Athiest Playbook

[sealybobo]

She should not be required to carry the child and give birth. It is her body. There are far too many unwanted children in the world, far too many in foster care that can't find homes, far too many in poverty or abused.

Adoption is her choice, but so is having an abortion.

what is killed is not her body......there are no unwanted children, the problem of children in foster homes now is that the parents refuse to release them for adoption.....if they were truly "unwanted" by their parents they would have been adopted when they were infants......

Why don't you follow the example of the guy in NY and adopt 20 kids for a starter and stay out of a woman right to choose

are you complaining that I haven't adopted any children?......

You couldn't possibly adopt enough. Why doesn't Bill Gates instead of donating half his money to "charities" that won't do good with it, why doesn't he just give all the money to orphanages? Warren Buffet too.

if it goes the way of the vaccines gates gave, I think we can come us with the better option. At lease gates gets in and gets his hands dirty, not just throw billions out the window.

I think when we run out of oil we should use orphans for fuel.

 

[aris2chat]

what is killed is not her body......there are no unwanted children, the problem of children in foster homes now is that the parents refuse to release them for adoption.....if they were truly "unwanted" by their parents they would have been adopted when they were infants......

Why don't you follow the example of the guy in NY and adopt 20 kids for a starter and stay out of a woman right to choose

are you complaining that I haven't adopted any children?......

You couldn't possibly adopt enough. Why doesn't Bill Gates instead of donating half his money to "charities" that won't do good with it, why doesn't he just give all the money to orphanages? Warren Buffet too.

if it goes the way of the vaccines gates gave, I think we can come us with the better option. At lease gates gets in and gets his hands dirty, not just throw billions out the window.

I think when we run out of oil we should use orphans for fuel.

shit works better

 

[sealybobo]

Why don't you follow the example of the guy in NY and adopt 20 kids for a starter and stay out of a woman right to choose

are you complaining that I haven't adopted any children?......

You couldn't possibly adopt enough. Why doesn't Bill Gates instead of donating half his money to "charities" that won't do good with it, why doesn't he just give all the money to orphanages? Warren Buffet too.

if it goes the way of the vaccines gates gave, I think we can come us with the better option. At lease gates gets in and gets his hands dirty, not just throw billions out the window.

I think when we run out of oil we should use orphans for fuel.

shit works better

How do you know that? Have you even tried turning orphans into fuel yet before deciding that? Have you tested your conclusion? It is after all the scientific method. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Question everything. Well, I'm questioning if orphans burn better than 15 million year old dinosaur sludge.

This is of course just to take us back on topic. This is the atheist playbook thread. Abortion is legal and ok because there is no god. If god wants us to outlaw abortion let him come here and prove himself.

Christians always say we have a choice. We can choose Jesus or not. Well, I choose not. So where's the nearest abortion clinic?

 

[aris2chat]

are you complaining that I haven't adopted any children?......

You couldn't possibly adopt enough. Why doesn't Bill Gates instead of donating half his money to "charities" that won't do good with it, why doesn't he just give all the money to orphanages? Warren Buffet too.

if it goes the way of the vaccines gates gave, I think we can come us with the better option. At lease gates gets in and gets his hands dirty, not just throw billions out the window.

I think when we run out of oil we should use orphans for fuel.

shit works better

How do you know that? Have you even tried turning orphans into fuel yet before deciding that? Have you tested your conclusion? It is after all the scientific method. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Question everything. Well, I'm questioning if orphans burn better than 15 million year old dinosaur sludge.

This is of course just to take us back on topic. This is the atheist playbook thread. Abortion is legal and ok because there is no god. If god wants us to outlaw abortion let him come here and prove himself.

Christians always say we have a choice. We can choose Jesus or not. Well, I choose not. So where's the nearest abortion clinic?

The body has too much fluid and moisture beside fat to burn well without another form of fuel. Have you ever tried to ignite a body with just a match? I know a lot of us are full of hot air but it is really only the fat and dry dung that has a potential as a fuel. If were were dried crisp like a mummy first perhaps.

 

[zaangalewa]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Erastosthenes presented about 2300 years ago all known facts why the Earth is a globe. The knowledge itselve was older. He calculated the circumference of the Earth is 50 times the distance between Assuan and Alexandria. (= 835 km = 519 mi). 519 *50 = 25950 mi. For the first approximation this was very good.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge.

What's wrong. Nicolaus Copernicus for example was a catholic capitular or Max Plank for example was a protestant. Both men believed in god.

Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

You are a Nazi. The Nazis "teached" for example the sun is a special form of iceberg. No joke. No one is able to make Nazis dump. Nazis are dumpness per se. Even if Nazis say something what could sound first as if it could be true - there is for sure something behind this "truth" no one likes really to know.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

He's a Christian. Christians don't live in fear of truth. Your are a Nazi. A Christian who would believe in anything what a Nazi says would be on the wrong way to Tipperary or any other place on Earth where's good to live. The Nazi-ideology (racism for example) leads everyone into death.

Overuse of the words Nazi, socialist & communism?

Left or right political spectrum is for me unimportant. And I'm also not thinking because someone is using a word like "antfascist" he is not a Nazi - or someone who speaks in the name of god is really a Jew, Christian or Muslim. You are fighting against the nature of the unalienable human rights - you are fighting against your own better knowledge for racism and mass-murder. What you "know" about 'science' is in most cases without real base. No doubt - you are a Nazi.

 

[zaangalewa]

...
I think when we run out of oil we should use orphans for fuel.

shit works better

Οἷα ἂν πολλάκις φαντασθῇς, τοιαύτη σοι ἔσται ἡ διάνοια˙ βάπτεται γὰρ ὑπὸ τῶν φαντασιῶν ἡ ψυχή.
Marc Aurel

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Erastosthenes presented about 2300 years ago all known facts why the Earth is a globe. The knowledge itselve was older. He calculated the circumference of the Earth is 50 times the distance between Assuan and Alexandria. (= 835 km = 519 mi). 519 *50 = 25950 mi. For the first approximation this was very good.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge.

What's wrong. Nicolaus Copernicus for example was a catholic capitular or Max Plank for example was a protestant. Both men believed in god.

Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

You are a Nazi. The Nazis "teached" for example the sun is a special form of iceberg. No joke. No one is able to make Nazis dump. Nazis are dumpness per se. Even if Nazis say something what could sound first as if it could be true - there is for sure something behind this "truth" no one likes really to know.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

He's a Christian. Christians don't live in fear of truth. Your are a Nazi. A Christian who would believe in anything what a Nazi says would be on the wrong way to Tipperary or any other place on Earth where's good to live. The Nazi-ideology (racism for example) leads everyone into death.

Overuse of the words Nazi, socialist & communism?

Left or right political spectrum is for me unimportant. And I'm also not thinking because someone is using a word like "antfascist" he is not a Nazi - or someone who speaks in the name of god is really a Jew, Christian or Muslim. You are fighting against the nature of the unalienable human rights - you are fighting against your own better knowledge for racism and mass-murder. What you "know" about 'science' is in most cases without real base. No doubt - you are a Nazi.

Give me some examples of how I remind you of Nazi's. Because if I'm not mistaken, they were mostly Catholics.

 

[zaangalewa]

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Erastosthenes presented about 2300 years ago all known facts why the Earth is a globe. The knowledge itselve was older. He calculated the circumference of the Earth is 50 times the distance between Assuan and Alexandria. (= 835 km = 519 mi). 519 *50 = 25950 mi. For the first approximation this was very good.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge.

What's wrong. Nicolaus Copernicus for example was a catholic capitular or Max Plank for example was a protestant. Both men believed in god.

Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

You are a Nazi. The Nazis "teached" for example the sun is a special form of iceberg. No joke. No one is able to make Nazis dump. Nazis are dumpness per se. Even if Nazis say something what could sound first as if it could be true - there is for sure something behind this "truth" no one likes really to know.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

He's a Christian. Christians don't live in fear of truth. Your are a Nazi. A Christian who would believe in anything what a Nazi says would be on the wrong way to Tipperary or any other place on Earth where's good to live. The Nazi-ideology (racism for example) leads everyone into death.

Overuse of the words Nazi, socialist & communism?

Left or right political spectrum is for me unimportant. And I'm also not thinking because someone is using a word like "antfascist" he is not a Nazi - or someone who speaks in the name of god is really a Jew, Christian or Muslim. You are fighting against the nature of the unalienable human rights - you are fighting against your own better knowledge for racism and mass-murder. What you "know" about 'science' is in most cases without real base. No doubt - you are a Nazi.

Give me some examples of how I remind you of Nazi's. Because if I'm not mistaken, they were mostly Catholics.

Wrong song, Arier.

 

[PostmodernProph]

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Erastosthenes presented about 2300 years ago all known facts why the Earth is a globe. The knowledge itselve was older. He calculated the circumference of the Earth is 50 times the distance between Assuan and Alexandria. (= 835 km = 519 mi). 519 *50 = 25950 mi. For the first approximation this was very good.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge.

What's wrong. Nicolaus Copernicus for example was a catholic capitular or Max Plank for example was a protestant. Both men believed in god.

Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

You are a Nazi. The Nazis "teached" for example the sun is a special form of iceberg. No joke. No one is able to make Nazis dump. Nazis are dumpness per se. Even if Nazis say something what could sound first as if it could be true - there is for sure something behind this "truth" no one likes really to know.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

He's a Christian. Christians don't live in fear of truth. Your are a Nazi. A Christian who would believe in anything what a Nazi says would be on the wrong way to Tipperary or any other place on Earth where's good to live. The Nazi-ideology (racism for example) leads everyone into death.

Overuse of the words Nazi, socialist & communism?

Left or right political spectrum is for me unimportant. And I'm also not thinking because someone is using a word like "antfascist" he is not a Nazi - or someone who speaks in the name of god is really a Jew, Christian or Muslim. You are fighting against the nature of the unalienable human rights - you are fighting against your own better knowledge for racism and mass-murder. What you "know" about 'science' is in most cases without real base. No doubt - you are a Nazi.

Give me some examples of how I remind you of Nazi's. Because if I'm not mistaken, they were mostly Catholics.

yeah.....you're mistaken.........

 

[sealybobo]

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Erastosthenes presented about 2300 years ago all known facts why the Earth is a globe. The knowledge itselve was older. He calculated the circumference of the Earth is 50 times the distance between Assuan and Alexandria. (= 835 km = 519 mi). 519 *50 = 25950 mi. For the first approximation this was very good.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge.

What's wrong. Nicolaus Copernicus for example was a catholic capitular or Max Plank for example was a protestant. Both men believed in god.

Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

You are a Nazi. The Nazis "teached" for example the sun is a special form of iceberg. No joke. No one is able to make Nazis dump. Nazis are dumpness per se. Even if Nazis say something what could sound first as if it could be true - there is for sure something behind this "truth" no one likes really to know.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

He's a Christian. Christians don't live in fear of truth. Your are a Nazi. A Christian who would believe in anything what a Nazi says would be on the wrong way to Tipperary or any other place on Earth where's good to live. The Nazi-ideology (racism for example) leads everyone into death.

Overuse of the words Nazi, socialist & communism?

Left or right political spectrum is for me unimportant. And I'm also not thinking because someone is using a word like "antfascist" he is not a Nazi - or someone who speaks in the name of god is really a Jew, Christian or Muslim. You are fighting against the nature of the unalienable human rights - you are fighting against your own better knowledge for racism and mass-murder. What you "know" about 'science' is in most cases without real base. No doubt - you are a Nazi.

Give me some examples of how I remind you of Nazi's. Because if I'm not mistaken, they were mostly Catholics.

yeah.....you're mistaken.........

Explain to me the time frame when the German people stopped being Catholics and when they started being Catholics again.

Like, in 1935 were they all god fearing Catholics and then before WW2 they stopped? Then in 1946 did they go back to being Catholics? LOL.

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

1. There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the Bible concerning the existence of a god. Any ‘evidence’ proposed by theists to support the Bible’s various historical and supernatural claims is non-existent at best, manufactured at worst.
2. The Bible is not self-authenticating; it is simply one of many religious texts. Like those other texts, it itself constitutes no evidence for the existence of a god. Its florid prose and fanciful content do not legitimise it nor distinguish it from other ancient works of literature.
   
   The Bible is historically inaccurate, factually incorrect, inconsistent and contradictory. It was artificially constructed by a group of men in antiquity and is poorly translated, heavily altered and selectively interpreted. Entire sections of the text have been redacted over time.
   
   Biblical Jesus was real.
3. There is no contemporary evidence for Jesus’ existence or the Bible’s account of his life; no artefacts, dwellings, works of carpentry, self-written manuscripts, court records, eyewitness testimony, official diaries, birth records, reflections on his significance or written disputes about his teachings. Nothing survives from the time in which he is said to have lived.
   
   All historical references to Jesus derive from hearsay accounts written decades or centuries after his supposed death. These historical references generally refer to early Christians rather than a historical Jesus and, in some cases, directly contradict the Gospels or were deliberately manufactured.
   
   The Gospels themselves contradict one-another on many key events and were constructed by unknown authors up to a century after the events they describe are said to have occurred. They are not eyewitness accounts. The New Testament, as a whole, contains many internal inconsistencies as a result of its piecemeal construction and isfactually incorrect on several historical claims, such as the early existence of Nazareth, the reign of Herod and the Roman census. Like the Old Testament, it too has had entire books and sections redacted.
   
   The Biblical account of Jesus has striking similarities with other mythologies and textsand many of his supposed teachings existed prior to his time. It is likely the character was either partly or entirely invented by competing first century messianic cults from an amalgamation of Greco-Roman, Egyptian and Judeo-Apocalyptic myths and prophecies.
   
   Even if Jesus’ existence could be established, this would in no way validate Christian theology or any element of the story portrayed in the Bible, such as the performance of miracles or the resurrection. Simply because it is conceivable a heretical Jewish preacher named Yeshua lived circa 30 AD, had followers and was executed, does not imply the son of a god walked the Earth at that time.
   
   The motivation for belief in a divine, salvational Jesus breaks down when you accept evolution:
   
   “Now, if the book of Genesis is an allegory, then sin is an allegory, the Fall is an allegory and the need for a Savior is an allegory – but if we are all descendants of an allegory, where does that leave us? It destroys the foundation of all Christian doctrine—it destroys the foundation of the gospel.” – Ken Ham
   

 

[peach174]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

1. There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the Bible concerning the existence of a god. Any ‘evidence’ proposed by theists to support the Bible’s various historical and supernatural claims is non-existent at best, manufactured at worst.
2. The Bible is not self-authenticating; it is simply one of many religious texts. Like those other texts, it itself constitutes no evidence for the existence of a god. Its florid prose and fanciful content do not legitimise it nor distinguish it from other ancient works of literature.
   
   The Bible is historically inaccurate, factually incorrect, inconsistent and contradictory. It was artificially constructed by a group of men in antiquity and is poorly translated, heavily altered and selectively interpreted. Entire sections of the text have been redacted over time.
   
   Biblical Jesus was real.
3. There is no contemporary evidence for Jesus’ existence or the Bible’s account of his life; no artefacts, dwellings, works of carpentry, self-written manuscripts, court records, eyewitness testimony, official diaries, birth records, reflections on his significance or written disputes about his teachings. Nothing survives from the time in which he is said to have lived.
   
   All historical references to Jesus derive from hearsay accounts written decades or centuries after his supposed death. These historical references generally refer to early Christians rather than a historical Jesus and, in some cases, directly contradict the Gospels or were deliberately manufactured.
   
   The Gospels themselves contradict one-another on many key events and were constructed by unknown authors up to a century after the events they describe are said to have occurred. They are not eyewitness accounts. The New Testament, as a whole, contains many internal inconsistencies as a result of its piecemeal construction and isfactually incorrect on several historical claims, such as the early existence of Nazareth, the reign of Herod and the Roman census. Like the Old Testament, it too has had entire books and sections redacted.
   
   The Biblical account of Jesus has striking similarities with other mythologies and textsand many of his supposed teachings existed prior to his time. It is likely the character was either partly or entirely invented by competing first century messianic cults from an amalgamation of Greco-Roman, Egyptian and Judeo-Apocalyptic myths and prophecies.
   
   Even if Jesus’ existence could be established, this would in no way validate Christian theology or any element of the story portrayed in the Bible, such as the performance of miracles or the resurrection. Simply because it is conceivable a heretical Jewish preacher named Yeshua lived circa 30 AD, had followers and was executed, does not imply the son of a god walked the Earth at that time.
   
   The motivation for belief in a divine, salvational Jesus breaks down when you accept evolution:
   
   “Now, if the book of Genesis is an allegory, then sin is an allegory, the Fall is an allegory and the need for a Savior is an allegory – but if we are all descendants of an allegory, where does that leave us? It destroys the foundation of all Christian doctrine—it destroys the foundation of the gospel.” – Ken Ham

Nice big long statement but you did not answer the question.

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

I already answered this.

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

1. There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the Bible concerning the existence of a god. Any ‘evidence’ proposed by theists to support the Bible’s various historical and supernatural claims is non-existent at best, manufactured at worst.
2. The Bible is not self-authenticating; it is simply one of many religious texts. Like those other texts, it itself constitutes no evidence for the existence of a god. Its florid prose and fanciful content do not legitimise it nor distinguish it from other ancient works of literature.
   
   The Bible is historically inaccurate, factually incorrect, inconsistent and contradictory. It was artificially constructed by a group of men in antiquity and is poorly translated, heavily altered and selectively interpreted. Entire sections of the text have been redacted over time.
   
   Biblical Jesus was real.
3. There is no contemporary evidence for Jesus’ existence or the Bible’s account of his life; no artefacts, dwellings, works of carpentry, self-written manuscripts, court records, eyewitness testimony, official diaries, birth records, reflections on his significance or written disputes about his teachings. Nothing survives from the time in which he is said to have lived.
   
   All historical references to Jesus derive from hearsay accounts written decades or centuries after his supposed death. These historical references generally refer to early Christians rather than a historical Jesus and, in some cases, directly contradict the Gospels or were deliberately manufactured.
   
   The Gospels themselves contradict one-another on many key events and were constructed by unknown authors up to a century after the events they describe are said to have occurred. They are not eyewitness accounts. The New Testament, as a whole, contains many internal inconsistencies as a result of its piecemeal construction and isfactually incorrect on several historical claims, such as the early existence of Nazareth, the reign of Herod and the Roman census. Like the Old Testament, it too has had entire books and sections redacted.
   
   The Biblical account of Jesus has striking similarities with other mythologies and textsand many of his supposed teachings existed prior to his time. It is likely the character was either partly or entirely invented by competing first century messianic cults from an amalgamation of Greco-Roman, Egyptian and Judeo-Apocalyptic myths and prophecies.
   
   Even if Jesus’ existence could be established, this would in no way validate Christian theology or any element of the story portrayed in the Bible, such as the performance of miracles or the resurrection. Simply because it is conceivable a heretical Jewish preacher named Yeshua lived circa 30 AD, had followers and was executed, does not imply the son of a god walked the Earth at that time.
   
   The motivation for belief in a divine, salvational Jesus breaks down when you accept evolution:
   
   “Now, if the book of Genesis is an allegory, then sin is an allegory, the Fall is an allegory and the need for a Savior is an allegory – but if we are all descendants of an allegory, where does that leave us? It destroys the foundation of all Christian doctrine—it destroys the foundation of the gospel.” – Ken Ham

Nice big long statement but you did not answer the question.

Because they had droughts where they witnessed what was once under water now above water. Don't make me explain every little thing that shocks and amazes simpletons. Nothing in the bible proves a god exists. Get over it. If it did why are their so many Jews and Muslims? You'll have an easier time convincing a Muslim or Jew than you will an atheist because at least they already believe in gods.

 

[sealybobo]

Or, ah, duh, they swam and unlike black people who don't like getting their hair wet they swam very deep.

 

[peach174]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

I already answered this.

You answered the question of how ancients knew the earth was round.
You never answered how they knew that the deep ocean floor had mountain and valleys.

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

You ignorant American christians make me laugh. Have you ever been ANYWHERE? I was in Greece once and we were having lunch at this restaurant right on the Mediteranian. When we got done eating we jumped in and you could see we were literally on a mountain. It was amazing. You could look down and see the mountain just kept on going. I'm sure it looked very similar 2800 years ago when Jonah said he lived in a whales body for 3 days.

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Today I was having breakfast and listening to some stupid hillbillies talking about abortion and what the bible says. Then it hits me just how far gone theists are. Where would I even begin with this woman? Doesn't she realize men wrote that book? Why do I care what guys 1500 years ago wrote about a guy 2000 years ago? Imagine if people 1500 years ago could come know what we know now. Do you think people today would swallow such stories? Actually 200 years ago a large segment of us swallowed the Joseph Smith story and Arabs swallow the Mohammad experience.

You're all swallowing a 2000 or 7000 year old story if you count the founders of our lie the Jews. Moses is a myth. Let's stop this nonsense. It's holding us back.

I don't believe what they said happened happened 2000 years ago. So stop telling me what your story book says. We don't buy it! So what other reasons do you think "we are the only animals on this planet that God made in his image"

That is what the woman in the restaurant said. What possibly would make her believe this? A 2000 year old story? Imagine how much smarter we are today than we were 2000 years ago. I really hope we aren't as dumb as we are now 2000 years from now

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

I already answered this.

You answered the question of how ancients knew the earth was round.
You never answered how they knew that the deep ocean floor had mountain and valleys.

They didn't know the earth was round. Some might have figured it out back then but it wasn't common knowledge. Knowing the ocean floors were like mountains was even easier to know than the earth is round.

 

[peach174]

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

1. There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the Bible concerning the existence of a god. Any ‘evidence’ proposed by theists to support the Bible’s various historical and supernatural claims is non-existent at best, manufactured at worst.
2. The Bible is not self-authenticating; it is simply one of many religious texts. Like those other texts, it itself constitutes no evidence for the existence of a god. Its florid prose and fanciful content do not legitimise it nor distinguish it from other ancient works of literature.
   
   The Bible is historically inaccurate, factually incorrect, inconsistent and contradictory. It was artificially constructed by a group of men in antiquity and is poorly translated, heavily altered and selectively interpreted. Entire sections of the text have been redacted over time.
   
   Biblical Jesus was real.
3. There is no contemporary evidence for Jesus’ existence or the Bible’s account of his life; no artefacts, dwellings, works of carpentry, self-written manuscripts, court records, eyewitness testimony, official diaries, birth records, reflections on his significance or written disputes about his teachings. Nothing survives from the time in which he is said to have lived.
   
   All historical references to Jesus derive from hearsay accounts written decades or centuries after his supposed death. These historical references generally refer to early Christians rather than a historical Jesus and, in some cases, directly contradict the Gospels or were deliberately manufactured.
   
   The Gospels themselves contradict one-another on many key events and were constructed by unknown authors up to a century after the events they describe are said to have occurred. They are not eyewitness accounts. The New Testament, as a whole, contains many internal inconsistencies as a result of its piecemeal construction and isfactually incorrect on several historical claims, such as the early existence of Nazareth, the reign of Herod and the Roman census. Like the Old Testament, it too has had entire books and sections redacted.
   
   The Biblical account of Jesus has striking similarities with other mythologies and textsand many of his supposed teachings existed prior to his time. It is likely the character was either partly or entirely invented by competing first century messianic cults from an amalgamation of Greco-Roman, Egyptian and Judeo-Apocalyptic myths and prophecies.
   
   Even if Jesus’ existence could be established, this would in no way validate Christian theology or any element of the story portrayed in the Bible, such as the performance of miracles or the resurrection. Simply because it is conceivable a heretical Jewish preacher named Yeshua lived circa 30 AD, had followers and was executed, does not imply the son of a god walked the Earth at that time.
   
   The motivation for belief in a divine, salvational Jesus breaks down when you accept evolution:
   
   “Now, if the book of Genesis is an allegory, then sin is an allegory, the Fall is an allegory and the need for a Savior is an allegory – but if we are all descendants of an allegory, where does that leave us? It destroys the foundation of all Christian doctrine—it destroys the foundation of the gospel.” – Ken Ham

Nice big long statement but you did not answer the question.

Because they had droughts where they witnessed what was once under water now above water. Don't make me explain every little thing that shocks and amazes simpletons. Nothing in the bible proves a god exists. Get over it. If it did why are their so many Jews and Muslims? You'll have an easier time convincing a Muslim or Jew than you will an atheist because at least they already believe in gods.

3,000 years ago people thought that the deep ocean floors were flat.
The Bible said it wasn't.

 

[peach174]

The people of 3000 years ago from the Bible knew that there was mountains and valleys deep in the ocean floor. They knew that the earth was round. How could ancient men know that way back then?

First, we didn't know the earth was round 3000 years ago.

Second, watch the cosmos. They explain how throughout history humans have discovered things like the earth is moving not in a fixed position and each time the churches and rulers stifled this knowledge. Even back during Plato's day, just before Christianity, they discovered science and math but they held it all back from the masses. Why? To keep us dumb.

They rather just keep feeding you a big lie and control you.

How did they know about the deep ocean sea floors?
The Bible explains both.

I already answered this.

You answered the question of how ancients knew the earth was round.
You never answered how they knew that the deep ocean floor had mountain and valleys.

They didn't know the earth was round. Some might have figured it out back then but it wasn't common knowledge. Knowing the ocean floors were like mountains was even easier to know than the earth is round.

The Bible says it was round.