Roger Ailes of FOX on ABC

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Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

 

[Truthmatters]

Hes also not an American is he?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

This is in Politics and not Media or Current Events because though I like Ailes as an individual and I find him funny, almost every utterance he issues is tainted with a fair and balanced dose of politics.

he was asked a question and answered the FOX was fair and balaced and then he used the tag line of ABC. LOL

 

[Truthmatters]

Oh my bad that is his boss whos not an American.

He was a media consultant for Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush, as well as Rudy Giuliani’s first mayoral campaign in 1989

 

[Liability]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Actually, Dainty, what he argued was that while about 300 million are happy or satisfied with their current health plans, roughly 30 million are not. He then suggested that it makes little sense to upset the apple cart of those who are happy or satisfied to attend to the 30 million who are not. He said that what we need to do is attend to the 30 million.

That whining dishonest moron Krugman didn't disagree with the figures, he just falsely claimed that such was the "plan" proffered by President Obama.

It's difficult for your endless willingness to lie to gain traction when others were able to see -- and thus refute -- your false claims about such things.

Poor you.

 

[Bfgrn]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Actually, Dainty, what he argued was that while about 300 million are happy or satisfied with their current health plans, roughly 30 million are not. He then suggested that it makes little sense to upset the apple cart of those who are happy or satisfied to attend to the 30 million who are not. He said that what we need to do is attend to the 30 million.

That whining dishonest moron Krugman didn't disagree with the figures, he just falsely claimed that such was the "plan" proffered by President Obama.

It's difficult for your endless willingness to lie to gain traction when others were able to see -- and thus refute -- your false claims about such things.

Poor you.

Why not ask these people...oh, they're DEAD...

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New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | HarvardScience

Uninsured, working-age Americans have 40 percent higher death risk than privately insured counterparts
September 17, 2009
David Cecere
Cambridge Health Alliance

Nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

“The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors, and baseline health,” said lead author Andrew Wilper, M.D., who currently teaches at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking into account education, income, and many other factors, including smoking, drinking, and obesity. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

Previous estimates from the IOM and others had put that figure near 18,000. The methods used in the current study were similar to those employed by the IOM in 2002, which in turn were based on a pioneering 1993 study of health insurance and mortality.

Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease. An increase in the number of uninsured and an eroding medical safety net for the disadvantaged likely explain the substantial increase in the number of deaths, as the uninsured are more likely to go without needed care. Another factor contributing to the widening gap in the risk of death between those who have insurance and those who do not is the improved quality of care for those who can get it.

The researchers analyzed U.S. adults under age 65 who participated in the annual National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys (NHANES) between 1986 and 1994. Respondents first answered detailed questions about their socioeconomic status and health and were then examined by physicians. The CDC tracked study participants to see who died by 2000.

The study found a 40 percent increased risk of death among the uninsured. As expected, death rates were also higher for males (37 percent increase), current or former smokers (102 percent and 42 percent increases), people who said that their health was fair or poor (126 percent increase), and those who examining physicians said were in fair or poor health (222 percent increase).

 

[sole survivor]

hahvawd

Some undergrad thsis guided by his academic God of elite liberal progressives

blech

 

[sole survivor]

Harvard Science

Social Science=oxymoron

Speculative BS driven by political agendas funded by tax dollars

 

[Liability]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Actually, Dainty, what he argued was that while about 300 million are happy or satisfied with their current health plans, roughly 30 million are not. He then suggested that it makes little sense to upset the apple cart of those who are happy or satisfied to attend to the 30 million who are not. He said that what we need to do is attend to the 30 million.

That whining dishonest moron Krugman didn't disagree with the figures, he just falsely claimed that such was the "plan" proffered by President Obama.

It's difficult for your endless willingness to lie to gain traction when others were able to see -- and thus refute -- your false claims about such things.

Poor you.

Why not ask these people...oh, they're DEAD...

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New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | HarvardScience

Uninsured, working-age Americans have 40 percent higher death risk than privately insured counterparts
September 17, 2009
David Cecere
Cambridge Health Alliance

Nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

“The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors, and baseline health,” said lead author Andrew Wilper, M.D., who currently teaches at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking into account education, income, and many other factors, including smoking, drinking, and obesity. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

Previous estimates from the IOM and others had put that figure near 18,000. The methods used in the current study were similar to those employed by the IOM in 2002, which in turn were based on a pioneering 1993 study of health insurance and mortality.

Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease. An increase in the number of uninsured and an eroding medical safety net for the disadvantaged likely explain the substantial increase in the number of deaths, as the uninsured are more likely to go without needed care. Another factor contributing to the widening gap in the risk of death between those who have insurance and those who do not is the improved quality of care for those who can get it.

The researchers analyzed U.S. adults under age 65 who participated in the annual National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys (NHANES) between 1986 and 1994. Respondents first answered detailed questions about their socioeconomic status and health and were then examined by physicians. The CDC tracked study participants to see who died by 2000.

The study found a 40 percent increased risk of death among the uninsured. As expected, death rates were also higher for males (37 percent increase), current or former smokers (102 percent and 42 percent increases), people who said that their health was fair or poor (126 percent increase), and those who examining physicians said were in fair or poor health (222 percent increase).

Zzzz.

You have identified a segment of the population (about 30 million) whose needs are included in the group that do require attention. This is not contrary in the slightest to what Ailes said, you plodding polemicist.

What is not needed (in order to validly attend to those such as the group to which you make reference) is to fuck around with the plans of those 300 million that adequately work.

And, lest we forget the point: Dainty, in his typical dishonesty, still deliberately distorted what Ailes had said.

 

[Bfgrn]

hahvawd

Some undergrad thsis guided by his academic God of elite liberal progressives

blech

Got it all figured out 'eh pea brain?

 

[Political Junky]

hahvawd

Some undergrad thsis guided by his academic God of elite liberal progressives

blech

Ignorant cons do have a thing against intelligent people.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

hahvawd

Some undergrad thsis guided by his academic God of elite liberal progressives

blech

Ignorant cons do have a thing against intelligent people.

They have a thing against posers. Lots of folks like to pretend they are smart, and republicans see through the democrat posers. (There are republican posers too... but they usually pose the other direction)

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Actually,...what he argued was ... about 300 million are happy or satisfied with their current health plans, roughly 30 million are not. He then suggested that it makes little sense to upset the apple cart of those who are happy or satisfied to attend to the 30 million who are not. He said that what we need to do is attend to the 30 million.

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Poor you.

Actually you little trud, what Roger said was what he said...noy how you spin it. Roger said 300 million are happy with what they have. That is an outright fabrication.

I said it was in the context of how we insure the remaining 30 million...according to Ailes. D'oh!

and Ailes did NOT say 'happy or satisfiedl

note: Liability is running very hard trying to beat CrusaderFrank for the opportunity to be crowned, USMB's Most Beloved Doochebagh, in the most nitwitticisms posted category

better watch that boy. he's an up and comer

 

[Liability]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Actually,...what he argued was ... about 300 million are happy or satisfied with their current health plans, roughly 30 million are not. He then suggested that it makes little sense to upset the apple cart of those who are happy or satisfied to attend to the 30 million who are not. He said that what we need to do is attend to the 30 million.

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Poor you.

Actually you little trud, what Roger said was what he said...noy how you spin it. * * * *

Actually, you totally dishonest imbecile, what Ailes said IS what he said and I recounted what he said FAR more accurately than you did in your typically dishonest OP.

You are noy a trud. You are, however, a lying turd.

The proof will be found in the transcript.

It just sucks to be you, you lowlife liar.

 

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hahvawd

Some undergrad thsis guided by his academic God of elite liberal progressives

blech

Got it all figured out 'eh pea brain?

That so unfair...to all the pea brains of the world.

 

[Toro]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Well considering that there are 310 million Americans, Mr. Ailes math is off.

Actually, the number is ~75%-80% of Americans are happy with their health insurance. Since ~50 million Americans do not have health insurance, that means that about 200 million Americans are happy with their health insurance (310 - 50 = 260 x 75% = 195). But even though he was exaggerating, his point is taken. The majority of Americans are happy with their health insurance. That does not necessarily mean they are happy with the health insurance system however.

I thought Ailes did fine. It was pretty obvious that most of the roundtable was going after him specifically.

Also, Barbara Walters is a terrible host for that show.

 

[Toro]

Oh my bad that is his boss whos not an American.

He was a media consultant for Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush, as well as Rudy Giuliani’s first mayoral campaign in 1989

Murdoch is an American.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

hahvawd

Some undergrad thsis guided by his academic God of elite liberal progressives

blech

Ignorant cons do have a thing against intelligent people.

They have a thing against posers. Lots of folks like to pretend they are smart, and republicans see through the democrat posers. (There are republican posers too... but they usually pose the other direction)

As hard as you might try, I don't think you can honestly classify posers by party affiliation.

There are left wing/lefist posers who more often than not are at odds with if not always hostile to the aims and actions of the Democratic party.

And then...then there are right wing lunatics who are posers, who are usually embraced by the GOP leadership, who are themselves often members in good standing of both groups

 

[Liability]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Well considering that there are 310 million Americans, Mr. Ailes math is off.

Actually, the number is ~75%-80% of Americans are happy with their health insurance. Since ~50 million Americans do not have health insurance, that means that about 200 million Americans are happy with their health insurance (310 - 50 = 260 x 75% = 195). But even though he was exaggerating, his point is taken. The majority of Americans are happy with their health insurance. That does not necessarily mean they are happy with the health insurance system however.

I thought Ailes did fine. It was pretty obvious that most of the roundtable was going after him specifically.

Also, Barbara Walters is a terrible host for that show.

The numbers might be a bit off, but the point WAS taken.

If the problem is with 30 (or even with 50) million folks who have incomplete, unsatisfactorily inadequate or no health insurance, the logical thing to do is to address those folks' problems. This is not rationally done by messing around with the other folks' insurance plans and coverage. It is done by focusing on the ones WITH the problems.

I also agree that some of the panelists took aim AT Ailes. He handled himself fairly well and with humor, though.

Barbara Walters is clearly past her prime. And it is silly for any credible news programming to make a panelist out of a hack like Huffington.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

nuts!

Well considering that there are 310 million Americans, Mr. Ailes math is off.

Actually, the number is ~75%-80% of Americans are happy with their health insurance. Since ~50 million Americans do not have health insurance, that means that about 200 million Americans are happy with their health insurance (310 - 50 = 260 x 75% = 195). But even though he was exaggerating, his point is taken. The majority of Americans are happy with their health insurance. That does not necessarily mean they are happy with the health insurance system however.

I thought Ailes did fine. It was pretty obvious that most of the roundtable was going after him specifically.

Also, Barbara Walters is a terrible host for that show.

You appear to have missed the forest for the trees. The point is it is a fallacy to state that those insured are all 'happy' with the health care plans they have. George Will was not going after Roger and neither was Babs.

Roger is a friend of most of the media elite as he is one of them
This above is one of the things that fascinates me about FOX NEWS defenders in general...they actually think people like Ailes agrees with them Roger is a master manipulater ...he admitted to being more of a 'ratings' man than anything else. LOL