Applying Atheism Ideology to Other Stuff

[Stryder50]

I am an Agnostic, not an Atheist, but I can answer your question anyway. Is your question asking if an Atheist would believe you personally or believe that logistical glitches such as your example really do happen? The correct answer is YES. Furthermore, your question makes a fundamental miscalculation. You define what God is first then you will deserve an answer.

Per my understanding;
Atheist = "Belief there is no 'God'. " (Definition of "God" TBD)
Agnostic = "Impossible to know if "God*" Exists." OR "Not convinced that "God*" exists.

* = need a workable definition of how you define concept of "God".

 

[Stryder50]

Can buildings build themselves?

Not relevant ~ doesn't apply here.
For one, buildings as usually defined are not sentient.

 

[Stryder50]

Okay so where do you think that creation came from?

Why must Creation come from somewhere ?
Could it not have already existed, often in different expressions/forms ???

 

[Stryder50]

Okay so what if Dunkin Donuts appeared out of nowhere in your house and you know for a fact that nobody had been to your door?

You mean the edible donuts themselves,
a box of such,
or a bakery/retail outlet of such ???

Sorry Charlie, but you mangle your position and subject by not being precise, accurate, and detailed/clear enough in your language and concepts.

 

[Stryder50]

Okay so where do you think that creation came from?

Must Creation come from somewhere ? - OR -
Could Creation have already existed, and always existed ???

 

[Stryder50]

I was talking about the world. If the big bang created it and all life on it, how, when, and why?

What if the "Big Bang" is cyclic ???
"Big Bang" ~ "Big Collapse" ~ (Another) Big Bang ~ (Another) Big Collapse ~~~ ??? (Real definition of Eternity, no clear Beginning nor clear Ending) ...

 

[Stryder50]

Do you mean how everything came out of nothing because of a great big belch in the universe?

Logically - - -
How does One get Something out of Nothing ???

Might we not be seeing a case where the "Something" (Universe ~ Cosmos ~ Etc.) came from a "Nothing" that wasn't really "Nothing"; but the Substance of the Creator Itself ???

 

[Stryder50]

Thats one, kinda. That belch made the universe. There was no universe before that.
Or this is some sort of program or game to some supreme being.
All makes more sense than the abrahamic creation theory. lol

Always Was, Always Will Be ....
= Eternity = No Beginning nor No End (Cyclic)

Would suggest Big Bang=Create ~ Big Collapse = Shrink = Redo = Big Bang=Create ~ Big Collapse = Shrink ~ Redo ~ Etc. ...

 

[Stryder50]

Predatory Claims

How can you preach that your God had no beginning, but not let us consider the possibility that everything else had always existed, though in changing forms, and didn't need any Creator?

If one can not get Something from Nothing would that not suggest that the Something we/our Existence Is, came from a "Creator" (which is eternal and all that is) which is All Knowing ~ All Being ~ All Capable and All That Is ???

 

[Stryder50]

The King-lover is the Great Confuser in the Sky

Other, lower Entities, are the "Great Confuser in the Sky" sources/beings .... (The ET's are the ones to blame )

 

[ChristisKing]

How would you define "atheists" ?

Somebody who doesn't believe in God.

Not relevant ~ doesn't apply here.
For one, buildings as usually defined are not sentient.

I thought that it was a really good analogy.

Why must Creation come from somewhere ?
Could it not have already existed, often in different expressions/forms ???

I don't know.

Logically - - -
How does One get Something out of Nothing ???

Exactly my point.

 

[Stryder50]

Before putting this subject to rest for the night(for my purposes) I'm going to toss out the following terms/concepts for consideration and usage;

Theism: - Belief in 'God' or 'Gods'.

Atheism: - Belief there is no 'God(s)*'. [Also rejection of Theology = Dogma/Scripture related to a Religion]
- * Can also mean no belief in a religion( or dogma of such).

Theology - The Study of Religions. or "God". Also matters of Doctrine and Divinity.

Agnostic - Impossible to know if "God" exists OR Not Convinced that "God" Exists.

Perhaps more later ....

 

[Stryder50]

Somebody who doesn't believe in God.



I thought that it was a really good analogy.



I don't know.



Exactly my point.

We still need workable and acceptable definitions of "God" or "Gawd" ....

 

[BULLDOG]

Before putting this subject to rest for the night(for my purposes) I'm going to toss out the following terms/concepts for consideration and usage;

Theism: - Belief in 'God' or 'Gods'.

Atheism: - Belief there is no 'God(s)*'. [Also rejection of Theology = Dogma/Scripture related to a Religion]
- * Can also mean no belief in a religion( or dogma of such).

Theology - The Study of Religions. or "God". Also matters of Doctrine and Divinity.

Agnostic - Impossible to know if "God" exists OR Not Convinced that "God" Exists.

Perhaps more later ....

I think you are mistaken. An atheist has not been convinced that a god exists. That is all. Some are decidedly convinced that no god exists. Others allow that a god could exist, but they haven't been convinced that is the case. Both are atheists.

 

[GLASNOST]

Wanting to believe in god is as natural as wanting to believe that a gold bullion is worth more than a bag of charcoal to a man who is trying to start a barbecue.

 

[GLASNOST]

.... you can't explain how life began without God.

You can't explain how god began without life.

 

[ChristisKing]

We still need workable and acceptable definitions of "God" or "Gawd" ....

The creator of the universe.

You can't explain how god began without life.

Touche

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Can you explain how the "Beginning of Life" requires a "God", "Creator", or similar "Supreme Being/Entity" ???

Put horse before cart.

Theism Is a Sadomasochistic Mindset That Is Applied to Secular Circumstances

If a beginning is assumed, it could be merely a natural force, which we don't have to obey any more than escaping gravity through the invention of airplanes is a sin.

There is a nothingness of steam before heat creates it. So all nothingness may be raw material that an impersonal creator (-er) develops.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Can buildings build themselves?

Intramural Debates

Other things can change their form without outside help. Neither side will allow the theory of Intelligent Self-Design.

 

[gold something]

If you knew all the answers, then you wouldn't need God. It's faith.