Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

[Robert W]

LOL!!!!

The land has to get to 600 to the pole miles to start an ice age.

That's why Greenland is in ice age and Alaska is not.

Once there, give a million or two years, the ice will push way past the polar circle....

North America 3 million years ago...

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That messes up your theory. And you did it to yourself.

 

[Mushroom]

When did North America move "outside of 600 miles"?

The funniest thing is that a significant number of people are not even aware we are still in an Ice Age, and have been for over 2.5 million years.

We are simply in the early stages of an interglacial between multiple glacial cycles. But the current Ice Age will likely continue for at least another 2-3+ million years until plate tectonics change the continental placement enough that they will end. That will most likely be when North and South America move apart enough that the current that used to pass between them resumes.

 

[Mushroom]

LGM was about 26,000 years ago.

An inch a year, much less than a mile of movement away from the pole.

Doesn't sound like enough to make such a huge change.

Maybe your claim is just idiotic?

This is the problem of junk science, and how little people actually understand about things like geology.

To put it in perspective, when the current ice age cycle started and there were massive palm trees growing in Alaska, most of North America was over 35 miles farther north. And that did not have a damned thing to do with the ice age at all.

It has nothing to do with the location of any one continent, but the current arrangement. Ask any geologist, and they will point at the clear "smoking gun" of the Isthmus of Panama rising up and cutting off the current that used to pass between the Atlantic and Pacific close to the equator.

We are in an unusual time geologically over the lifespan of the planet, because as far as we know this is the only time the planet has not had either a single ocean or multiple oceans with clear openings near the equator but two large oceans separated only at the poles.

 

[EMH]

LGM was about 26,000 years ago.

An inch a year, much less than a mile of movement away from the pole.

Doesn't sound like enough to make such a huge change.

Maybe your claim is just idiotic?

You've already been refuted, you and McBullshit....

LOL!!!

Thread 'How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?'

May 15, 2023

This is where the climate debate is now stuck.

Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today.

Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very "Dennis Quaid" approach to ice ages - they are lightning fast, quick, and agile. They come and go really fast.

Since 2010, Milankovitch has replaced "North American Ice Age" with the claim that the ice on Chicago recently that was 2.5 miles thick was only 75k years old.

Really....

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[EMH]

an interglacial

Thread '"Interglacials" are 100% refuted by ice cores'

Oct 28, 2025

CO2 FRAUD is 100% about getting science invalids to believe planet Earth warms and cools as a whole. That conclusion was completely blown out of the water by the fact that Greenland froze while North America thawed during the past 1 million years.

The "interglacial" is part of CO2 FRAUD's attempt to mislead on that issue.

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[EMH]

the current ice age cycle started and there were massive palm trees growing in Alaska

You can't make up just how stupid and easily refuted McBullshit is...

Thread 'The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago'

Aug 9, 2023

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure...

We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old dinosaur fossils, and clearly they did not live on top of 2+ mile thick ice at -60F...

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[Samofvt]

This is the problem of junk science, and how little people actually understand about things like geology.

To put it in perspective, when the current ice age cycle started and there were massive palm trees growing in Alaska, most of North America was over 35 miles farther north. And that did not have a damned thing to do with the ice age at all.

It has nothing to do with the location of any one continent, but the current arrangement. Ask any geologist, and they will point at the clear "smoking gun" of the Isthmus of Panama rising up and cutting off the current that used to pass between the Atlantic and Pacific close to the equator.

We are in an unusual time geologically over the lifespan of the planet, because as far as we know this is the only time the planet has not had either a single ocean or multiple oceans with clear openings near the equator but two large oceans separated only at the poles.

Clinging on to hypotheses, for example "the world is flat", and then creating other new hypotheses to explain observations that refute your original hypotheses is not science. It's politics.

That is not a palm tree. That is a fern.

 

[Mushroom]

Clinging on to hypotheses, for example "the world is flat", and then creating other new hypotheses to explain observations that refute your original hypotheses is not science. It's politics.

That is not a palm tree. That is a fern.

No, that is a palm frond. Very clearly, that is nothing like a fern.