Are the McMichaels victims of a biased media?

Yes, because he is trying not to get shot. his life was threatened first. That's why the hillbillies are charged with murder.

Them calling him "fucking ******" is why they are charged with a federal hate crime.

Your kind of people, I guess.
Even blacks call each other Nigah....yet no believable evidene that Travis a decorated veteran of the Coast Guard did so......that was an allegation by roddy who was trying to ingratiate himself with the prosecutor.

Thus roddy has like you .........no credibility.
 
It is crystal clear what happened.

these two racist fucks saw him near a construction site and assumed the black guy was stealing. They saw an opportunity to play cop at the very least, and kill him at best. So they took it. And if their equally retarded friend had not caught it on video, the good ol' boys network would have protected these two murderers.
Obviously you do not know the facts of the case.

Gregory as has already been mentioned had been deputized to handle the problems in that neighborhood.

The video is proof that Travis acted in self defense.

There is nothing that happened before the shooting that justified ahmaud to attack Travis.
 
Liar. It's the reason they are charged with a hate crime. There will literally be police officers on the stand saying he said it. It is in their reports from the incident.

I see you are desperate and at the point where you are now flinging your own poo against the wall, hoping some of it sticks.

No it was not the police who made that claim...it was the disgraced roddy who made that up.
 
No it was not the police who made that claim...it was the disgraced roddy who made that up.

Not even to mention that uttering the infamous N-woid is not proof for a hate crime....blacks call each other the n woid all the time.

For proof of a actual hate crime the prosecutor would need to prove the killing was solely because ahmaud was black which is ridiculous.

Race played no role in this incident whatsoever....the Macs would have done everything the same even if the suspect had been white.

You have pre-judged this case because you bought into the hysterical MSM bullhockey.
 
Time and again we see how the media can bring pressure to indict someone when the local authorities found no reason to indict.

Why do states and or local government cave in to demands by the media?


Because they're hacks, and staying in office is their only purpose; they want to be good commissars and yes people.The fact they're intimidated by faggots, gimps, and thugs is of course clear evidence they're incompetent and unqualified.
 
And here is the fat racist hillbilly pointing his shotgun at Arbery:


I hate to be the one that has to tell you this...but Travis is standing on the other side of the Truck door and thus your claim is silly.


You're a fool. The McMichaels aren't cops. Are you an adult?

The well known phenomenon of 'suicide by cop' is the result of someone wanting to die and thus not having what it takes to kill themselves they do something to provoke a cop to kill them.

ahmaud was failiar with Gregory MacMichaels when he was a cop and may have thought he still was but irregardless he was a authority figure and he must have known also that Travis with the shotgun was apt to shoot him if he attacked him.

Then add into that ahmauds mental problem, his depression, anger, unhappiness etc. it is very likely he did not place much value on his life and thus may have decided to just end it all.
 
The well known phenomenon of 'suicide by cop' is the result of someone wanting to die and thus not having what it takes to kill themselves they do something to provoke a cop to kill them.

ahmaud was failiar with Gregory MacMichaels when he was a cop and may have thought he still was but irregardless he was a authority figure and he must have known also that Travis with the shotgun was apt to shoot him if he attacked him.

Then add into that ahmauds mental problem, his depression, anger, unhappiness etc. it is very likely he did not place much value on his life and thus may have decided to just end it all.


They weren’t cops. McMichaels Sr. had lost his power to arrest because he failed to take the required training. Jr. looks like a walking lobotomy. They were moron vigilantes who’s stupidity caused the death of an innocent man.
 
They weren’t cops. McMichaels Sr. had lost his power to arrest because he failed to take the required training. Jr. looks like a walking lobotomy. They were moron vigilantes who’s stupidity caused the death of an innocent man.
His power to arrest was restored....all this has been talked about already.

He went on to serve as a criminal investigator...before going into retirement he had a 30 yr. career in law enforcement.
His son had a career in the Coast Guard and served honorably not even to mention his saving of many lives whilst patrolling our coast in the service.



Yet you want to validate the worthless life of a criminal with mental issues....not surprising as you are just gobbling up what the media presents to you....a massive effort of propaganda designed to make ahmaud a saint whilst demonizing honest citizens trying to protect their neighborhood....despicable to say the least.

This whole scenario is eerily similar to that of the Zimmerman case....a powerful propaganda machine aka the MSM crusading to promote a worthless criminal, posting retouched photos in an attempt to make him look decent, massive effort to demonize the good guys....all that is missing is Obama saying if I had a son he would look oike ahmaud.

You do remember what you said about the Zimmerman case? You were wrong then and you are wrong again.

Some folks just never learn.
 
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His power to arrest was restored....all this has been talked about already.

He went on to serve as a criminal investigator...before going into retirement he had a 30 yr. career in law enforcement.
His son had a career in the Coast Guard and served honorably not even to mention his saving of many lives whilst patrolling our coast in the service.



Yet you want to validate the worthless life of a criminal with mental issues....not surprising as you are just gobbling up what the media presents to you....a massive effort of propaganda designed to make ahmaud a saint whilst demonizing honest citizens trying to protect their neighborhood....despicable to say the least.

This whole scenario is eerily similar to that of the Zimmerman case....a powerful propaganda machine aka the MSM crusading to promote a worthless criminal, posting retouched photos in an attempt to make him look decent, massive effort to demonize the good guys....all that is missing is Obama saying if I had a son he would look oike ahmaud.

You do remember what you said about the Zimmerman case? You were wrong then and you are wrong again.

Some folks just never learn.

You are right. Some folks never learn. We wonder what it will take to make you learn?

You keep mentioning Zimmerman. Odd. Wrong once and we are wrong about everything. But what about other cases? How about Drejka? He got 20 years for his “obviously self defense shooting.”


How about Chauvin? All the internet experts were rushing about screaming he would be exonerated. Where is he today?

Amber Guyger? Where is she?

You keep screaming the video. But why not watch all the videos? Like this one. It is the video of the court proceedings. The defense was trying to get the charges dismissed or failing that get bail.



Listen to the information the GBI had a year ago. About why the charges were filed. About why the Cops thought it was murder almost immediately.

Nah. That information might make you look stupid.
 

The Illusion of Certainty​

Ahmaud Arbery’s death was horrible—but was it racist?
by Coleman Hughes
The shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old black man from Georgia, has reignited the national debate about racial profiling. On February 23, Arbery entered an empty construction site in the city of Brunswick, lingering for several minutes before leaving. Shortly afterward, Gregory McMichael, a white ex-cop who lived down the street, noticed Arbery running. He grabbed his gun, enlisted his son Travis, and pursued.
After he and his father had chased Arbery in a truck for four minutes, Travis exited the driver’s side and confronted Arbery, shotgun in hand. The video of what followed, captured by William Bryan Jr., a neighbor aiding in the chase, leaves much to be desired. The beginning of the confrontation, when Travis fires his first shot, is completely ob
While it’s tempting to assume that the McMichaels were motivated by racism, the only intellectually honest position is to admit that we do not know what motivated them—at least, not yet. On the one hathat the McMichaels would not have pursued a white suspect under the same circumstances. On the other, contextual facts make the allegation of racism less compelling.
To start, there is a plausible, non-racist explanation for why the McMichaels pursued Arbery. An unidentified black man (it’s unclear if it was Arbery) had trespassed on the same construction site four times—once in October, November, December, and early February. The absentee homeowner caught these incidents on his motion-activated security camera. After the December incident, Gregory McMichael offered to help catch the serial trespasser. Local police subsequently texted the homeowner, advising him to reach out to McMichael “day or night” if he picked up motion on his security camera—the implication being that McMichael could respond faster than they could.
While McMichael’s eagerness to fight crime proactively might seem strange at first glance, it begins to make sense when you consider the crime problem facing Brunswick residents. Though commentators have mostly downplayed it, Brunswick is among the most crime-ridden cities in America. In 2018, the Brunswick crime rate was 6,311 crimes per 100,000 residents. For comparison, the crime rate in the Austin section of Chicago—which NBC news dubs Chicago’s “most dangerous neighborhood”—was 6,528 per 100,000; the U.S. national average was 2,580. What’s more, McMichael was not the only neighbor who offered to help. In November, Diego Perez, who lives next door to the construction site, texted the homeowner: “If you catch someone on your cameras, let me know right away, I can respond in mere seconds.”
Perhaps the McMichaels pursued Arbery solely because of racial bias. Or perhaps they pursued him because of their arrangement with local police, and with the homeowner, to respond immediately upon seeing the trespasser. Or perhaps their motives were mixed. Those who pretend to know with certainty what motivated the McMichaels are deceiving themselves.
In the rush to paint the McMichaels as racists, we have failed to discuss the real problems revealed by the Arbery incident. First and foremost, it is troubling that a police officer advised the homeowner to rely on McMichael, a civilian, to help catch a suspect. It is easy to see how an arrangement like this might encourage a civilian to behave like a vigilante, secure in the knowledge that local police condone his vigilantism. Second, the initial decision not to press charges against the McMichaels raises concerns about prosecutorial bias—though we do not know whether the McMichaels benefitted from being white or from the “blue wall of silence” that can come with being a former police officer.
Third, citizen’s arrest laws are fundamentally flawed: from the perspective of the arrestee, a citizen’s arrest can look no different from a mugging or kidnapping. Arbery, for example, had little reason to assume that the armed men chasing him had pure intentions; his decision to grab McMichael’s gun must be viewed in light of this fact. Moreover, civilians are not trained in de-escalation. If cops struggle to make peaceful arrests in tense situations, we should not be surprised that civilians struggle even more.
When all is said and done, it’s likely that the McMichaels, and perhaps Bryan, will do time for killing Arbery. Georgia’s citizen’s arrest law requires arrestors to have “immediate knowledge” of the misdemeanor in question. In one relevant case, a judge explained that “immediate knowledge” is a synonym for directly witnessing a crime with one’s own senses. Though the McMichaels might have seen video footage of a man who resembled Arbery trespassing on previous occasions, they did not physically witness him trespassing on the day of the shooting.
Regardless of how this particular case turns out, the problems with citizen’s arrest laws will remain. Such laws evolved in the Middle Ages—an era without organized police forces, telephones, cars, or cultures of widespread gun ownership. While citizen’s arrest laws remain an important component of public safety, we should bring them in line with modernity by placing stricter conditions on when such arrests can be made.
In a better world, Arbery’s death might have provoked a bipartisan movement to reform these laws. Instead, it has mainly been used to stoke fears of white supremacy.
People are prone to irrational fears—of everything from plane crashes to Satanic day-cares. Part of the media’s job is to assess these risks coolly and let the public know whether its fears are justified. On the issue of racism, the media have failed. “There are times when I wish that I could go for that walk, that jog, and feel absolutely at ease, free of worry,” philosopher Georgy Yancy opined in reaction to Arbery’s death. “But that would entail becoming white, and the price of that ticket is far too high.” Lebron James’s tweet—“We’re literally hunted EVERYDAY/EVERYTIME we step foot outside the comfort of our homes!”—received over 300,000 likes.
One need not dismiss legitimate concerns about racism to call this fearmongering. In 2019, nine unarmed black people, along with 19 unarmed white people, were shot dead by the police in the United States. That puts the typical person’s odds of getting killed by the cops while unarmed on par with his chances of being struck by lightning or killed by a jihadi. Yet while any celebrity who feared jihadist terror every time he left the house would rightly be dismissed as an alarmist, James is celebrated for such views.
This double standard can be attributed to a combination of white liberal guilt, which leads some to exaggerate racism, and a socially acceptable bigotry that holds black people to a lower standard while patting itself on the back for its antiracism.
We might wonder why the Arbery killing, among the roughly 14,000 homicides that happen in America every year, made its way into our news feeds. The reason: many who report the news are swept up in a moral panic about white supremacy. They promote stories that confirm their preexisting opinions and ignore stories that do not. That’s why people know Tamir Rice but not Daniel Shaver, a white man killed under similar circumstances. It’s why people remember Alton Sterling but not Dylan Noble. And it’s why the Ahmaud Arbery story achieved escape velocity from local news.
A life is a life, regardless of its color, and regardless of the color of the person who takes it. It’s hard to imagine a principle more important in America than this one—and more under threat from the prevailing passions of our time.
Coleman Hughes (@coldxman) is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and contributing editor of City Journal. His writing has appeared in Quillette, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, National Review, and the Spectator.
The MSM is a joke for sure. But with that said, the McMichaels are guilty as shit. That was no where near a citizens arrest. They unlawfully chased Arbery down with gu....ns and cornered him.
Nonsense....media bull shit....ahmaud was never cornered....ridiculous to claim that.

Ahmaud did not stop jogging until he attacked Travis...he had freedom of movement at all times.

But since you make this ridiculously stupid claim please inform the board what you would do to corner someone with your vehicle?

Maybe first of all you should define what you mean by cornered? Just to make sure we are on the same page boyo????

Regarding a citizen's arrest....Greg did say he intended to make a citizens arrest as he began the pursuit because he recognized ahmaud as he was jogging by his house from a video he had seen of trespassser and suspected burglar also he allegedly had previous contact with ahmaud back when he was still on the police force.

But irregardless....he never made a citizens arrest....nor did he even attempt to. Apparantly he changed his mind about that and decided to let the police handle it when they got there.
 
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The Illusion of Certainty​

Ahmaud Arbery’s death was horrible—but was it racist?
by Coleman Hughes
The shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old black man from Georgia, has reignited the national debate about racial profiling. On February 23, Arbery entered an empty construction site in the city of Brunswick, lingering for several minutes before leaving. Shortly afterward, Gregory McMichael, a white ex-cop who lived down the street, noticed Arbery running. He grabbed his gun, enlisted his son Travis, and pursued.
After he and his father had chased Arbery in a truck for four minutes, Travis exited the driver’s side and confronted Arbery, shotgun in hand. The video of what followed, captured by William Bryan Jr., a neighbor aiding in the chase, leaves much to be desired. The beginning of the confrontation, when Travis fires his first shot, is completely ob
While it’s tempting to assume that the McMichaels were motivated by racism, the only intellectually honest position is to admit that we do not know what motivated them—at least, not yet. On the one hathat the McMichaels would not have pursued a white suspect under the same circumstances. On the other, contextual facts make the allegation of racism less compelling.
To start, there is a plausible, non-racist explanation for why the McMichaels pursued Arbery. An unidentified black man (it’s unclear if it was Arbery) had trespassed on the same construction site four times—once in October, November, December, and early February. The absentee homeowner caught these incidents on his motion-activated security camera. After the December incident, Gregory McMichael offered to help catch the serial trespasser. Local police subsequently texted the homeowner, advising him to reach out to McMichael “day or night” if he picked up motion on his security camera—the implication being that McMichael could respond faster than they could.
While McMichael’s eagerness to fight crime proactively might seem strange at first glance, it begins to make sense when you consider the crime problem facing Brunswick residents. Though commentators have mostly downplayed it, Brunswick is among the most crime-ridden cities in America. In 2018, the Brunswick crime rate was 6,311 crimes per 100,000 residents. For comparison, the crime rate in the Austin section of Chicago—which NBC news dubs Chicago’s “most dangerous neighborhood”—was 6,528 per 100,000; the U.S. national average was 2,580. What’s more, McMichael was not the only neighbor who offered to help. In November, Diego Perez, who lives next door to the construction site, texted the homeowner: “If you catch someone on your cameras, let me know right away, I can respond in mere seconds.”
Perhaps the McMichaels pursued Arbery solely because of racial bias. Or perhaps they pursued him because of their arrangement with local police, and with the homeowner, to respond immediately upon seeing the trespasser. Or perhaps their motives were mixed. Those who pretend to know with certainty what motivated the McMichaels are deceiving themselves.
In the rush to paint the McMichaels as racists, we have failed to discuss the real problems revealed by the Arbery incident. First and foremost, it is troubling that a police officer advised the homeowner to rely on McMichael, a civilian, to help catch a suspect. It is easy to see how an arrangement like this might encourage a civilian to behave like a vigilante, secure in the knowledge that local police condone his vigilantism. Second, the initial decision not to press charges against the McMichaels raises concerns about prosecutorial bias—though we do not know whether the McMichaels benefitted from being white or from the “blue wall of silence” that can come with being a former police officer.
Third, citizen’s arrest laws are fundamentally flawed: from the perspective of the arrestee, a citizen’s arrest can look no different from a mugging or kidnapping. Arbery, for example, had little reason to assume that the armed men chasing him had pure intentions; his decision to grab McMichael’s gun must be viewed in light of this fact. Moreover, civilians are not trained in de-escalation. If cops struggle to make peaceful arrests in tense situations, we should not be surprised that civilians struggle even more.
When all is said and done, it’s likely that the McMichaels, and perhaps Bryan, will do time for killing Arbery. Georgia’s citizen’s arrest law requires arrestors to have “immediate knowledge” of the misdemeanor in question. In one relevant case, a judge explained that “immediate knowledge” is a synonym for directly witnessing a crime with one’s own senses. Though the McMichaels might have seen video footage of a man who resembled Arbery trespassing on previous occasions, they did not physically witness him trespassing on the day of the shooting.
Regardless of how this particular case turns out, the problems with citizen’s arrest laws will remain. Such laws evolved in the Middle Ages—an era without organized police forces, telephones, cars, or cultures of widespread gun ownership. While citizen’s arrest laws remain an important component of public safety, we should bring them in line with modernity by placing stricter conditions on when such arrests can be made.
In a better world, Arbery’s death might have provoked a bipartisan movement to reform these laws. Instead, it has mainly been used to stoke fears of white supremacy.
People are prone to irrational fears—of everything from plane crashes to Satanic day-cares. Part of the media’s job is to assess these risks coolly and let the public know whether its fears are justified. On the issue of racism, the media have failed. “There are times when I wish that I could go for that walk, that jog, and feel absolutely at ease, free of worry,” philosopher Georgy Yancy opined in reaction to Arbery’s death. “But that would entail becoming white, and the price of that ticket is far too high.” Lebron James’s tweet—“We’re literally hunted EVERYDAY/EVERYTIME we step foot outside the comfort of our homes!”—received over 300,000 likes.
One need not dismiss legitimate concerns about racism to call this fearmongering. In 2019, nine unarmed black people, along with 19 unarmed white people, were shot dead by the police in the United States. That puts the typical person’s odds of getting killed by the cops while unarmed on par with his chances of being struck by lightning or killed by a jihadi. Yet while any celebrity who feared jihadist terror every time he left the house would rightly be dismissed as an alarmist, James is celebrated for such views.
This double standard can be attributed to a combination of white liberal guilt, which leads some to exaggerate racism, and a socially acceptable bigotry that holds black people to a lower standard while patting itself on the back for its antiracism.
We might wonder why the Arbery killing, among the roughly 14,000 homicides that happen in America every year, made its way into our news feeds. The reason: many who report the news are swept up in a moral panic about white supremacy. They promote stories that confirm their preexisting opinions and ignore stories that do not. That’s why people know Tamir Rice but not Daniel Shaver, a white man killed under similar circumstances. It’s why people remember Alton Sterling but not Dylan Noble. And it’s why the Ahmaud Arbery story achieved escape velocity from local news.
A life is a life, regardless of its color, and regardless of the color of the person who takes it. It’s hard to imagine a principle more important in America than this one—and more under threat from the prevailing passions of our time.
Coleman Hughes (@coldxman) is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and contributing editor of City Journal. His writing has appeared in Quillette, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, National Review, and the Spectator.

Nonsense....media bull shit....ahmaud was never cornered....ridiculous to claim that.

Ahmaud did not stop jogging until he attacked Travis...he had freedom of movement at all times.

But since you make this ridiculously stupid claim please inform the board what you would do to corner someone with your vehicle?

Maybe first of all you should define what you mean by cornered? Just to make sure we are on the same page boyo????

Regarding a citizen's arrest...st ..Greg did say he intended to make a citizens arrest as he began the pursuit because he recognized ahmaud as he was jogging by his house from a video he had seen of trespassser and suspected burglar also he allegedly had previous contact with ahmaud back when he was still on the police force.

But irregardless....he never made a citizens arrest....nor did he even attempt to. Apparantly he changed his mind about that and decided to let the police handle it when they got there.

Your article destroys your own arguments. You should stop skimming and actually read them.
 

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