Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...
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Correct in general, but you are analyzing in a void. When 5 million cubic miles of ice melts, it creates rivers and lakes, including FRESH WATER lakes duh duh duh....
So you could actually explain the scratch in Indiana as a chunk of ice that broke off way further north and flowed with the river until it hit something and scratched it.
Everyone with any high school science level skills can tell who got spanked here...
LOL!!!
And to think you are the best "faux skeptic" Mossad has.... LOL!!!!
That's what the 2010 FBI case proved, that Greenland froze while North America thawed AT THE SAME TIME.... RULING OUT
Sun
Atmosphere
CO2 in Atmosphere
as suspects, leaving only tectonic plate movement and 600 miles to the pole.
Only after homO hid the case in the CLOSET in 2012 did North American Ice Age get re-written into McBullshit....
The Silence of US President Obama on Climate Change-A Serious Ethical Lapse?
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Correct in general, but you are analyzing in a void. When 5 million cubic miles of ice melts, it creates rivers and lakes, including FRESH WATER lakes duh duh duh....
So you could actually explain the scratch in Indiana as a chunk of ice that broke off way further north and flowed with the river until it hit something and scratched it.
Everyone with any high school science level skills can tell who got spanked here...
LOL!!!
And to think you are the best "faux skeptic" Mossad has.... LOL!!!!
That's what the 2010 FBI case proved, that Greenland froze while North America thawed AT THE SAME TIME.... RULING OUT
Sun
Atmosphere
CO2 in Atmosphere
as suspects, leaving only tectonic plate movement and 600 miles to the pole.
Only after homO hid the case in the CLOSET in 2012 did North American Ice Age get re-written into McBullshit....
The Silence of US President Obama on Climate Change-A Serious Ethical Lapse?
Editor’s note on the following entry. On the very day that the following entry was posted, President Obama mentioned climate change for the first time in a long time in a speech at the Unive…
So you could actually explain the scratch in Indiana as a chunk of ice that broke off way further north and flowed with the river until it hit something and scratched it.
A mile thick block of ice floated down the river?
And that explains why an inch a year movement caused all the ice sheets to suddenly melt? LOL!
And to think you are the best "faux skeptic" Mossad has.... LOL!!!!
Yeah, your delusions are very convincing.
That's what the 2010 FBI case proved, that Greenland froze while North America thawed AT THE SAME TIME....
FBI case? Neat!
Link?
Only after homO hid the case in the CLOSET in 2012 did North American Ice Age get re-written into McBullshit....
The homos and the Jews, making you look like an idiot for decades now.
Maybe you should stop broadcasting your failures?
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durrr....
North America 3 million years ago.... durr....
The "Glacial Maximum" in the above map was originally dated at 50 million years ago, part of what was called North American Ice Age prior to 2012, when this happened..
I can't believe the amount of absolute garbage in the above post.
There is no way in hell the top image is "3 million years ago", since the current ice age cycle only started around 2.6 million years ago.
For anybody that is curious, this is close to what North America actually looked like 3 million years ago.
And several things should be immediately obvious. First of all, almost all of Florida is underwater. Secondly, no Great Lakes. Those as we know them today were created by the ice sheets, at this time that area would have more closely resembled Eastern Washington geologically. With scattered outcroppings of basalt poking out of almost a billion years of deposits. Also, Central California is an inland sea.
And to the west of the Mississippi River is the Paleo-Bell River.
And no, that map showing the "Last Glacial Maximum" was not dated to 50 million years ago, and called the North American Ice Age prior to 2012. Holy crap, you really do simply make shit up and expect people to believe it no matter what.
It was never dated to 50 million years for one simple reason. It was considerably newer than a great many volcanic deposits that it rested upon. Hell, that would make some of that glaciation older than the Rocky Mountains themselves! 50 MYA is during the Laramide Orogeny that formed that mountain range in the first place.
And sure as hell at 50 MYA the placement of the Cascades really makes no sense, as well as the Sierra Range. The former is one of the youngest ranges on the planet at 37 mya (and still forming and growing), the latter is only slightly older at around 40 mya.
And forget the image I posted of North America 3 mya, 50 mya is so alien most would never recognize it.
Welcome to the real North America, 50 mya. And yes, indeed the "West Coast" at that time was somewhere around Central Washington running down to around the California-Nevada-Arizona border area. Most of the land that makes up the coast we know today at that point were still island chains and micro-continents still out at sea on the Farallon Plate. What we know as "Baja California" is still sitting on a piece of crust somewhere around the equator.
Now I have no idea where you got that map you presented, I can only guess from some kind of pseudo-science site that also believes in Young Earth Creationism and that humans rode dinosaurs. But I can immediately tell it is full of crap, and here is why.
There is a good image of the glaciation south of the Great Lakes. And as can clearly be seen, it includes the last glaciation (the Wisconsin Glaciation). I have absolutely no idea where or why you made up the crap about "North American Ice Age", the LGM has been known in North America as the Wisconsin Glaciation since 1894!
And as can be clearly seen also, is the Illinois Glaciation, which is the cycle before the most recent one. That one was also named in 1894, because even then it was obvious the till and drumlins did not come from the most recent event but was significantly older. And at the same time in 1894, the previous was all just given the name of "Pre-Illinois Glaciation", as the evidence was so faint and almost impossible to interpret that it was all just thrown into a single classification.
You really do need to stop making crap up.
If you want to learn some real geology and not simply make up nonsense, here is a good place to start. An actual Geology Professor who talks about Wisconsin and Illinois era tills in Washington State. And the fact that this has been known for over 100 years.
Kinda proves that everything you were just trying to claim is bogus.
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He honestly posts some of the most garbage pseudo-science I have ever heard of in my life, and that is saying something.
And the way he keeps trying to claim that the planet is unchanged 3 and 50 million years ago can only lead me to believe he is a Young Earth Creationist. Where the way the planet is today is the way it has always been, and will always be. Plate Tectonics is as much a fantasy to those types as the world being round and man landing on the moon is just conspiracy.
Either he is simply finding maps that back up his claims, or he is just making up claims that do not actually equate to what his maps present. But notice, I actually find maps that back up the known evidence, but are also dated so it is clear that this is not just me go "Trust me, Bro", but something that others say and is almost universally accepted among geologists.
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.... there is a 10k year old scratch in the bedrock in Indiana, likely near the Lake Michigan southern tip.
"suddenly" = over 3 million years
and homO is both, actually...
So why did homO go silent for 2 years, 2010-2012?
Before that there was North American Ice Age, and then after that McBullshit was "discovered" to cover up the truth that
GREENLAND FROZE while NORTH AMERICA THAWED at THE SAME TIME
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pathetic, since you don't have the definition of ice age correct, the OP does.
There is no "ice age cycle" other than when land gets to 600 miles to the pole until it moves beyond 600 miles to the pole.
Every ice age is continent specific. North America was 50 million years ago until now, since Ellesmere is still in ice age. Greenland started 1-2 million years ago, Antarctica 40 million years ago, and both have grown a new ice layer every year since.
Except for the minor issue that there was over 5 million cubic miles of ice on top of that....
The Great Lakes were already dug out 3 million years ago, except there was nothing but 2.5 mile thick ice in them.
is completely refuted by the fact that 90% of Earth ice on Antarctica has grown 21000 new ice layers since.
It was for decades until CO2 FRAUD was busted by that fact. That's why homO went silent...
LOL!!!
The FBI fraud case from 2010 still exists. Maybe you should go under oath and try to lie your way out of it. Old books still exist about North American Ice Age.
Your Milankovich Cycle McBullshit doesn't pass any of the "data checks" either. It fails all of them, big time...
Just the OP below disproves what you are posting 100%
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You can't refute any of it.
1. you can't find a single piece of land within 600 miles to a pole not in ice age
2. you can't find a single piece of land outside of 600 miles to a pole in ice age
Why not?
Because that's the law. Earth's "polar caps" start forming at or close to 600 miles to the pole. Until you can find a piece of land that refutes it, you are just babbling BS that is 100% refuted.
Your side thinks it can just lie and ignore ice core data. You make up bogus "quick" "ice ages" to deflect from the truth that
Greenland froze while North America thawed for the past 1-2 million years at the same time, which refutes
1. Sun = Fox News "solar cycle"
2. Atmosphere
3. CO2 in Atmosphere
as the cause. And that would mean there would be no reason for the US taxpayer to continue to fund your sorry science invalid ass....
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"suddenly" = over 3 million years
No, moron, suddenly in the last ~20,000 years.
and homO is both, actually...
The FBI said you are too.
So why did homO go silent for 2 years, 2010-2012?
Because they were burning all the books that supported your idiotic claims.
GREENLAND FROZE while NORTH AMERICA THAWED at THE SAME TIME
Is this your tertiary syphilis speaking again? Or your mad cow?
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LOL... ignoring that ice cores already refute your pathetic "interglacial" BS....
It is true that the final portion of the North American Ice Age did melt in the past 20k years ... up to Ellesmere. Like ice piled up by snowplows, it takes a while for it to get to halfway melted. Once halfway, with all that new water present and turning ice below it into slush, the "final 10k years" of an ice age melt is slushy warm ice melting quite quickly. Then you get floods, which can pick up a large remaining chunk of ice and dump it in a "river" where the current moves it with "hyperglacial" speed. Considering that reality, it is likely the ice in Indiana 10k years ago was not 1 mile thick, but rather the force involved in the calc did not account for the "hyperglacial" speed....
And once again, when routed by actual practice of real science, CO2 FRAUD resorts to drive byes, insults, and refusing to even attempt to refute the truth of this topic.... because they can't refute it, and they've known that for almost 30 years....
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ice cores. The ice cores prove Greenland and Antarctica, 97% of Earth ice, grew new ice layers for way more than just the past 20k years. You are claiming with "interglacial" that there was "melting" and "ice loss." Where? Not on Greenland and Antarctica, they both GREW ICE straight through CO2 FRAUD's bullshit "interglacial."
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interglacial is a geological interval of warmer climate lasting thousands of years that occurs between colder glacial periods (ice ages). During these periods, glaciers retreat, sea levels rise, and ice sheets shrink
nevermind 97% of Earth ice grew straight through the so called "interglacial."
nevermind 97% of Earth ice grew straight through the so called "interglacial."
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^^^^Can't provide any actual backup.
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