Anthropologically makes no sense to fear homosexuals

[gautama]

The funniest part of the Republican Fear Machine is that Glenn Beck has all his followers buying gold.

Gold is going to crash, and those loyal Beckheads are all going to lose their money.

Au contraire.

The MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami is going to cause an economic collapse with all his profligate spending.

There is no way that the Economy can sustain itself......even with this generation passing it's phantasmogorical debt to its children.

What we will have.....or something approaching that is GROSS INFLATION.....it's a matter of time.

The Beckheads are correct. Idiots like Chris are wrong.

And, unfortunately ALL of us will find that out within the next 5 years or so.

And, as far as GOLD and SILVER: The power houses of the future are China, India.

These countries for CENTURIES have a CULTURE unchanged thru CENTURIES of having their populace, rightly or wrongly, squirreling away their savings in GOLD and SILVER.

And, as the median populace of these HITHERTO "third World "countries becomes more and more prosperous ...... their saving practices will change, if at all.....by very little.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Heard Bones say it on the show Bones and thought it was great.

Anthropologically makes no sense to fear homosexuals, since they are taking themselves out of the pool for competition with a mate.

So why the fear from the homophobes? REally makes no difference to them if people are gay, plus, it does limit competition for a mate.

I had that episode on DVR- Just watched it tonight!! Excellent line. It's true- it makes no sense that straight men would be concerned about gay men and their lifestyles, since that takes two men off of the competition ring for the straights. I don't know why nobody ever said it this way before. =)

Possibly because only dumbasses (ie. leftists) think that that is the issue.

Whoosh! as the point flies over your pinhead yet again.

 

[gautama]

fear is what the republican party is all about.

Fear of gay people.

Fear of brown people.

Fear of black people.

Fear of anyone that is different than they are.

no fear

Republicans are full of fear.

That's why they have to have so many guns.

What I fear, is that there are many political idiots like Chris.

Unfortunately, practically every Obamarrhoid shares the same mental incapacity of a Chris-like moron.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Heard Bones say it on the show Bones and thought it was great.

Anthropologically makes no sense to fear homosexuals, since they are taking themselves out of the pool for competition with a mate.

So why the fear from the homophobes? REally makes no difference to them if people are gay, plus, it does limit competition for a mate.

I had that episode on DVR- Just watched it tonight!! Excellent line. It's true- it makes no sense that straight men would be concerned about gay men and their lifestyles, since that takes two men off of the competition ring for the straights. I don't know why nobody ever said it this way before. =)

Perhaps because it's absolutely meaningless.....

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Pure fantasy on your part.

Bullshit. Read the bible.

Why should we? Is it a requirement in this country to believe what that book says?

Open mouth insert foot...

30 second rule...

You're not paying attention as usual.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

hahahahahahahaha!! The bible is a history of the US. lol!!

You need a better source than that if you are going to make the claims you have about American history.

Quit being so dishonest....everyone knows that the Bible is only a story about the times before, during and after Christ's life. Anyone with the literacy of a 3rd grader can read the story of Sodom and Gommora. These teachings have been instilled in nearly every Judeao/Christian faith since it's inception....don't play games...you know good and well what I'm talking about.

You're looking to pick a fight...I'm just stating facts...I could care less what homosexuals do in their own homes or with reference to their social lives....religious people see it differently...so deal with it. When you progressives have completely eliminated religion from America then maybe after a generation or so of brainwashing you can get your agenda passed...right now there are just too many people against the things they want.

Apparently, you don't have the literacy of a 3rd grader then Pansy The Weak.............

The Sin of Sodom

Then there is the story of the destruction of the city of Sodom, (Genesis 18:16-19:29). Sodom has given its name to the now somewhat quaint-sounding term 'Sodomy', which originally meant a specific male homosexual sex act. Eventually it was expanded to mean any form of sexual expression which happened to be illegal, including things that married heterosexual couples do every day.

However, a close reading reveals the name to be a bit of a misnomer. To start off, Sodom is described simply as a 'wicked' place. Lot, Abraham's nephew, goes to live there to see if even one righteous person can be found there. The sexual theme starts when two disguised angels visit Lot. A mob, described as consisting of the men of the city, 'both young and old', attacks Lot's house and demands that Lot allow them to 'know' (in the language of the KJV) the two men. To 'know' is, of course, the famous KJV circumlocution for having sexual intercourse.

The next passage bears closer examination. Lot (Gen 19:8) asks the mob to 'do' his two virgin daughters instead, but not the two guests, 'for ... they came under the shadow of my roof.' The rest of the story is well-known: divine wrath ensues, the mob is blinded, the cities of the plain are destroyed by fire and brimstone while Lot and his family flee, Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt because she looks back, and only Lot and his daughters escape. In an often ignored coda to this story, Lot's daughters have incest with him by getting him intoxicated, (Gen 19:31), presumably to repopulate the country; a similar motif is found in the story of Noah. As in other Biblical narratives, even the heroes end up committing horrendous sins, driven by circumstances. But many ignore the entire context of the story in the rush to justify their own bigotry.

The sin of the city of Sodom was the originally considered to be the violation of the rights of Lot's guests. Defining the 'sin of Sodom' to be male homosexuality was a later interpretation, which was made by medieval Jewish and Christian writers, as a reaction to Pagan acceptance of homosexuality. Near Eastern hospitality, to this day, implies a responsibility to protect guests under one's roof. The fact that Lot was ready to make a huge sacrifice by offering up his virgin daughters to the mob instead of his guests underlines this.

There is abundant Haggadah, ancient Jewish folklore, which tells of the cruelty of Sodom to strangers, and their mistreatment of the poor and homeless. Among other stories, travelers are given gold but not food; when they starve to death, everything is stolen including the gold and the clothes off their backs, and their bodies are left to rot. One of Lot's unfortunate daughters is burned to death for the crime of giving a starving man food. Another woman who assists a poor man is smeared with honey and left to be stung to death by bees. Some of these stories are suffused with dark comedic twists. A poor man is assaulted and robbed. Eliezar, a servant of Abraham, is hit on the head when he intervenes. A judge rules that he must pay his assailant for medical treatment! (Bleeding was considered a surgical procedure). Eliezar then hits the judge on the head, drawing blood, and tells the judge to pay his fine. See Ginzburg's Legends of the Jews and Polano's The Talmud: Selections, for many more stories along the same lines. After reading these, I guarantee you'll be rooting for the Lord to rain down the brimstone on the cities of the plain...

There are also numerous Biblical passages warning about mistreating strangers, (with the story of Lot being implied), for instance this one in the NT: "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares." [Heb. 13:2]

Between the original concept of a violation of the law of hospitality and the medieval focus on a particular sexual act, there is an intermediate stage where Sodom was criticized for other reasons entirely. Where Sodom is mentioned in later books of the Tanach and in the New Testament, it is used as an example of a city which was corrupted by luxury, lacking in values such as charity and humility. Nowhere is this made clearer than in Ezekiel 16:48-50, where Ezekiel, speaking for 'the Lord God', enumerates the sins of Sodom: "Saith the Lord GOD...Behold, this was the iniquity of ... Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness ... neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good".

Note that in this context 'abomination' means human sacrifice and idol worship, not shared tax breaks for long-term same-sex couples, or sexual practices you can see on cable after 10 o'clock. Furthermore, 'abomination' is at the end of the laundry list. The primary sin of Sodom, by this account, was that their society was materialistic, greedy and uncharitable. Social and economic justice is a thread that runs through the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament alike, and it is not difficult to extrapolate this to modern struggles for equality, such as those of LGBT people. When governmental and religious institutions and their leaders perpetuate oppression, it would not be farfetched to say that they are committing the actual sin of Sodom.

LGBT Texts

Glad to help educate the ignorant.

Shut your fucking piehole cocksmoker....if I want any lip from you I'll scrape it off my 501 buttons.

 

[Avatar4321]

I had that episode on DVR- Just watched it tonight!! Excellent line. It's true- it makes no sense that straight men would be concerned about gay men and their lifestyles, since that takes two men off of the competition ring for the straights. I don't know why nobody ever said it this way before. =)

Oh wow. Two less competitors. 3+ billion left. The impact does not benefit me in the slightest. Im fairly confident that any woman who would find me attractive with two less guys in the competition is still going to find me attractive if they were in the running.

The idea that we should be happy because it "lessens the competition" is quite ridiculous. And the extremely condescending attitude by which it's even suggested is insulting.

As others have said, this misses the point completely.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Quit being so dishonest....everyone knows that the Bible is only a story about the times before, during and after Christ's life. Anyone with the literacy of a 3rd grader can read the story of Sodom and Gommora. These teachings have been instilled in nearly every Judeao/Christian faith since it's inception....don't play games...you know good and well what I'm talking about.

You're looking to pick a fight...I'm just stating facts...I could care less what homosexuals do in their own homes or with reference to their social lives....religious people see it differently...so deal with it. When you progressives have completely eliminated religion from America then maybe after a generation or so of brainwashing you can get your agenda passed...right now there are just too many people against the things they want.

Apparently, you don't have the literacy of a 3rd grader then Pansy The Weak.............

The Sin of Sodom

Then there is the story of the destruction of the city of Sodom, (Genesis 18:16-19:29). Sodom has given its name to the now somewhat quaint-sounding term 'Sodomy', which originally meant a specific male homosexual sex act. Eventually it was expanded to mean any form of sexual expression which happened to be illegal, including things that married heterosexual couples do every day.

However, a close reading reveals the name to be a bit of a misnomer. To start off, Sodom is described simply as a 'wicked' place. Lot, Abraham's nephew, goes to live there to see if even one righteous person can be found there. The sexual theme starts when two disguised angels visit Lot. A mob, described as consisting of the men of the city, 'both young and old', attacks Lot's house and demands that Lot allow them to 'know' (in the language of the KJV) the two men. To 'know' is, of course, the famous KJV circumlocution for having sexual intercourse.

The next passage bears closer examination. Lot (Gen 19:8) asks the mob to 'do' his two virgin daughters instead, but not the two guests, 'for ... they came under the shadow of my roof.' The rest of the story is well-known: divine wrath ensues, the mob is blinded, the cities of the plain are destroyed by fire and brimstone while Lot and his family flee, Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt because she looks back, and only Lot and his daughters escape. In an often ignored coda to this story, Lot's daughters have incest with him by getting him intoxicated, (Gen 19:31), presumably to repopulate the country; a similar motif is found in the story of Noah. As in other Biblical narratives, even the heroes end up committing horrendous sins, driven by circumstances. But many ignore the entire context of the story in the rush to justify their own bigotry.

The sin of the city of Sodom was the originally considered to be the violation of the rights of Lot's guests. Defining the 'sin of Sodom' to be male homosexuality was a later interpretation, which was made by medieval Jewish and Christian writers, as a reaction to Pagan acceptance of homosexuality. Near Eastern hospitality, to this day, implies a responsibility to protect guests under one's roof. The fact that Lot was ready to make a huge sacrifice by offering up his virgin daughters to the mob instead of his guests underlines this.

There is abundant Haggadah, ancient Jewish folklore, which tells of the cruelty of Sodom to strangers, and their mistreatment of the poor and homeless. Among other stories, travelers are given gold but not food; when they starve to death, everything is stolen including the gold and the clothes off their backs, and their bodies are left to rot. One of Lot's unfortunate daughters is burned to death for the crime of giving a starving man food. Another woman who assists a poor man is smeared with honey and left to be stung to death by bees. Some of these stories are suffused with dark comedic twists. A poor man is assaulted and robbed. Eliezar, a servant of Abraham, is hit on the head when he intervenes. A judge rules that he must pay his assailant for medical treatment! (Bleeding was considered a surgical procedure). Eliezar then hits the judge on the head, drawing blood, and tells the judge to pay his fine. See Ginzburg's Legends of the Jews and Polano's The Talmud: Selections, for many more stories along the same lines. After reading these, I guarantee you'll be rooting for the Lord to rain down the brimstone on the cities of the plain...

There are also numerous Biblical passages warning about mistreating strangers, (with the story of Lot being implied), for instance this one in the NT: "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares." [Heb. 13:2]

Between the original concept of a violation of the law of hospitality and the medieval focus on a particular sexual act, there is an intermediate stage where Sodom was criticized for other reasons entirely. Where Sodom is mentioned in later books of the Tanach and in the New Testament, it is used as an example of a city which was corrupted by luxury, lacking in values such as charity and humility. Nowhere is this made clearer than in Ezekiel 16:48-50, where Ezekiel, speaking for 'the Lord God', enumerates the sins of Sodom: "Saith the Lord GOD...Behold, this was the iniquity of ... Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness ... neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good".

Note that in this context 'abomination' means human sacrifice and idol worship, not shared tax breaks for long-term same-sex couples, or sexual practices you can see on cable after 10 o'clock. Furthermore, 'abomination' is at the end of the laundry list. The primary sin of Sodom, by this account, was that their society was materialistic, greedy and uncharitable. Social and economic justice is a thread that runs through the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament alike, and it is not difficult to extrapolate this to modern struggles for equality, such as those of LGBT people. When governmental and religious institutions and their leaders perpetuate oppression, it would not be farfetched to say that they are committing the actual sin of Sodom.

LGBT Texts

Glad to help educate the ignorant.

Do you want to explain how Leviticus is "misinterpreted" when it states that if a "man" lies with another "man", as a woman, his life is FORFEIT? Or how about the times that Yeshua teaches that lewd and perverse behavior is sinful?

So many "anti-Christians" can find absolutely no evil in the 10 Commandments, but when it is pointed out that breaking the Commandments is "sinful" or "evil" or "wrong", want to disagree and call those that see the "wisdom", hateful and bigoted. Why don't you demonstrate the "goodness" homosexual acts bring? And please don't go into the "feel good" sermon, heroin addicts can use that reason for doing their temptations too.

You do realize your addressing this to a FUCKING DUMB ASS right? "A Biker Sailor" is a first rate ass clown with a toilet for a mouth.

 

[gautama]

Apparently, you don't have the literacy of a 3rd grader then Pansy The Weak.............



LGBT Texts

Glad to help educate the ignorant.

Do you want to explain how Leviticus is "misinterpreted" when it states that if a "man" lies with another "man", as a woman, his life is FORFEIT? Or how about the times that Yeshua teaches that lewd and perverse behavior is sinful?

So many "anti-Christians" can find absolutely no evil in the 10 Commandments, but when it is pointed out that breaking the Commandments is "sinful" or "evil" or "wrong", want to disagree and call those that see the "wisdom", hateful and bigoted. Why don't you demonstrate the "goodness" homosexual acts bring? And please don't go into the "feel good" sermon, heroin addicts can use that reason for doing their temptations too.

You do realize your addressing this to a FUCKING DUMB ASS right? "A Biker Sailor" is a first rate ass clown with a toilet for a mouth.

This "Biker Psycho" is testimony to the fact that Loonie Bins allow their inmates to use a computer ......without supervision.

 

[Dr Gregg]

I had that episode on DVR- Just watched it tonight!! Excellent line. It's true- it makes no sense that straight men would be concerned about gay men and their lifestyles, since that takes two men off of the competition ring for the straights. I don't know why nobody ever said it this way before. =)

Oh wow. Two less competitors. 3+ billion left. The impact does not benefit me in the slightest. Im fairly confident that any woman who would find me attractive with two less guys in the competition is still going to find me attractive if they were in the running.

The idea that we should be happy because it "lessens the competition" is quite ridiculous. And the extremely condescending attitude by which it's even suggested is insulting.

As others have said, this misses the point completely.

well in the context of the show she was talking about ancient civilizations, in which populations aren't large like today

 

[Dr Gregg]

"These shows don't just make shit up." That's the best line I've heard in ages.

Fiction - Definition and More from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Man some of you just complete and utter assholes. THe science in their isn't made up. fucking a, stop being such dicks!

So rather than creating some sort of coherent logical argument, you resort to the "Nah ah! Doody face" tactic

And what the fuck are you doing? You have not provided any logic other than to be a inflammatory dick

 

[Dr Gregg]

I read plenty books thank you, and there is real science in there. Maybe cause I am a scientist I'm smart enough to realize the real science from the fiction.

To deny there is real science in shows like that, like ER, CSI, etc sounds pretty moronic to me

Since I have to deal with forensics everyday in my cases, I have to say, you are a complete idiot if you think that shows like ER, CSI, or Bones are anything but fictional melodramas presenting the public with a completely inaccurate view of real science. Heck, Ive had classes from actual experts in those fields who hate the shows specifically because they are so inaccurate and decieve people who later enter those fields to find it is nothing what tv told them it was.

That's the same reason i seriously dislike legal dramas like Law and Order. I cant suspend disbelief enough to ignore how inaccurate they are.

and you have the nerve to criticize me when all you got is "you're an idiot" and failure to comprehend anything I say? what a hyprocrite. Fuck off

how many times can I say it, there is real science in there. didn't say everything in there is real, but not everything is made up. ANd I"m well aware of what is completely fabricated, like I said, I'm smart enough to figure out the real and the fake. Just because there are idiots that don't realize it doesn't mean there isn't real science in there. BUt way to continue to ignore it

what is so hard to comprehend, or you just have to be a complete know it all dickhead with internet muscles?

 

[Dr Gregg]

A few comments about this new phenomenom that has descended on us ...... "Dr" Gregg.

First, he caught me by surprise. It's like some disheveled and demented fool that comes bursting into a village beating a drum and making a damn fool of himself.

Obviously this bozo ain't no "DR".

And, OBVIOUSLY he fancies himself as some sort of a philosopher.

No doubt he is a 1/2 educated CRAZED drop-out that is a doper and/or alchoholic to boot.

One immediately realizes that one can't take this idiot seriously. Not only that, given some time during his marxist type, and/or at least LIEberal-type, ejaculations he begins to stumble on his own words, and becomes incoherent. My guess is at that time he is either doped up.....or falling down drunk.

Either way this fool has a malady common to that suffered by the overwhelming majority of the Obamarrhoids on this Forum. This idiot is definitely an Obamarrhoid......and he definitely has diarrhea mouth.

once again showing what a complete idiot you are. Must be troll cause I would think this post is talking about yourself. REally sad and pathetic you would actually believe this LOL

 

[Dr Gregg]

man, you must be one horrible forensics person if you don't think fingerprinting is real, DNA determination is real, determination of cause of death from bones is real, trace evidence is real, etc, since everything on these shows if purely fictional and not real.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Religion. Look what it says in the King James interpretation of the bible. The whole Soddom and Gomora thing....

Again, they are not sinning or partaking in it, so why care what other's do? Religions is a bullshit reason for it. they need to mind their own business and worry about themselves and not what others do and believe

It is viewed in the context as an abomination. At one time nearly everyone in the country believed in some form of religion or another and they all called homosexuality an abnormal behavior and against God. The Democrats and progressives have slowly been eliminating religion from society, destroying the nuclear family and dividing up the nation's electorate into factions they can exploit....so don't worry....you'll get what you want eventually.

Answer Gregg

 

[Dr Gregg]

Again, they are not sinning or partaking in it, so why care what other's do? Religions is a bullshit reason for it. they need to mind their own business and worry about themselves and not what others do and believe

It is viewed in the context as an abomination. At one time nearly everyone in the country believed in some form of religion or another and they all called homosexuality an abnormal behavior and against God. The Democrats and progressives have slowly been eliminating religion from society, destroying the nuclear family and dividing up the nation's electorate into factions they can exploit....so don't worry....you'll get what you want eventually.

Answer Gregg

yeah, what the hell did that have to do with what I asked.

Isn't it up to god to judge people? So why are these people so concerned with others going against god, don't you think god can handle itself?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

It is viewed in the context as an abomination. At one time nearly everyone in the country believed in some form of religion or another and they all called homosexuality an abnormal behavior and against God. The Democrats and progressives have slowly been eliminating religion from society, destroying the nuclear family and dividing up the nation's electorate into factions they can exploit....so don't worry....you'll get what you want eventually.

Answer Gregg

yeah, what the hell did that have to do with what I asked.

Isn't it up to god to judge people? So why are these people so concerned with others going against god, don't you think god can handle itself?

Because anthropologically speaking homosexuality hasn't got SHIT to do with the dating pool. People are against homosexuality because it disgusts them and it's against their religion. Bottom line.

 

[Dr Gregg]

Answer Gregg

yeah, what the hell did that have to do with what I asked.

Isn't it up to god to judge people? So why are these people so concerned with others going against god, don't you think god can handle itself?

Because anthropologically speaking homosexuality hasn't got SHIT to do with the dating pool. People are against homosexuality because it disgusts them and it's against their religion. Bottom line.

Wow, still incapable of answering. It's against their religion, so what, they aren't performing homosexual acts or sinning, so why do they care?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

yeah, what the hell did that have to do with what I asked.

Isn't it up to god to judge people? So why are these people so concerned with others going against god, don't you think god can handle itself?

Because anthropologically speaking homosexuality hasn't got SHIT to do with the dating pool. People are against homosexuality because it disgusts them and it's against their religion. Bottom line.

Wow, still incapable of answering. It's against their religion, so what, they aren't performing homosexual acts or sinning, so why do they care?

I didn't say that. I said people are against homosexuality because it disgusts them and is against their religion. Plus....they are trying to thrust it out into the open as an accepted behavior which is AGAINST THEIR OWN MORALS AND RELIGION!!!! You getting this yet?

 

[Dr Gregg]

Because anthropologically speaking homosexuality hasn't got SHIT to do with the dating pool. People are against homosexuality because it disgusts them and it's against their religion. Bottom line.

Wow, still incapable of answering. It's against their religion, so what, they aren't performing homosexual acts or sinning, so why do they care?

I didn't say that. I said people are against homosexuality because it disgusts them and is against their religion. Plus....they are trying to thrust it out into the open as an accepted behavior which is AGAINST THEIR OWN MORALS AND RELIGION!!!! You getting this yet?

That's s a lie, we are trying to not have people discrminated against because of who they are attracted to, and have the same rights as heterosexuals to marry the person they love or want to marry. Nobody is forcing anybody to accept, you can be a bigot all you want, and people are free to call you out on it and shun you if you mistreat others. plain and simple.