Are you ashamed of your heritage?

[gipper]

He did no such thing

The south chose to secede and attacked a U.S. installation to start the war.

Lincoln saved the union and created THE UNITED STATES

Kill them to keep them. Thats your motto, like every tyrant in history.

 

[rightwinger]

Kill them to keep them. Thats your motto, like every tyrant in history.

The South waged war against the US

 

[longly]

Actually Abe advocated for reconciliation instead of revenge

If Lincoln had lived, we would most likely be in a much better place today—both the South and the nation as a whole, and race relations? But the North wanted revenge, and they got it, and we live with the consequences to this day. I say again: revenge is almost always a bad idea, at least for nations. By the way, the original plan was to kidnap Lincoln, which was considered militarily acceptable enough. The Union had even tried to do the same thing against Jefferson Davis and failed.

 

[longly]

The South waged war against the US

No, the South fought a war against the Union—that is, the North. The United States failed to continue as it had once the South pulled out. With half of the nation separating, the United States no longer existed in its original form. Unless you are an imperialist, or think like one, which the Unionists later became during the Spanish–American War. America’s relatively short imperialist era was conceived almost entirely in the North. Even though the South had rejoined the Union, it had little political power at that time.

 

[rightwinger]

If Lincoln had lived, we would most likely be in a much better place today—both the South and the nation as a whole, and race relations? But the North wanted revenge, and they got it, and we live with the consequences to this day. I say again: revenge is almost always a bad idea, at least for nations. By the way, the original plan was to kidnap Lincoln, which was considered militarily acceptable enough. The Union had even tried to do the same thing against Jefferson Davis and failed.

The South got off exceedingly light for their treason.

Those who took up arms against their country were allowed to vote, hold elected office, buy property.

Even more so, they were allowed to push Lost Cause historic revisionism that downplayed the role of slavery and made heroes of Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Jeff Davis while they attacked the legacy of Lincoln, Grant and Sherman

 

[rightwinger]

No, the South fought a war against the Union—that is, the North. The United States failed to continue as it had once the South pulled out. With half of the nation separating, the United States no longer existed in its original form. Unless you are an imperialist, or think like one, which the Unionists later became during the Spanish–American War. America’s relatively short imperialist era was conceived almost entirely in the North. Even though the South had rejoined the Union, it had little political power at that time.

What a twisted view of history

Of course the United States continued to exist and was recognized by the rest of the world.

The US maintained its Constitution, laws, currency and history

It was the Confederacy that built a nation where 40 percent of its population was in bondage.
Pure evil

 

[gipper]

The South waged war against the US

Lol.

 

[Mushroom]

Slave states were being added
That is what the Missouri Compromise did

Name one after Texas.

 

[rightwinger]

Lol.

The Confederacy attacked the US abase at Ft Sumter

An act of war

 

[Unkotare]

What a twisted view of history

Of course the United States continued to exist and was recognized by the rest of the world.

The US maintained its Constitution, laws, currency and history

It was the Confederacy that built a nation where 40 percent of its population was in bondage.
Pure evil

The so-called "Confederacy" was never a nation.

 

[otto105]

When my ancestors fought the Yankees during the War Between the States, they proved themselves to be some of the toughest people on Earth. Twenty-five percent of all military-age Southerners died or were crippled in the war. For Americans, that’s an astounding figure. If the Yankees had suffered those kinds of casualties, they would have been burning their cities. Of course, that’s opinion—there’s no way to really know—but I also have no reason to be ashamed of my ancestors. They weren’t traitors, and for the most part, they were good people doing the best they could in the world as they understood it. One reason they may have fought so desperately was because of the outcome they feared if they lost.

At the same time in Kansas, Jayhawkers were killing Southerners just for living in Missouri. There had also been numerous slave revolts in which enslaved people killed men, women, and children. In Haiti in 1804, the Black government exterminated most of the remaining French after the independence war. They spared some of the women who agreed to marry Black men. What can you call a forced marriage other than slavery? So, I have no reason to be ashamed. It seems that the left tries to make whites ashamed of being who they are, especially if they’re Southerners. I’m not ashamed, and I’m not fragile. If they want to talk about race, I’m willing to do it as honestly as I can.

Liberals also emphasize the reaction of whites after the war, but all the occupation did was reaffirm their beliefs. What would have happened if they didn’t resist? Union soldiers, even though it was not government policy, robbed, raped, and murdered Southerners, and their commanders did virtually nothing about it. On top of that, the army had a strict censorship program that prevented this information from being disseminated. If it had been published, it might have come to light that these were not large-scale abuses but rather infrequent actions by a minority of Black Union soldiers. Without reliable information, Southerners saw it as a large-scale attempt to humiliate and crush them. In my opinion, that is what led to resistance movements such as the Ku Klux Klan and Jim Crow later on. I still remember the old people talking about the need to keep the Blacks down or they’d murder us all.

It was called the Civil War for starters…

 

[gipper]

The so-called "Confederacy" was never a nation.

What an idiot. No wonder you’re a teacher.

God help your students!

 

[longly]

The so-called "Confederacy" was never a nation.

If you're a teacher, what do you teach? Hopefully not history—perhaps social studies, which is just a watered-down version of nothing. If you do teach history, have you taught your students how to analyze the causes of different events in history within the context of the times in which they happened?

 

[Unkotare]

If you're a teacher, what do you teach? ...

ESL, History, sometimes Biology.

 

[gipper]

If you're a teacher, what do you teach? Hopefully not history—perhaps social studies, which is just a watered-down version of nothing. If you do teach history, have you taught your students how to analyze the causes of different events in history within the context of the times in which they happened?

Whatever he ‘teaches’ please pray for his poor students.

 

[Unkotare]

Whatever he ‘teaches’ please pray for his poor students.

What do you teach?

 

[gipper]

What do you teach?

I tried to teach you, but you’re incapable of learning.

 

[Unkotare]

I tried to teach you...

No, you didn't. You're just here to play make-believe anarchist on the internet. You fail at even that.

 

[citygator]

Im a Florida Gator. My shame runs deep since the late 2000's.

 

[gipper]

No, you didn't. You're just here to play make-believe anarchist on the internet. You fail at even that.

Lol.