
Executive Summary Issued April 30, 2022
Written by Chris Kaijala

A team of Muskegon County residents have been researching the mechanics of the November 3, 2020
election. Several important races in Muskegon County were determined by less than 600 votes. It is clear that
the voter registration file (Qualified Voter File or QVF) has many anomalies. The number of actual voter
registrations in Muskegon County should be 115,000 adults. More than 18,000 voter registrations were
added in 2020, and many were removed after the election. This is the initial report that covers 12 issues
under study related to this election. More than 18,000 voter registrations were added then deleted, 6,000 of
these voted. There were issues with about 44% of the 159 voter addresses that were initially canvassed. This
could affect up to 700 votes. It is clear that only several thousand votes could alter the outcome of several
races.


Election Analysis Report: Muskegon County November 3, 2020 (Issued 4/30/22 Rev. 0)
*Property of and paid for by the Muskegon County Republican Executive Committee

11. Approximately 6,000 voter registrations (that showed a vote was cast) in the “149k” QVF were removed
in Q1 2021.
12. Over 7,000 QVF entries were added then deleted between October 2020 and March 2021; moreover
these were not reported by the MI SOS.
13. The MC 2020 Election was influenced by private funds from billionaires. The influence of large amounts
of money came through 3rd party CTCL grants given to government groups in our County.
14. Ballot drop boxes and the mobile get-out-the-vote trailer created a possibility for “chain-of-custody”
problems and ballot harvesting.
15. A lack of Republican election workers and analysts contributed to problems and the real possibility that
election results were affected, and this perception eroded confidence in the election result.
16. Inability to finalize the election result in a timely manner eroded confidence in election outcomes.
17. If ineligible votes were cast, then MC resident’s votes and voice were not reflected as wins in some of
the races.

This Report by the numbers: QVF / Canvassing Highlights to date: Reference
• 234 dead voters / 90 death certificates found QVF dated 2nd Qtr 2021
• 3 dead voters born in 1850
• 1 dead voter born in 1892
• 247 voters age 100 to 170 years old, 15 voted
• 1,726 voters age 90 to 99, 163 death records found, and 939 voted
• 126 incorrect registrations found to date
• 2,051 people registered on a single day (October 9, 2020)
• There are many names of people that never existed in Muskegon County
• 114 registrations at transient locations / addresses QVF dated Dec 2020
• 128 duplicates to date (Zip Code List)
• Registrations at Vacant lots, vacant homes, and boat slips exist
• 13 voter registrations are associated with the Brookhaven Facility. It closed before Nov. 3, 2020

• 1,775 new residents moved into Muskegon County from 2015 to 2019 2010 US Census
• 3,225 excess registrations (voter records) were added to the MC QVF from 2015 – 2019
• 17,100 voter registrations were added between Oct 2019 and Nov 3, 2020 MI SOS Data
• 1,060 voter registrations were added between Nov 3, 2020 and Jan 1, 2021
• 13,130 excess registrations were in the QVF above the adult population (9.6% more than pop.)
• about 32,500 voter registrations in the Muskegon County QVF in Nov. 2020 did NOT represent the actual
voting public

• 9,000 to 20,854 voter records were apparently deleted in Q1 2021 from the Dec 2020 QVF
• 1,039 of the 20,854 records had no prior voting history recorded for Muskegon County.
• 6,294 of the 20,854 records had recorded votes in the 2020 election.
• 3,403 of the 6,294 voted in person at the 2020 election.
• 2,891 of the 6,294 voted by absentee ballot in the 2020 election.
• 170 of the 2,891 records casting absentee ballots in this group were 90 or more years old.

chew on that one filthy maggots.

 

[Care4all]

It protects and preserves the rights of voters by requiring states to check citizenship when registering to vote.

That's not a hurdle.

Election officials can check it, without the person registering being there or handing them something that they already have access to through their systems to compare and verify the information on the applications are correct. The onus should be on election officials to verify the applications and whether those applying qualify to be a voter...for age, with their address for the district and polling place they should be voting in, with citizenship, if they are a restricted ex felon etc.

Under law as written IT IS ELECTION OFFICIAL'S duty to fulfill the verifications after they receive the sworn affidavit applications. This way the volunteers or paid solicitors by different parties or non profits to get citizens to register can have their registration drives in parks, street corners, schools, Malls, churches, and many other venues without making the volunteer or paid person running the drives be responsible for checking for citizenship on the street corner.

The election official who receive the registration applications and who is paid by our government, and can be punished by their employer....our government, can be held responsible if they don't follow the laws for verification of the registration applications requirements....

 

[Delldude]

Election officials can check it, without the person registering being there or handing them something that they already have access to through their systems to compare and verify the information on the applications are correct. The onus should be on election officials to verify the applications and whether those applying qualify to be a voter...for age, with their address for the district and polling place they should be voting in, with citizenship, if they are a restricted ex felon etc.

Under law as written IT IS ELECTION OFFICIAL'S duty to fulfill the verifications after they receive the sworn affidavit applications. This way the volunteers or paid solicitors by different parties or non profits to get citizens to register can have their registration drives in parks, street corners, schools, Malls, churches, and many other venues without making the volunteer or paid person running the drives be responsible for checking for citizenship on the street corner.

The election official who receive the registration applications and who is paid by our government, and can be punished by their employer....our government, can be held responsible if they don't follow the laws for verification of the registration applications requirements....

LOL................no source.............

 

[Delldude]

Election officials can check it, without the person registering being there or handing them something that they already have access to through their systems to compare and verify the information on the applications are correct. The onus should be on election officials to verify the applications and whether those applying qualify to be a voter...for age, with their address for the district and polling place they should be voting in, with citizenship, if they are a restricted ex felon etc.

Under law as written IT IS ELECTION OFFICIAL'S duty to fulfill the verifications after they receive the sworn affidavit applications. This way the volunteers or paid solicitors by different parties or non profits to get citizens to register can have their registration drives in parks, street corners, schools, Malls, churches, and many other venues without making the volunteer or paid person running the drives be responsible for checking for citizenship on the street corner.

The election official who receive the registration applications and who is paid by our government, and can be punished by their employer....our government, can be held responsible if they don't follow the laws for verification of the registration applications requirements....

Your problem is each state has it's own requirements and procedures.

 

[Care4all]

Your problem is each state has it's own requirements and procedures.

Yes, in our Republic and under our Constitution, States run all elections, including federal elections and make the rules governing elections for their own State....

So, are you implying this Republican created law passed in Congress governing the State elections through its directions on how all states must handle voter registration vetting is UNConstitutional??