Zone1 Aren't ALL posts/threads "bait"?

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

I looked up the definition of "bait thread"/"bait post". This is what I found.........

A bait thread is an online forum post or thread designed to provoke a reaction.

This is a chat website, where people post things to talk about, and yes, sometimes argue about.
So, aren't they ALL "bait threads"???? Why would someone post something on here and NOT expect a retorte or comment........bad, good, or indifferent?????

Doesn't make ANY sense what so ever, to shut down a post and deem it "closed because it's bait".

That's like a bar getting shut down due to the fact they serve alcohol!

 

[okfine]

I looked up the definition of "bait thread"/"bait post". This is what I found.........

A bait thread is an online forum post or thread designed to provoke a reaction.

This is a chat website, where people post things to talk about, and yes, sometimes argue about.
So, aren't they ALL "bait threads"???? Why would someone post something on here and NOT expect a retorte or comment........bad, good, or indifferent?????

Doesn't make ANY sense what so ever, to shut down a post and deem it "closed because it's bait".

That's like a bar getting shut down due to the fact they serve alcohol!

No, not all posts are bait posts.

I do think this OP is another whining post

 

[Meister]

I looked up the definition of "bait thread"/"bait post". This is what I found.........

A bait thread is an online forum post or thread designed to provoke a reaction.

This is a chat website, where people post things to talk about, and yes, sometimes argue about.
So, aren't they ALL "bait threads"???? Why would someone post something on here and NOT expect a retorte or comment........bad, good, or indifferent?????

Doesn't make ANY sense what so ever, to shut down a post and deem it "closed because it's bait".

That's like a bar getting shut down due to the fact they serve alcohol!

Start the thread in a forum other than a Zone 1 sub forum.
Easy peasy

 

[Yarddog]

I've often wondered about that. Someone makes a post then is full of outrage over the responses they get. (sometimes) It's mostly fake outrage

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Start the thread in a forum other than a Zone 1 sub forum.
Easy peasy

Doesn't answer my questions.

I thought "Zone 1" is for posting in, so people don't use "naughty words" and such. Am I wrong in understanding that?

A post made in "Zone 1" threads would not be up for "troll responses", if I understand the terms correctly, and from what I read online about them.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

No, not all posts are bait posts.

I do think this OP is another whining post

And YOU whining about it instead of giving an explanation and examples, are outside of your abilities??

 

[Meister]

Doesn't answer my questions.

I thought "Zone 1" is for posting in, so people don't use "naughty words" and such. Am I wrong in understanding that?

A post made in "Zone 1" threads would not be up for "troll responses", if I understand the terms correctly, and from what I read online about them.

Zone1 is for a civil discussion, not the in your face name calling for a desired in your face response.

 

[Meister]

• "Zone 1": Clean Debate Zone (CDZ) / Introduce Yourself (Welcome Threads) / The Lounge / Announcements / Race Relations-Racism / Religion and Ethics: Civil discourse is the focus here, regardless of topic matter. Constructive criticism and debate is the tone. No insulting, name calling, or putting down other posters. Consider it a lesson in Civics.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Zone1 is for a civil discussion, not the in your face name calling for a desired in your face response.

So, why would a post get closed down as "bait" if it had no responses yet? Or that it did have civil discussion?

Is it the poster that is doing the "naughty language" getting shut down, not the article?

What if the article itself has the language in it?

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

• "Zone 1": Clean Debate Zone (CDZ) / Introduce Yourself (Welcome Threads) / The Lounge / Announcements / Race Relations-Racism / Religion and Ethics: Civil discourse is the focus here, regardless of topic matter. Constructive criticism and debate is the tone. No insulting, name calling, or putting down other posters. Consider it a lesson in Civics.

I understand that, what I'm not understanding is why an article would get shut down that didn't have any replies to it.

I'm NOT trying to "start" something, I want to know. I don't learn if I don't ask questions. And yes, I know my questions annoy the **** out of people. But this is how I learn.

 

[Meister]

So, why would a post get closed down as "bait" if it had no responses yet? Or that it did have civil discussion?

Is it the poster that is doing the "naughty language" getting shut down, not the article?

What if the article itself has the language in it?

Dude, you can tell just the way the poster constructed his/her OP.
This isn't rocket science, and I know which thread you're talking about.
If that poster had just used the first half of his post, it would have been fine.
But.....he went on in the last half and threw in his editorial that created the bait.

You asked and I answered, if you can't see that, or disagree, that's fine.
It is what it is, and is why we have the zone1 rules.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Dude, you can tell just the way the poster constructed his/her OP.
This isn't rocket science, and I know which thread you're talking about.
If that poster had just used the first half of his post, it would have been fine.
But.....he went on in the last half and threw in his editorial that created the bait.

You asked and I answered, if you can't see that, or disagree, that's fine.
It is what it is, and is why we have the zone1 rules.

I read it, and there weren't any personal slams in it, no name calling, and no bad lauguage.
The poster was making a personal comment on what happened, with clean language.
Again, as I stated in another communication.........nobody can know what the rules are, if there aren't any specifications. Implication and generic standardizations do not work.
This is why I'm asking.

My mind deals in absolutes and logic, not abstracts.

 

[1srelluc]

Start the thread in a forum other than a Zone 1 sub forum.
Easy peasy

The whole Zone 1 thing needs to go away.....Easy peasy.

 

[EvMetro]

I looked up the definition of "bait thread"/"bait post". This is what I found.........

A bait thread is an online forum post or thread designed to provoke a reaction.

This is a chat website, where people post things to talk about, and yes, sometimes argue about.
So, aren't they ALL "bait threads"???? Why would someone post something on here and NOT expect a retorte or comment........bad, good, or indifferent?????

Doesn't make ANY sense what so ever, to shut down a post and deem it "closed because it's bait".

That's like a bar getting shut down due to the fact they serve alcohol!

Check this out:

Natural political discourse

The point of this thread is to establish what the most natural and honest political discourse is. Millions have died as a means of political discourse over the course of history, and continue to even to this day. We see ugly political rhetoric being used by the media and on this site, and many...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[BackAgain]

1. I assume everyone who posts has a reason to do so. It could be to elicit a response (which could be to get a laugh, an “amen” or to challenge some conventional thinking).

2. If the only thing you seek to elicit is a fiery & angry rejoinder, then that’s a different kind of bait.

 

[Meister]

I read it, and there weren't any personal slams in it, no name calling, and no bad lauguage.
The poster was making a personal comment on what happened, with clean language.
Again, as I stated in another communication.........nobody can know what the rules are, if there aren't any specifications. Implication and generic standardizations do not work.
This is why I'm asking.

My mind deals in absolutes and logic, not abstracts.

Absolutes? Stick with math.
Logic? I'm not seeing it.

His premise is wrong to begin with.

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Should I go on? The OP was being disingenuous with his premise in his editorial.
IT WAS A BAIT THREAD!

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

1. I assume everyone who posts has a reason to do so. It could be to elicit a response (which could be to get a laugh, an “amen” or to challenge some conventional thinking).

2. If the only thing you seek to elicit is a fiery & angry rejoinder, then that’s a different kind of bait.

Yeah, but you don't know what the person posting is expecting. Not everybody thinks the same way, not everybody feels the same words and phrases are "bad" or "good" as others might.

If someone doesn't use "bad words" in a post, then they have literally not broken the rule. Negative inuendo is NOT the same thing as outright word usage.

 

[Meister]

The whole Zone 1 thing needs to go away.....Easy peasy.

Not my call.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Absolutes? Stick with math.
Logic? I'm not seeing it.

His premise is wrong to begin with.

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His role in the misappropriation of welfare money has infuriated people in his native Mississippi and prompted some fans to call for his removal from the Hall of Fame.

www.nytimes.com

Brett Favre's involvement in Mississippi welfare scandal is getting plenty of attention. But what about companies that still back him?

Favre hasn't been charged with a crime. Federal authorities are involved and the FBI has questioned Favre. But how could anyone want to be tangentially associated with this?

sports.yahoo.com

Brett Favre: how a scandal in Mississippi tarnished an NFL hero

The former Green Bay quarterback won hearts as an ironman gunslinger. But a court case in his home state has created unwanted publicity

www.theguardian.com

John Davis, Figure in Brett Favre-Related Fraud Scandal, Pleads Guilty - Sports Illustrated

The former executive director pleaded guilty to two federal charges in the ongoing lawsuit for his role in the state’s welfare scandal.

www.si.com

Mississippi official pleads guilty in welfare scandal that involves Brett Favre

Mississippi doled out millions of dollars in federal welfare money to projects investigators now say were improper, including a new volleyball facility Favre requested.

www.cnbc.com

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The State of Mississippi is suing ex-NFL QB Brett Favre and others, alleging they misspent millions of dollars that had been allocated for welfare.

www.usatoday.com

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The purported text messages show Favre’s alleged involvement in the scheme.

www.forbes.com

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Mississippi doled out millions of dollars in federal welfare money to projects investigators now say were improper, including a new volleyball facility Favre requested.

www.nbcnews.com

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Should I go on? The OP was being disingenuous with his premise in his editorial.
IT WAS A BAIT THREAD!

And look what I had to go through to get this, when thats all you had to post to begin with.

 

[Rocko]

Bait, in internet speak means you start a conversation that you expect to go to the gutter.


Now, the issue I have is when someone has a difference of a opinion about thread, and they are accused of trolling. Why is a minority opinion labeled trolling?