As Go Tunisia and Egypt, So Goes US?

[AllieBaba]

Oh I'm sorry...I accidentally walked into the "Delusional Nutjobs Who Hate America and Americans" forum. Excuse me and carry on.

 

[georgephillip]

Um.....

You still haven't 'splained why they are coming here to get their own cars and jobs

Ginni Coefficients for starters

"This (Ginni) index measures the degree of inequality in the distribution of family income in a country.

"The index is calculated from the Lorenz curve, in which cumulative family income is plotted against the number of families arranged from the poorest to the richest.

"The index is the ratio of (a) the area between a country's Lorenz curve and the 45 degree helping line to (b) the entire triangular area under the 45 degree line.

"The more nearly equal a country's income distribution, the closer its Lorenz curve to the 45 degree line and the lower its Gini index, e.g., a Scandinavian country with an index of 25.

"The more unequal a country's income distribution, the farther its Lorenz curve from the 45 degree line and the higher its Gini index, e.g., a Sub-Saharan country with an index of 50.

"If income were distributed with perfect equality, the Lorenz curve would coincide with the 45 degree line and the index would be zero; if income were distributed with perfect inequality, the Lorenz curve would coincide with the horizontal axis and the right vertical axis and the index would be 100."

Mexico: 48.2 (2008)

US: 45.0 (2007)

I'm sure we'll catch up with Mexico shortly, and we can all hang out in Home Depot parking lots.

I assume that you don't understand your own "cut-and-paste" faux-answer to a relatively simple question. Not really much of a surprise.

I'll answer for you:

Mexicans are migrating to the USA because they have a much better chance to increase their wealth and standard of living.

Until they cease their migration, then you're absurd notions of Egyptian Style class warfare in the USA will remain rediculous.

What role does NAFTA play in Mexican migrations?

 

[Samson]

Ginni Coefficients for starters

"This (Ginni) index measures the degree of inequality in the distribution of family income in a country.

"The index is calculated from the Lorenz curve, in which cumulative family income is plotted against the number of families arranged from the poorest to the richest.

"The index is the ratio of (a) the area between a country's Lorenz curve and the 45 degree helping line to (b) the entire triangular area under the 45 degree line.

"The more nearly equal a country's income distribution, the closer its Lorenz curve to the 45 degree line and the lower its Gini index, e.g., a Scandinavian country with an index of 25.

"The more unequal a country's income distribution, the farther its Lorenz curve from the 45 degree line and the higher its Gini index, e.g., a Sub-Saharan country with an index of 50.

"If income were distributed with perfect equality, the Lorenz curve would coincide with the 45 degree line and the index would be zero; if income were distributed with perfect inequality, the Lorenz curve would coincide with the horizontal axis and the right vertical axis and the index would be 100."

Mexico: 48.2 (2008)

US: 45.0 (2007)

I'm sure we'll catch up with Mexico shortly, and we can all hang out in Home Depot parking lots.

I assume that you don't understand your own "cut-and-paste" faux-answer to a relatively simple question. Not really much of a surprise.

I'll answer for you:

Mexicans are migrating to the USA because they have a much better chance to increase their wealth and standard of living.

Until they cease their migration, then you're absurd notions of Egyptian Style class warfare in the USA will remain rediculous.

What role does NAFTA play in Mexican migrations?

It depends on the price of Tea in China

 

[georgephillip]

Oh I'm sorry...I accidentally walked into the "Delusional Nutjobs Who Hate America and Americans" forum. Excuse me and carry on.

Watch Out for Dogs and Razor Wire:

"The Nazis, for whom the Holocaust was as much a campaign of plunder as it was a campaign to rid Europe of Jews, had two methods for greeting arrivals at their four extermination camps. If the transports came from Western Europe, the savage Ukrainian and Lithuanian guards, with their whips, dogs and clubs, were kept out of sight.

"The wealthier European Jews were politely ushered into an elaborate ruse, including fake railway stations complete with flower beds, until once stripped naked they became incapable of resistance and could be herded in rows of five under whips into the gas chambers.

"The Nazis knew that those who had not been broken, those who possessed a belief in their own personal empowerment, would fight back.

"When the transports came from the east, where Jews had long lived in fear, tremendous poverty and terror, there was no need for such theatrics.

"Mothers, fathers, the elderly and children, accustomed to overt repression and the language of command and retribution, were brutally driven from the transports by sadistic guards. The object was to create mass hysteria. The fate of the two groups was the same.

"It was the tactic that differed."

Chris Hedges...

 

[Liability]

As Go Tunisia and Egypt, So Goes US?

ABSOLUTELY!

One day Americans will march in the streets to DEMAND a right to vote for their own leadership!







Oh. Wait.








Nope. Georgieporgie is merely an imbecile.

 

[georgephillip]

I assume that you don't understand your own "cut-and-paste" faux-answer to a relatively simple question. Not really much of a surprise.

I'll answer for you:

Mexicans are migrating to the USA because they have a much better chance to increase their wealth and standard of living.

Until they cease their migration, then you're absurd notions of Egyptian Style class warfare in the USA will remain rediculous.

What role does NAFTA play in Mexican migrations?

It depends on the price of Tea in China

Or the price of corn in Chiapas?

 

[georgephillip]

As Go Tunisia and Egypt, So Goes US?

ABSOLUTELY!

One day Americans will march in the streets to DEMAND a right to vote for their own leadership!







Oh. Wait.








Nope. Georgieporgie is merely an imbecile.

One day Americans will march in the streets to DEMAND an end to rich generals and other parasites plundering their economy.

Not hard to guess which side you'll be on.

Nutjob.

 

[Liability]

As Go Tunisia and Egypt, So Goes US?

ABSOLUTELY!

One day Americans will march in the streets to DEMAND a right to vote for their own leadership!







Oh. Wait.








Nope. Georgieporgie is merely an imbecile.

One day Americans will march in the streets to DEMAND an end to rich generals and other parasites plundering their economy.

Not hard to guess which side you'll be on.

Nutjob.

zzzzzzzzzz.

You are indeed a nutjob. Nice of you to sign your posts that way. Could be your very first sign of honesty.

Naturally, though, you have nothing but old, tired, stale "revolutionary" rhetoric to buttress your empty claim that "rich" generals and some alleged parasites are plundering the economy.

Morons like you don't even NOTICE when the President's notion of dealing with our unbelievable deficits is to "freeze" spending -- as though that will address the hemorrhage of red ink of over 1.5 TRILLION dollars per year.

Nah. A deficit running at 1.5 TRILLION dollars per year couldn't possibly "plunder" our economy, you moron.

 

[georgephillip]

Do You Work on Wall Street, Stupid?

"Obama seems to be campaigning for his own defeat!

"Thanks largely to the $13 trillion Wall Street bailout – while keeping the debt overhead in place for America’s 'bottom 98 per cent' – this happy 2 per cent of the population now receives an estimated three quarters (~75 per cent) of the returns to wealth (interest, dividends, rent and capital gains).

"This is nearly double what it received a generation ago. The rest of the population is being squeezed, and foreclosures are rising."

Obama's Greatest Betrayal

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

George seems to think money is supposed to be distributed like a monopoly game .

For thousands of years all governments have functioned to redistribute wealth by socializing cost and privatizing profit for a select few.

Much of the money the richest 1% of the US population has acquired in the last four decades came from Republicans AND Democrats redistributing national income, largely through tax biases that favor debt over equity investments.

You and Toto aren't playing board games in Kansas anymore, and the US rich will continue looting this country until they're dealt with like Mubarak and his sycophants.

Putting aside your lack of understanding of history and the purpose of government ,

You want a revolution so no one has any chance of bettering themselves .you are assigned a position, a station in life and that is it ,unless you are willing to shoot someone in the back of the head If you can get a gun ?

 

[whitehall]

"One cause of the revolts in Tunisia and Egypt is popular outrage over the monopolization of wealth by a small cadre of elites.

"The grievances of the Middle East's dispossessed probably seem justified to most Americans, who view the region as a relic of feudalism and stomping ground for despots.

"But what about America itself?

"As has been widely noted over the past few days, income inequality in the United States is actually much worse than in Egypt, Tunisia, or Pakistan.

"Could the US government feel the push of inequality's domino effect?

Comparative prosperity seems to argue otherwise since, as a group, America's poor have about as much wealth as India's richest.

"Yet those arguments neglect some of the major disadvantages of being modestly middle class in a wealthy country: A much higher cost of living and a perceived need to keep up with the Joneses, which fueled the explosion of subprime home loans that caused the recession.

"'Global unemployment remains at record highs, with widening income inequality adding to social strains,' Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the chief of the IMF, said this week during a speech in Singapore, citing turmoil in North Africa as a prelude to what may happen elsewhere.

"'We could see rising social and political instability within nations—even war.'"

And he wasn't referring to banana republics exclusively.

As Go Egypt...

Scary stuff isn't it? I think the radical American left would like nothing more than the violent overthrow of the government. That's where the threat has always been. While Bill Ayers and Van Jones were terrorizing the Country the leftie media was warning Americans about right wing militias and such. The Obama appointed fool of a Homeland Security agency secretary actually warned Americans about returning US Military Veterans being a threat to US security.

 

[mudwhistle]

Oh I'm sorry...I accidentally walked into the "Delusional Nutjobs Who Hate America and Americans" forum. Excuse me and carry on.

I thought every time an Obama supporter posts the forum becomes exactly that.

 

[georgephillip]

When the US dollar no longer functions as the world's reserve currency, hundreds of thousands of combat vets will return home to 17% un/under employment levels.

That should scare you a little more than Bill Ayres or Van Jones.

btw, it wasn't radical lefties that inflicted homicidal violence on Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Any attempt at violent overthrow of this government will come from those carrying Crosses in one hand and Old Glory in the other.

 

[mudwhistle]

"One cause of the revolts in Tunisia and Egypt is popular outrage over the monopolization of wealth by a small cadre of elites.

"The grievances of the Middle East's dispossessed probably seem justified to most Americans, who view the region as a relic of feudalism and stomping ground for despots.

"But what about America itself?

"As has been widely noted over the past few days, income inequality in the United States is actually much worse than in Egypt, Tunisia, or Pakistan.

"Could the US government feel the push of inequality's domino effect?

Comparative prosperity seems to argue otherwise since, as a group, America's poor have about as much wealth as India's richest.

"Yet those arguments neglect some of the major disadvantages of being modestly middle class in a wealthy country: A much higher cost of living and a perceived need to keep up with the Joneses, which fueled the explosion of subprime home loans that caused the recession.

"'Global unemployment remains at record highs, with widening income inequality adding to social strains,' Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the chief of the IMF, said this week during a speech in Singapore, citing turmoil in North Africa as a prelude to what may happen elsewhere.

"'We could see rising social and political instability within nations—even war.'"

And he wasn't referring to banana republics exclusively.

As Go Egypt...

Do these words and phrases sound familiar to you?

Solidarity
Workers of the world unit
Social Justice
Collective Salvation
Tranformational Figure
Hope and Change
New World Order
Power To The People


(kŏm'yə-nĭz'əm) pronunciation
n.

1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
2. Communism
1. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
2. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.


Communists, Fascists, Socialists, Progressives, and Marxists have changed their tone to become kinder and friendlier. But they're still the same and their goals are still the same.

Obama specialized at the University of Chicago in training revolutionaries into sounding more palatable to the masses. He felt is was better to sound kind and use flowery rhetoric instead of the old "In Your Face" rhetoric they used in the 60s.

 

[mudwhistle]

When the US dollar no longer functions as the world's reserve currency, hundreds of thousands of combat vets will return home to 17% un/under employment levels.

That should scare you a little more than Bill Ayres or Van Jones.

btw, it wasn't radical lefties that inflicted homicidal violence on Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Any attempt at violent overthrow of this government will come from those carrying Crosses in one hand and Old Glory in the other.

Oh, I see. The Tea Party is the real threat now.

 

[gekaap]

if you dont have irrational hatred for people who have more money than you, it really doesnt matter how much they have does it?

I highly doubt the people have been rioting because the rich have so much money.

Consider alternative interpretations.

What if it were instead a very rational irritation with policies and practices? What if certain policies and practices are harmful to the majority of people, with the only benefit being to a relatively select few who do not need any kind of special benefit? Isn't that at least just as likely an explanation as an alleged irrational hatred for people who have more money than one's self?

 

[gautama]

And yet when I talk about collapse of Government my shrink and my therapist tell me I am delusional.

Would it help if I told you you're delusional.

And, on this issue, would it help you to know that those who do NOT think you are delusional are delusional ?

 

[editec]

um...no.
As long as the TV still works, and fast food still exist - Americans are too otherwise occupied to notice much anything else.

What if the Federal Reserve turned every $10 bill in the country into a $5?

Or worse??

The USA economy would start recovering.

Assuming that you meant inflation, of course.

We need some.

 

[mudwhistle]

if you dont have irrational hatred for people who have more money than you, it really doesnt matter how much they have does it?

I highly doubt the people have been rioting because the rich have so much money.

They will if they start starving.

If the government takes all of our free cash and gives it away guess how upset we will be at the rich?

 

[mudwhistle]

um...no.
As long as the TV still works, and fast food still exist - Americans are too otherwise occupied to notice much anything else.

What if the Federal Reserve turned every $10 bill in the country into a $5?

Or worse??

The USA economy would start recovering.

Assuming that you meant inflation, of course.

We need some.

I'll tell you what.

Why don't we cut your pay by 50%.

Leave mine alone.

You want it so bad. Feel free.