Are American government actions endangering Israel's future?

[LadyGunSlinger]

[] Jews and Corporations will be the end of America

That sounds like a familiar quote taken from Stormfront.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Humm? I love how some of these very people here showing their hate of Jews are the ones calling the Tea Party racist, religionist, hatemongers, yet the left is the ones with video proof of violent rhetoric, racism, religionism etc.

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I love how no conversation about Israeli policy, or US policy towards Israel, ever fails to produce some intellectually handicapped rightwinger playing the anti-Semitism card.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Since when is opposing violence, genocide, ethnic cleansing, and a racist State a bad thing?

Exactly. Daily rockets fired in to Tel Aviv, suicide bombers who target crowded areas where Israeli children are known to be- it's all disgusting. Arafat had the chance to have it all.. everything the so called Palestinians wanted was offered to him on a silver platter. HE TURNED IT DOWN~ Why?? Palestinian leaders don't want an end to their golden goose nor do they truly care about peace. It's all about wiping Israel off of the map.

 

[Charles_Main]

One of the planks in the platform of the left is a hatred of Israel.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/60minutes/main524268.shtml

Since when is opposing violence, genocide, ethnic cleansing, and a racist State a bad thing?

If those things were clear cut and true. You would have a point. However they are not, and you are nothing more than a shortsighted Brainwashed fool.

The Liberal Media at it's best.

And Jillian Doubts the Left is just as bad as the right when it comes to hating jews. lol

 

[jillian]

Seems like many think if you do not actively support Israel you hate them and are antisemetic.

I do not actively support Australia, but I am not antiaustralic.

well, when you support policies which would result in the deaths of thousands of australians or the end of their country, i'd call you antiaustralic, too.

 

[jillian]

I love how no conversation about Israeli policy, or US policy towards Israel, ever fails to produce some intellectually handicapped rightwinger playing the anti-Semitism card.

i'd kind of like to know why you have my name in a post that quotes someone who didn't quote me and where i wasn't being responded to.

thanks.

 

[JWBooth]

Our dependence on ME oil and our irrational infatuation with Israel are and have been the 2 most deleterious aspects of our foreign policy for many decades.

@#$ #!$ *%*%!!( @#$$ @$&*&^(&!!!

Agreeing with carby ***** up my whole day.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

that doesn't make the tea party not racist... or not violent.... or not rightwingnuts.

as for religionism, you mean like the rabid religious right?

You know this is bogus.

 

[georgephillip]

First published to international acclaim in 1984, The Transfer Agreement stunned readers worldwide with its revelations of a pact between Zionist leaders and Hitler's Third Reich. Concluded in 1933, this controversial pact transferred 55,000 Jews and $100 million to Palestine on the condition that Zionist organizations call a halt to their economic boycott of Nazi Germany -- a potent tactic that was threatening to topple Hitler's government, then only in its first year in power. The debate over this controversial deal virtually tore apart the Jewish world in the pre-World War II era, and it remains unresolved today. Whereas the transfer agreement indeed ultimately saved lives, rescued assets, and helped lay the foundation for what would become the Jewish state in 1948, it also -- arguably -- allowed the Nazi regime to survive its first year and, over the next twelve, to plumb the depths of ethnic intolerance and implement massive genocide. With the world today confronting such morally complex issues as the compensation for slave labor during the Holocaust and the refusal of Swiss banks to return Jewish assets to their rightful heirs, the transfer agreement and the boycott that preceded it stand out even more startlingly as early examples of Jewish initiatives against Nazi terror. However ambiguous the choices made by the Jewish leaders in the turbulent prewar 1930s, they stand in a new and different light today. The Transfer Agreement is a remarkable and revelatory book that has now found its time.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Agreement-Dramatic-Between-Palestine/dp/0786708417]Amazon.com: The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine (9780786708413): Edwin Black, Abraham H. Foxman: Books[/ame]

The Transfer Agreement wasn't the only example of Israel's "Founding Fathers" reaching out to Hitler.

"Incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious 'Stern Gang,' late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on 'Germany’s side,' in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the 'Jewish Question” in Europe, and their assistance in creating an 'historic Jewish state.'

"By this date, German troops had already marched into Prague, invaded Poland, and had built the first concentration camp at Auschwitz.

"The deranged Stern had further bragged about how the Zionist organizations were 'closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in [their] ideology and structure.'

"Stern’s obscene proposal was found in the German embassy, in Turkey, after WWII.

"Finally, I think Brenner was right, when he wrote, 'This book presents 51 historic documents to indict Zionism for repeated attempts to collaborate with Adolf Hitler. The evidence, not I, will convince you of the truth of this issue...Exposing the Zionist role in the [Nazi] era is part of the scrutiny of the past, required of historians.'

"All of the above becomes even more important today in light of the critical fact that it helps to subject Zionist Israel to the examination called for by its crimes, past and present."

I've posted Brenner's documents repeatedly on USMB, and, so far, no one has questioned their authenticity or the accuracy of their translations.

Brenner's Zionism in the Age of Dictators knows where all the bodies are buried.

 

[Right of Neocon]

I love how no conversation about Israeli policy, or US policy towards Israel, ever fails to produce some intellectually handicapped rightwinger playing the anti-Semitism card.

i'd kind of like to know why you have my name in a post that quotes someone who didn't quote me and where i wasn't being responded to.

thanks.

I'm sure the Betty Boob porn was in the works

 

[gekaap]

You should care. Israel is the only thriving democracy in the Middle East and has been one of our greatest allies.

Actually, WE have been the ally to Israel. In 10 years we have given them over $33 billion in our money. That's a nice chunk of money, no?

What the hell do you think will happen if Israel falls? Do you actually believe the murdering thug terrorists are going to be content with pushing Jews in to the ocean? No, they will come after us next.

The idea that Arabs have an inherent hatred toward the US, or that the the fall of Israel would result in bad things for the US is unfounded. There are many Arab nations in the world already, and they're not coming after us. Don't confuse Osama bin Laden with all of Arabia.

I watched an interview on Hannity with a Muslim Cleric within the Muslim Brotherhood. He made it very clear. Sharia Law should be the law of the world and they won't stop until they see a tyrannical theist government in place.

There are plenty of people in the world who would say something like this for their personal favorite religious flavor. Hell, Israel's entire existence is owed to religious fervor and Jewish interest in seeing through the promise of God to give the world to the children of Israel.

It's in the best interest of the United States to support and defend our ally, Israel.

No it's not. It's in the interest of religious sensibilities to see the existence of Israel, so that it can be claimed as a sign that the bible is right, that Judeo-Christian beliefs are true. What would be in the USA's best interest is to stop sheltering Israel. Israel is one of the world's top sponsors of terrorism, and our support of Israel while riding the Arab world for every little flaw it has is what engenders displeasure by many in that part of the world.

 

[Ropey]

[] Jews and Corporations will be the end of America

That sounds like a familiar quote taken from Stormfront.

You're quick. LadyGunSlinger...

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[JWBooth]

[] Jews and Corporations will be the end of America

That sounds like a familiar quote taken from Stormfront.

You're quick. LadyGunSlinger...

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Seems to know a lot about what goes on at that site.

 

[Ropey]

We're dealing with master Satanists here. The fact that there is no evidence proves that it's true.

No, the fact that there's no evidence proves there's no evidence.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

You should care. Israel is the only thriving democracy in the Middle East and has been one of our greatest allies.

Actually, WE have been the ally to Israel. In 10 years we have given them over $33 billion in our money. That's a nice chunk of money, no?

Bold mine- Everything is all about money to you? I don't give a good damn that we spent 33 billion dollars to prop up the only democracy in the M.E. nor do I care that you're offended by it.. it's just too damn bad. Go run for office and see how far you get with that slime about Israel. I'm willing to wager less than 10% would vote for you.. Hell, those are only the dumbasses who don't follow politics either!

The idea that Arabs have an inherent hatred toward the US, or that the the fall of Israel would result in bad things for the US is unfounded. There are many Arab nations in the world already, and they're not coming after us. Don't confuse Osama bin Laden with all of Arabia.

Oh plz.. Just who do you think you're fooling? I guess Mickey Mouse attacked America on 9-11 and the Mouskateers hijacked all of those planes.. Hell yea they do.. All you have to do is take the FUNDAMENTALIST at his word. Gee, imagine that?? Actually believing a terrorist will keep his plan to bomb the dogdoo out of infidels. Who knew??!!



No it's not. It's in the interest of religious sensibilities to see the existence of Israel, so that it can be claimed as a sign that the bible is right, that Judeo-Christian beliefs are true. What would be in the USA's best interest is to stop sheltering Israel. Israel is one of the world's top sponsors of terrorism, and our support of Israel while riding the Arab world for every little flaw it has is what engenders displeasure by many in that part of the world.

Blahblah blah... Don't forget your Iron Cross before you finish spewing.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

That sounds like a familiar quote taken from Stormfront.

You're quick. LadyGunSlinger...



Seems to know a lot about what goes on at that site.

I don't think the propaganda spewed by rabid racists is any surprise to anyone.. We've all heard the same old tired BULLCRAP forever. SQUAWK- Jonathon Pollard SQUAWK- USS liberty-- SQUAWK-- JEWS OWN AMERICA.. If it weren't so pathetic it would be hilarious!

 

[Charles_Main]

You should care. Israel is the only thriving democracy in the Middle East and has been one of our greatest allies.

Actually, WE have been the ally to Israel. In 10 years we have given them over $33 billion in our money. That's a nice chunk of money, no?

Um no not really. 33 Billion? Obama and the Congressional Dems spend that much money in seconds with out a second thought.

 

[gekaap]

Everything is all about money to you? I don't give a good damn that we spent 33 billion dollars to prop up the only democracy in the M.E. nor do I care that you're offended by it.. it's just too damn bad.

Did I say that it was all about money? I said that we have given them significant aid over time. I did not say that it's only about money. The fact still remains that the US has been a steadfast supporter of Israel in a one sided arrangement. There's no benefit to the US if Israel lives or dies, other than the political benefit of having supported biblical prophesy.

Go run for office and see how far you get with that slime about Israel. I'm willing to wager less than 10% would vote for you.. Hell, those are only the dumbasses who don't follow politics either!

If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing.

Oh plz.. Just who do you think you're fooling? I guess Mickey Mouse attacked America on 9-11 and the Mouskateers hijacked all of those planes.

Like I said, do not confuse Osama bin Laden with all of Arabia. Not all Arabians are terrorists. In fact, the vast majority are not terrorists. Don't be so racist.

All you have to do is take the FUNDAMENTALIST at his word. Gee, imagine that?? Actually believing a terrorist will keep his plan to bomb the dogdoo out of infidels. Who knew??!!

What terrorist? What fundamentalist? You're throwing out these words for emotive value, but everything you're saying still lacks logical value.

Blahblah blah... Don't forget your Iron Cross before you finish spewing.

In other words, you have no way to debate the merits of my argument, so by saying "blah blah blah" you can [hopefully] make me look silly or foolish, and garner support in your favor even though you have nothing of value to contribute to the debate, aside from your emotional tirade.

 

[gekaap]

Um no not really. 33 Billion? Obama and the Congressional Dems spend that much money in seconds with out a second thought.

True, $33 B over 10 years has been pretty fractional in comparison to the other expenditures of our government over the same time. But my point was just to illustrate that the relationship between the US and Israel is one sided. We do for them, they do for themselves.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Our dependence on ME oil and our irrational infatuation with Israel are and have been the 2 most deleterious aspects of our foreign policy for many decades.

@#$ #!$ *%*%!!( @#$$ @$&*&^(&!!!

Agreeing with carby ***** up my whole day.

I only believe what I can make a sound argument for. I only oppose what can make a sound argument against.