Fact Checking Kamala Harris

Vrenn said:
Been a conservative longer than you have been alive. I didn't abandon the GOP, it abandoned me.

Read this to see what a real Republican is all about

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I read you've been full of BS longer than I've been alive. In context, the only statement worse than a leftist declaring they're "non-partisan" is a leftist declaring they're conservative. Read my signature, it's accurate.

And try using your head instead. The Demonicrats controlled both houses in 1956, yet blame their short-comings on a POTUS. Leftists do that often, somehow they missed their Govt. and logic classes.
 
HikerGuy83 said:
Don't hold your breath.

Take the 2025 statement.

It's one of the few things they hold to. Even though it's utter bulls**t. They have little else to talk about.

"We are not going back" Right....inflation is still increasing.
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There is no LIE Democrats won't tell to steal an election. No LIE Democrats won't tell the American people. Dems are possibly the most dishonest party that's ever existed.
 
IDIOCRACY said:
Kamala Harris, 09/10/2024 Debate – Fact Check

Qualifying Criterions: Kamala’s response is a lie, dishonest, intellectually dishonest, and/or refused to respond to a clear question. Please advise if anything missed, this is intended to be complete.

  • In response to the question of which economy was better, four years under Trump, or that under Biden/Kamala’s term.
  • 1A. Kamala spoke for two minutes narrating what she was going to do, but failed to answer a direct question.
  • 1B. Kamala said Trump’s plan is a 20% tax on imports. FACTS: The tariffs are already in effect and the percentages charged on imports vary. More importantly, the Biden/Kamala administration did not remove “Trump’s tariffs”, and some tariffs have increased under the Biden/Kamala administration.
  • 1C. Kamala said Trump left us the highest unemployment rate since the great depression. FACTS: The unemployment rate in December 2020 was on the decrease, at 6.7%. Which was the highest unemployment rate since the Obama administration. By comparison, the country has recovered from COVID, yet unemployment is on the increase, currently 4.2%.
  • 1D. Kamala said Trump left us the worst pandemic in a century. FACTS: Did he leave the same throughout the world too?
  • 1E. Kamala said Trump’s attack on our democracy was the worst since the Civil War. FACTS: Unproven, but incidentally, Kamala was installed into the general election without one.
  • 1F. Kamala was asked why the Biden/Kamala administration didn’t remove “Trump’s tariffs”. She did not respond to a direct question.
  • 1G. Kamala said Trump sold our chips to China to improve their military. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • 1H. Kamala said, “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again”. FACTS: Unsupported, Trump is not associated with 2025, and has openly rejected 2025.
  • In response to the question of abortion:
  • 2A. Note the moderators piped in to say that no State allows for abortions into the ninth month. FACTS: Trump didn’t say they did. He said some Democrats have said they support it.
  • 2B. Kamala said Trump will outlaw abortion nationally, under “2025”. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump’s not affiliated with “2025”, and abortion laws reside at the State level.
  • 2C. Kamala said Trump does not support IVF. FACTS: Trump’s stated multiple times he supports IVF, including “Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is vowing to force health insurance companies or the federal government to pay for IVF”.
  • In response to the question of justice:
  • 3A. Kamala said Pence called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • 3B. Kamala said Trump will terminate the Constitution of the United States. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • In response to the accusation Kamala changed her position on fracking:
  • 4A. Kamala said she’s always supported fracking. FACTS: Kamala opposed fracking advocating for a ban during her 2019 presidential bid.
  • 4B. Kamala said under Biden/Kamala, domestic oil production has seen the largest increase in history. FACTS: Baloney. U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)
  • In response to January 6th:
  • 5A. Kamala said Trump incited a violent mob to attack the nation’s Capitol. FACTS: Repetitive false narration, and in fact, Trump called for peace before and during the event.
  • 5B. Kamala said Trump said there were fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville incident, selling a racist narrative. FACTS: Trump said “You also had some very fine people on both sides”.
  • 5C. Kamala said Trump said there will be a bloodbath if the outcome of the election is not to his liking. FACTS: Trump said there will be a bloodbath if Biden is reelected, referring to energy industries.
  • In response to the question of the Israeli conflicts:
  • 6A. Kamala said it’s well known Trump is weak and wrong on foreign affairs. FACTS: Unsupported. The facts show Trump demonstrated the opposite.
  • 6B. Kamala said it’s well known Trump has love affairs with dictators. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • 6C. Kamala said Trump said he’d become a dictator on day one. FACTS: Trump’s statement is being taken out of context. Trump talks a lot of smack, this is called an exaggeration, it’s not a declaration as Kamala presents it.
  • 6D. Kamala said Trump said Putin can do whatever he wants. Partially true, but again, taken out of context. Once again Trump was talking smack, he’s an entertainer. “NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”
  • 6E. Kamala said it’s well-known Trump and “the little rocket-man☺” exchange love letters. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • 6F. Kamala said it’s very well-known all these dictators are supporting Trump. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump was the only POTUS to visit little rocket’s country, perhaps he supports Trump? wars aren’t fun. Putin has stated he supports the Democrats.
  • 6G. Kamala said dictators manipulate Trump. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • In response to the question of Harris’ race:
  • 7A. Kamala said it’s a tragedy Trump wants to be POTUS, as he has made it a career to consistently use race to divide the American people. FACTS: Aint that rich?
  • 7B. Kamala said Trump is lying, she’s not supporting taking anyone’s guns away,. FACTS:
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With a username like IDIOCRACY, one might expect crap posts. HOWEVER, this happens to be a terrific OP.

FACTS SCARE-away our liberals.
 
frigidweirdo said:
www.cbsnews.com

Trump is proposing a 10% tariff. Economists say that amounts to a $1,700 tax on Americans.

Former President Donald Trump is floating a 10% across-the-board tariff on all U.S. imports. But economists warn consumers would pay the price.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

"Former President Donald Trump is pledging to supercharge one of his signature trade policies — tariffs — if he's re-elected this November, by imposing 10% across-the-board levies on all products imported into the U.S. from overseas. "

www.politifact.com

Would Trump’s proposed tariffs be a $4,000 hit for families?

Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris said one of former President Donald Trump’s policy proposals — higher tari
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com

"Trump has proposed a 10% tariff (and at least once said up to 20%) on all nondomestic goods sold in the U.S., along with a 60% tariff on Chinese goods. "


"Trump's vow of 100% tariffs on nations that snub the dollar is a lose-lose for China and U.S., economist says"

So, he's said a lot of things about tariffs.

How much are tariffs now? Depends on the country, depends on the product etc.

That Trump is attacking China is kind of funny because Biden put a 100% tariff (actually a little more) on Chinese electric cars, but Trump was very inconsistent with his China policy during his time. The first two years he was pro-China, then became anti-China, all the while people wondering when he'd change his stance on things.

Trump wants to put tariffs on goods with the EU, for example. He had a steel tariff war with the EU the first time around. All this does is make the US have less friends at a time when it needs more.

Really Trump is shouting "tariffs" like he wants to increase tariffs. If he says he wants 10% tariffs on everything, then what does this actually mean to anyone? Who would suffer?

The US has 20 countries in a duty free system.

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With which countries does the United States have an FTA?​

There are 14 U.S. free trade agreements in force with 20 countries: Australia, Bahrain, Chile, Colombia, Israel, Jordan, Korea, Morocco, Oman, Panama, Peru, Singapore; DR-CAFTA (Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, & Nicaragua); and NAFTA (Canada & Mexico)"

Which means he'd just stick tariffs on these countries, and what would the impact be? With Canada it'd be a huge problem, and with Mexico too.

But we all know Trump shouts something he thinks will sound good. Then he'll get into government and he won't do it.

Like his "Muslim ban" designed to protect the US, but did NOT include a single country that was represented by the 9/11 attackers... hmmm....
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People will purchase the reliable vehicle at the most economical price. The American Auto Industry has had many loyal people who purchased their vehicles, and they ended up giving them the finger over the years. The men who like trucks keep the American industry alive.
 
Somone needs to take that smug look off Kamala's face. She knows she has the Democrats in her back pocket and she can get away with almost anything. She is a HORRIBLE choice for president.
 
IDIOCRACY said:
Kamala Harris, 09/10/2024 Debate – Fact Check

Qualifying Criterions: Kamala’s response is a lie, dishonest, intellectually dishonest, and/or refused to respond to a clear question. Please advise if anything missed, this is intended to be complete.

  • In response to the question of which economy was better, four years under Trump, or that under Biden/Kamala’s term.
  • 1A. Kamala spoke for two minutes narrating what she was going to do, but failed to answer a direct question.
  • 1B. Kamala said Trump’s plan is a 20% tax on imports. FACTS: The tariffs are already in effect and the percentages charged on imports vary. More importantly, the Biden/Kamala administration did not remove “Trump’s tariffs”, and some tariffs have increased under the Biden/Kamala administration.
  • 1C. Kamala said Trump left us the highest unemployment rate since the great depression. FACTS: The unemployment rate in December 2020 was on the decrease, at 6.7%. Which was the highest unemployment rate since the Obama administration. By comparison, the country has recovered from COVID, yet unemployment is on the increase, currently 4.2%.
  • 1D. Kamala said Trump left us the worst pandemic in a century. FACTS: Did he leave the same throughout the world too?
  • 1E. Kamala said Trump’s attack on our democracy was the worst since the Civil War. FACTS: Unproven, but incidentally, Kamala was installed into the general election without one.
  • 1F. Kamala was asked why the Biden/Kamala administration didn’t remove “Trump’s tariffs”. She did not respond to a direct question.
  • 1G. Kamala said Trump sold our chips to China to improve their military. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • 1H. Kamala said, “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again”. FACTS: Unsupported, Trump is not associated with 2025, and has openly rejected 2025.
  • In response to the question of abortion:
  • 2A. Note the moderators piped in to say that no State allows for abortions into the ninth month. FACTS: Trump didn’t say they did. He said some Democrats have said they support it.
  • 2B. Kamala said Trump will outlaw abortion nationally, under “2025”. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump’s not affiliated with “2025”, and abortion laws reside at the State level.
  • 2C. Kamala said Trump does not support IVF. FACTS: Trump’s stated multiple times he supports IVF, including “Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is vowing to force health insurance companies or the federal government to pay for IVF”.
  • In response to the question of justice:
  • 3A. Kamala said Pence called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • 3B. Kamala said Trump will terminate the Constitution of the United States. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • In response to the accusation Kamala changed her position on fracking:
  • 4A. Kamala said she’s always supported fracking. FACTS: Kamala opposed fracking advocating for a ban during her 2019 presidential bid.
  • 4B. Kamala said under Biden/Kamala, domestic oil production has seen the largest increase in history. FACTS: Baloney. U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)
  • In response to January 6th:
  • 5A. Kamala said Trump incited a violent mob to attack the nation’s Capitol. FACTS: Repetitive false narration, and in fact, Trump called for peace before and during the event.
  • 5B. Kamala said Trump said there were fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville incident, selling a racist narrative. FACTS: Trump said “You also had some very fine people on both sides”.
  • 5C. Kamala said Trump said there will be a bloodbath if the outcome of the election is not to his liking. FACTS: Trump said there will be a bloodbath if Biden is reelected, referring to energy industries.
  • In response to the question of the Israeli conflicts:
  • 6A. Kamala said it’s well known Trump is weak and wrong on foreign affairs. FACTS: Unsupported. The facts show Trump demonstrated the opposite.
  • 6B. Kamala said it’s well known Trump has love affairs with dictators. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • 6C. Kamala said Trump said he’d become a dictator on day one. FACTS: Trump’s statement is being taken out of context. Trump talks a lot of smack, this is called an exaggeration, it’s not a declaration as Kamala presents it.
  • 6D. Kamala said Trump said Putin can do whatever he wants. Partially true, but again, taken out of context. Once again Trump was talking smack, he’s an entertainer. “NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”
  • 6E. Kamala said it’s well-known Trump and “the little rocket-man☺” exchange love letters. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • 6F. Kamala said it’s very well-known all these dictators are supporting Trump. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump was the only POTUS to visit little rocket’s country, perhaps he supports Trump? wars aren’t fun. Putin has stated he supports the Democrats.
  • 6G. Kamala said dictators manipulate Trump. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • In response to the question of Harris’ race:
  • 7A. Kamala said it’s a tragedy Trump wants to be POTUS, as he has made it a career to consistently use race to divide the American people. FACTS: Aint that rich?
  • 7B. Kamala said Trump is lying, she’s not supporting taking anyone’s guns away,. FACTS:
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And you ignore the 33-lies told by Cheeto Benito. She is not lie, you guy lives to lie
 
0311 said:
And you ignore the 33-lies told by Cheeto Benito. She is not lie, you guy lives to lie
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Wow, you sound so intelligent too. Sign me up for some stunted growth man, I'm with you.
 
Freedomisneverfree said:
Somone needs to take that smug look off Kamala's face. She knows she has the Democrats in her back pocket and she can get away with almost anything. She is a HORRIBLE choice for president.
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Yeah.

Who voted for her, anyway?

(Other than Obama and Clooney, I mean.)
 
0311 said:
Watch Daniel Dale Fact Check Trump's False Debate Claims.

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I stopped watching when the turnip said that no, the 800K are not recovery jobs, and then said they're "millions higher". So the guy fucking lied to share a narration that Trump lied, what fucking good is that? That's the problem with your left "fact-checks", I've never seen one that isn't a fraud, because they don't exist.

You should send your little buddy a link to this thread.
 
IDIOCRACY said:
I read you've been full of BS longer than I've been alive. In context, the only statement worse than a leftist declaring they're "non-partisan" is a leftist declaring they're conservative. Read my signature, it's accurate.

And try using your head instead. The Demonicrats controlled both houses in 1956, yet blame their short-comings on a POTUS. Leftists do that often, somehow they missed their Govt. and logic classes.
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So you refuse to learn of the GOP's history. That means that you are NOT a Republican but a MAGAt. Sit back and enjoy the ride.


So you refuse to examine the GOP's history. That means that you are NOT a Republican but a MAGAt. Keep playg
 
Vrenn said:
So you refuse to learn of the GOP's history. That means that you are NOT a Republican but a MAGAt. Sit back and enjoy the ride.


So you refuse to examine the GOP's history. That means that you are NOT a Republican but a MAGAt. Keep playg
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Man, you really got your panties all bunched up Vrenn.
 
IDIOCRACY said:
Kamala Harris, 09/10/2024 Debate – Fact Check

Qualifying Criterions: Kamala’s response is a lie, dishonest, intellectually dishonest, and/or refused to respond to a clear question. Please advise if anything missed, this is intended to be complete.

  • In response to the question of which economy was better, four years under Trump, or that under Biden/Kamala’s term.
  • 1A. Kamala spoke for two minutes narrating what she was going to do, but failed to answer a direct question.
  • 1B. Kamala said Trump’s plan is a 20% tax on imports. FACTS: The tariffs are already in effect and the percentages charged on imports vary. More importantly, the Biden/Kamala administration did not remove “Trump’s tariffs”, and some tariffs have increased under the Biden/Kamala administration.
  • 1C. Kamala said Trump left us the highest unemployment rate since the great depression. FACTS: The unemployment rate in December 2020 was on the decrease, at 6.7%. Which was the highest unemployment rate since the Obama administration. By comparison, the country has recovered from COVID, yet unemployment is on the increase, currently 4.2%.
  • 1D. Kamala said Trump left us the worst pandemic in a century. FACTS: Did he leave the same throughout the world too?
  • 1E. Kamala said Trump’s attack on our democracy was the worst since the Civil War. FACTS: Unproven, but incidentally, Kamala was installed into the general election without one.
  • 1F. Kamala was asked why the Biden/Kamala administration didn’t remove “Trump’s tariffs”. She did not respond to a direct question.
  • 1G. Kamala said Trump sold our chips to China to improve their military. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • 1H. Kamala said, “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again”. FACTS: Unsupported, Trump is not associated with 2025, and has openly rejected 2025.
  • In response to the question of abortion:
  • 2A. Note the moderators piped in to say that no State allows for abortions into the ninth month. FACTS: Trump didn’t say they did. He said some Democrats have said they support it.
  • 2B. Kamala said Trump will outlaw abortion nationally, under “2025”. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump’s not affiliated with “2025”, and abortion laws reside at the State level.
  • 2C. Kamala said Trump does not support IVF. FACTS: Trump’s stated multiple times he supports IVF, including “Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is vowing to force health insurance companies or the federal government to pay for IVF”.
  • In response to the question of justice:
  • 3A. Kamala said Pence called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • 3B. Kamala said Trump will terminate the Constitution of the United States. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
  • In response to the accusation Kamala changed her position on fracking:
  • 4A. Kamala said she’s always supported fracking. FACTS: Kamala opposed fracking advocating for a ban during her 2019 presidential bid.
  • 4B. Kamala said under Biden/Kamala, domestic oil production has seen the largest increase in history. FACTS: Baloney. U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)
  • In response to January 6th:
  • 5A. Kamala said Trump incited a violent mob to attack the nation’s Capitol. FACTS: Repetitive false narration, and in fact, Trump called for peace before and during the event.
  • 5B. Kamala said Trump said there were fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville incident, selling a racist narrative. FACTS: Trump said “You also had some very fine people on both sides”.
  • 5C. Kamala said Trump said there will be a bloodbath if the outcome of the election is not to his liking. FACTS: Trump said there will be a bloodbath if Biden is reelected, referring to energy industries.
  • In response to the question of the Israeli conflicts:
  • 6A. Kamala said it’s well known Trump is weak and wrong on foreign affairs. FACTS: Unsupported. The facts show Trump demonstrated the opposite.
  • 6B. Kamala said it’s well known Trump has love affairs with dictators. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • 6C. Kamala said Trump said he’d become a dictator on day one. FACTS: Trump’s statement is being taken out of context. Trump talks a lot of smack, this is called an exaggeration, it’s not a declaration as Kamala presents it.
  • 6D. Kamala said Trump said Putin can do whatever he wants. Partially true, but again, taken out of context. Once again Trump was talking smack, he’s an entertainer. “NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”
  • 6E. Kamala said it’s well-known Trump and “the little rocket-man☺” exchange love letters. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • 6F. Kamala said it’s very well-known all these dictators are supporting Trump. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump was the only POTUS to visit little rocket’s country, perhaps he supports Trump? wars aren’t fun. Putin has stated he supports the Democrats.
  • 6G. Kamala said dictators manipulate Trump. FACTS: Unsupported.
  • In response to the question of Harris’ race:
  • 7A. Kamala said it’s a tragedy Trump wants to be POTUS, as he has made it a career to consistently use race to divide the American people. FACTS: Aint that rich?
  • 7B. Kamala said Trump is lying, she’s not supporting taking anyone’s guns away,. FACTS:
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Just points out the blatant bias of ABC and their moderators. Harris wasn't fact checked even one time while Trump was fact checked four times and yet she told lies all night long.
 
IDIOCRACY said:
I read you've been full of BS longer than I've been alive. In context, the only statement worse than a leftist declaring they're "non-partisan" is a leftist declaring they're conservative. Read my signature, it's accurate.

And try using your head instead. The Demonicrats controlled both houses in 1956, yet blame their short-comings on a POTUS. Leftists do that often, somehow they missed their Govt. and logic classes.
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Actually, in that time period, it was the ultra right wingers that were undermining everything. from 1952 to 1960. McCarthy was in 1946 to 1955. You know, similar to one of your beliefs that there is a commie behind every door. The rest of Congress had enough of this fruitcake and froze him out. It doesn't matter if you are a Senator or not when they won't even tell you when and where the meetings are. He resigned lonely and broken.

From there, another group was created called the John Birch Society that has attempted to follow McCarthyism to the letter. It was created by a group of uber rich which was led by Robert W. Welch starting in 1958. Funny how one of the original financial backers was a person called Fred Trump. They tried to get seats on the 1962 Republican Bench but was thwarted by William F. Buckley Jr in the 1960 Republican Primary. What sad is, if you look at what you people are demanding, so did they except the Republicans had enough sense to send them packing. In 1960 there were over 100,000 JBS members but it went down after that. Let's see,

There was a commie behind every tree
They had a list of books to ban from libraries and schools
In order to work for the Feds, a loyalty test had to be passed.

There were a lot more comparative features between you MAGAts of today and the JBS of 1960. Until Reagan, the JBS was largely ignored. The problem was, in 1981, Bush SR. allow them in against many other republican members. And it took them 20 years but they did exactly what Buckley and others said they were trying to do. Then in 2015, one of their own decided to run for President. Yes, Donald was raised by a strict JBS taskmaster and learned to do it well. The problem with the JBSers is that they never were truthful about anything they were doing. Well, except for "Get us out of the UN" which even I supported. Well, I don't support us to blindly leave the UN but I do support modifying it more than a bit.

In actuality, the Dems and the Republicans, in 1956, varied very little on what they wanted. The Planks were almost the same in 1956. But Eisenhower could have run for God at that time and had a very good chance of being elected. The JBS vehemently was against the Eisenhower starting of the Civil Rights. They were against a lot of things that made sense in the 60s and 70s. To the JBS it was all a commie takeover.


So you can see that you aren't doing anything that the ultra right wingers and American Fascists haven't already tried and failed at.

We have no other option than to throw all of you back under the rocks you once were buried under. 2024 is that time.
 
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