Votto
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Naturally, you assume that being conservative I'm a racist and consumed with color of ones skin, hate Jews, and hate Catholics... But we later see the same confusion as Constantine decided to create a theocracy ...
Constantine made exactly the opposite. He introduced again the freedom of religion.
And a question: What is your personal reason for your unbelievable hate against Catholics and Jews?
"Naturally" I feel your hate like a very big stone in a landscape. And you are not conservative in my eyes.
Unbelievable, but that is what all stereotypical democrats
I have absolutelly nothing to do with the political party "the democrats" of the USA - nor do I have anything to do with the political party "the republicans" of the USA - although I am on my own as well a republican and a democrat.
think of those they don't see eye to eye with politically, much like a nervous reflex.
You speak with a walrus about the life of penguins now.
I hate none of them.
Sure. Hate is by the way no emotion. Hate is the will do destroy something so this destruction will be irreversible - or with other words: Hate makes someone to a slave of evilness and death.
As I said, Jesus was not Caucasian he was a Jew and my Lord and Savior.
Jesus is a Caucasian. And to reach Bethlehem is only a little distance. No need to try to find a lost heart where it was lost - go some miles through the Caucasus and you will reach Bethlehem, where your heart lies in a manger.
As for hating Catholics, I don't.
Nice. And who is the poor guy, who believes you?
I merely point out the toxic mix of politics and religion, a time when Popes told kings what to do.
And kings - and also plebs - told popes what to do. Conflicts between kings and bishops or popes and emperors are nothing else then the way in history to find the right form of separation of state and religion. And let me say: The Commies fro example lost this separation by making atheism to their state religion. And this danger of a state religion "atheism" is also existing in the USA.
During that time, there was a horrific oppression towards Jews,
What's in this "absolutistic" form a nonsense sentence - but I don't discuss this with idiots - that's you now - , who don't have any idea, what they try to speak about in this context. I am by the way a Catholic who has also Jewish ancestors. And if you like to say something to me about this theme then be aware to use an excellent knowledge in this context - anything else is a waste of time. I'm used to check out facts. Don't try to tell me lies.
or towards those who believed that the universe did not revolve around the earth,
What a luck that you don't have prejudices. It was by the way a Catholic clerics - Nikolaus Kopernikus - who found this out. And it was also a Catholic clerics - Georges Lemaitre - who found out that the universe expands. And for Christians it is absolutelly no problem to think to turn around god as the Earth turns around the sun - or to think the universe is a place where every point is always only in the middle of the universe - as we are in the middle of god and god is in the middle of us.
or pretty much any thinking that ran contrary to the PC police.
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Yea, some freedom under the statist
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Constantine who never even converted to Christianity.
Exactly. Emperor Constantin was a heathen. It is said his mother Helena and/or his wife Fausta had been Christians.
I reckon today it is preferable to get cancelled from society and lose your job for offending the PC left than it was to get burned at the stake, so maybe we are getting better at this.
You are totally weird. What do you say here? That you live in fear of what?
Again, I don't hate Catholics. In fact, I've known quite a few who seem to be very good Christians. But to turn a blind eye to the horrific abuses inflicted upon society that stemmed from the Catholic church is laughable. It is akin to Jesus calling the religious leaders during his day a brood of vipers and hypocrites. Did Jesus hate Jews? No. Did Jesus hate Judaism and the Temple? No. But to ignore the evil done in the name of God and religion conducted by those Jewish religious leaders was intolerable, because people look at it and think God is like that. Christ hated the hypocrisy and evil done in the name of God and so should you. So as we see, some hate is needed to be good. Hating evil is a requirement to be holy.
So what abuses that I am about to list do you think never happened?
1. In 337 Christian Emperor Constantius created a law which made the marriage of a Jewish man to a Christian punishable by death
2. In 380 the bishop of Milan was responsible for the burning of Synagogues.
3. In 415 the Bishop of Alexandria, St. Cyril, expelled the Jews from the city.
4. In 551 the bishop of Uzes expelled Jews from his diocese in France
5. In Spain in 613, Jews were given the option of either converting to Christianity or have they children taken from them and given a Christian education.
6. In 1099 Crusaders forced all of the Jews in Jerusalem into a central synagogue and set fire to it.
7. In 1146 the Second Crusade began. A French monk, Rudolf, called for the destruction of the Jews.
8. In 1215, the Fourth Lateran Council approved cannon laws requiring that Jews and Muslims should wear a special dress. They also had to wear a badge in the form of a ring so they could be distinguished from Christians, so they could be treated accordingly.
9. In 1227 the Synod of Narbonne required Jews to wear an oval badge, which was later reinstated by the Nazi regime.
10. In 1267, the Synod of Veinna ordered Jews to wear horned hats. Thomas Aquinas said that Jews should live in perpetual servitude.
11. In 1478, many Jews had converted to Christianity due to severe persecution from the church. The Spanish Inquisition was set up by the church in order to detect insincere conversions. I'll give you two guesses what happened to them if they were found to be insincere. Then laws were passed that prohibited the descendants of Jews or Muslims from attending a university, joining religious orders, or entering a long list of professions, even if they had converted to Christianity.
12. In 1555, a Roman Catholic Papal bull, ":Cum nimis absurdum", required Jews to wear badges and live in ghettos. They were not allowed to own property outside the ghetto. Living conditions were dreadful as 3,000 people were forced to live on about 8 acres of land.
I could go on, but why? I could have mentioned the countless pogroms that caused many Jews to be murdered. In short, everything that was done to Jews by Nazi Germany had already been done to the Jews by the Catholic church, only, on a much larger scale.
Speaking of Nazi Germany, the Catholic church refused to condemn the Holocaust publicly. Why? Condemning the Holocaust would have presented a big nightmare to the Third Reich because of the Christian influence of Germany over the years, but they refused to do so in order to save their precious Vatican and the treasures therein. It also saved their own necks as they all would have been rounded up and shot. But how many Jews could have been saved had they done just that? And what a wonderful example of courage of doing the right thing, despite the martyrdom that would have followed. It would have been a wonderful testimony to the rest of the world for Christ.
But today, they are no different. Even though abortion is considered mass genocide, they don't go around condemning it publicly. Instead, the Pope goes around giving sermons on the evils of building walls, a clear shot at Trump, and how they will all go to hell, or some such nonsense. They seem to be more interested in appeasing Left wing worldly governments than pleasing God once again.
So either they need to change the doctrine that abortion is mass genocide, or they need to act like they have a pulse and some moral fiber.
Shrug, some things never change.
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