Zone1 Antisemites lie about Israel being an apartheid state

[ShahdagMountains]

 

[JoeB131]

Fix your countries. Then talk.

As long as you guys are going to insist we support you, then we get to talk.

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Um, yeah, we are worried about them building houses on stolen land, as we should be.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

As long as you guys are going to insist we support you, then we get to talk.



Um, yeah, we are worried about them building houses on stolen land, as we should be.

Fix your own backyard.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Works for me. Starting tomorrow, we cut off all trade, aid, and weapon sales to the Zionist Entity, and stop using our UN Veto to protect them in the general assembly.

You’d better give up your mobile phone, TV, cancer treatments, and much more, then.

 

[Lisa558]

Their policies are none of your business.

It’s more than that. It’s really not the policies they’re objecting to. They’re objecting to the very existence of a Jewish state, and smearing it with lies (like apartheid and genocide) while saying NOTHING about the Islamic apartheid countries that are 90% Muslim.

 

[Lisa558]

You’d better give up your mobile phone, TV, cancer treatments, and much more, then.

I can guess what he said. Tell him he doesn’t get any of the following either:

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[alang1216]

1) Not if they are lying and calling it an apartheid state, which - as I stated above - is a lie driven by their antisemitism and designed to promote more antisemitism.

2) Not when they double down on their infraction by not only lying about Israel’s “apartheid,” but actually overlooking the several Muslim countries that actually are.

3) Not when they say they are not antisemitic but only are opposed to Israel’s policies - and then go on to scream about Jewish bullies, Jewish terrorists, and “Death to Jews””

The sweeping condemnation of Israel is due to antisemitism 95% of the time, and ignorance the other 5%. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and put you with the 5%,

You may think you are a friend of Israel but you are not. Claiming any criticism of Israel is due to anti-Semitism only reinforces the world's view that Jews believe they deserve special treatment and can do what they like because of what was done to them. In the long run that will only harm Israel.

In July 2024, the International Court of Justice (ICJ)—the highest court of the United Nations—issued a landmark advisory opinion that fundamentally changed the legal landscape of this debate.

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1. The ICJ Advisory Opinion (July 2024)​

The ICJ’s opinion addressed Israel's policies in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT), which includes the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza.

• Breach of Anti-Apartheid Article: The Court found that Israel’s legislation and measures in the OPT create a "near-complete separation" between the settler and Palestinian communities. It concluded that these practices violate Article 3 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD).
• What Article 3 says: This specific article states: "States Parties particularly condemn racial segregation and apartheid and undertake to prevent, prohibit and eradicate all practices of this nature."
• Significance: While the Court as a whole used the term "racial segregation" in its main finding, several judges in their separate opinions explicitly stated that Israel’s policies in the West Bank meet the legal definition of apartheid.

 

[alang1216]

Also, you ignored the premise of the thread: that Israel is being falsely accused of apartheid while Muslim countries actually guilty of it are never given a mention.

Countries like Saudi Arabia have gotten plenty of criticism but that does not give Israel a pass when they do the same things.

 

[alang1216]

Their policies are none of your business.

Israel might not exist if not for the support of the USA, so their policies are my business so long as we support them.

 

[Lisa558]

You may think you are a friend of Israel but you are not. Claiming any criticism of Israel is due to anti-Semitism only reinforces the world's view that Jews believe they deserve special treatment and can do what they like because of what was done to them. In the long run that will only harm Israel.

In July 2024, the International Court of Justice (ICJ)—the highest court of the United Nations—issued a landmark advisory opinion that fundamentally changed the legal landscape of this debate.

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1. The ICJ Advisory Opinion (July 2024)​

The ICJ’s opinion addressed Israel's policies in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT), which includes the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza.

• Breach of Anti-Apartheid Article: The Court found that Israel’s legislation and measures in the OPT create a "near-complete separation" between the settler and Palestinian communities. It concluded that these practices violate Article 3 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD).
• What Article 3 says: This specific article states: "States Parties particularly condemn racial segregation and apartheid and undertake to prevent, prohibit and eradicate all practices of this nature."
• Significance: While the Court as a whole used the term "racial segregation" in its main finding, several judges in their separate opinions explicitly stated that Israel’s policies in the West Bank meet the legal definition of apartheid.

The United States Nations?! You’re using a virrulent anti-Israel body as “evidence”? Are you so ignorant that you think that’s valid, objective proof?

Typical leftist.

 

[Lisa558]

Israel might not exist if not for the support of the USA, so their policies are my business so long as we support them.

True. The Islamic Jew-hating terrorists have made no secret that their objective is to wipe Israel off the map and kill all 9 million Jews.

A DECENT country doesn’t allow that to happen.

 

[alang1216]

True. The Islamic Jew-hating terrorists have made no secret that their objective is to wipe Israel off the map and kill all 9 million Jews.

A DECENT country doesn’t allow that to happen.

A decent country demands that its friends act decently.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Israel might not exist if not for the support of the USA, so their policies are my business so long as we support them.

Israel wanted to go it alone. Netanyahu made a speech to Congress.

But Bill Clinton talked him out of it.

 

[Lisa558]

A decent country demands that its friends act decently.

Your bias against Jews s showing. Israel bent over backwards to accommodate the Islamic monsters who want them dead by vacating GAZA in 2005 - and their reward was the Oct 7 slaughter.

And your antisemitic bias is also showing by how you ignored the point of this thread - that Israel is NOT an apartheid country, while many Islamic countries are - and yet the antisemites ignore the latter to focus all their ire in the former.

You’re doing it right now. Not a word against the Islamic apartheid countries, and focused solely on smearing the “Jew country.”

It’s looking more and more like you are in the 95% who smear Israel due to antisemitism rather than then 5% who are just stupid ignoramuses,

 

[rosends]

How about you give me a country you are talking about, and then we can discuss if it qualifies as aparatheid or not.
Otherwise, stop wasting my time.

You made a statement without naming a country. All I'm doing is using your statement and asking for clarification by presenting other, parallel statements.

Are you having trouble answering simple questions?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

A decent country demands that its friends act decently.

So why don’t you?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Are you intentionally inconsistent for a reason?

Jew hatred.

Just like others in this thread.

 

[JoeB131]

You’d better give up your mobile phone, TV, cancer treatments, and much more, then.

Nope. You guys aren't as important as you think.

You made a statement without naming a country. All I'm doing is using your statement and asking for clarification by presenting other, parallel statements.

Are you having trouble answering simple questions?

I'm not the one making claims that countries with are 90% plus Muslim are "apartheid". (You really can't be if 90%+ are all the same thing, really.)

You and Lisa are the ones making the claim based on one tourist photo.

 

[JoeB131]

Your bias against Jews s showing. Israel bent over backwards to accommodate the Islamic monsters who want them dead by vacating GAZA in 2005 - and their reward was the Oct 7 slaughter.

And your antisemitic bias is also showing by how you ignored the point of this thread - that Israel is NOT an apartheid country, while many Islamic countries are - and yet the antisemites ignore the latter to focus all their ire in the former.

You’re doing it right now. Not a word against the Islamic apartheid countries, and focused solely on smearing the “Jew country.”

It’s looking more and more like you are in the 95% who smear Israel due to antisemitism rather than then 5% who are just stupid ignoramuses,

Accommodating the Palestinians would be "going back to Europe where you came from".

And since you can't actually name these imaginary Apartheid Islamic States (probably because you don't understand what Apartheid is), it's kind of hard to have that argument

 

[rosends]

I'm not the one making claims that countries with are 90% plus Muslim are "apartheid". (You really can't be if 90%+ are all the same thing, really.)

You and Lisa are the ones making the claim based on one tourist photo.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to what I wrote. I never made a claim that any Muslim country was "apartheid." Your explanation of what that "can't be" makes no sense. I'll lay it all out for you so that you can see the question plainly:

1. You wrote in post 15, "Here's a hint. If a country is 90% Islamic, it's not an apartheid state if it has a powerless non-Muslim minority."

2. I asked about that statement -- whether it applies if the 90% is not Islamic but is another religion. In those cases, would it be an apartheid state?

3. You insisted that I name a country though you did not name one in your claim. I simply explained and restated the question.

As it stands this morning, you have yet to explain why you eschewed a religious label when you said that the issue was religion, and now you are refusing to answer a simple question about a statement you made.