ANOTHER wxample of the federal judiciary usurping the Constitution...

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Federal judge blocks Ala. illegal immigration law

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - A federal judge temporarily blocked enforcement of Alabama's new law cracking down on illegal immigration, ruling Monday that she needed more time to decide whether the law opposed by the Obama administration, church leaders and immigrant-rights groups is constitutional.

The brief order by U.S. District Judge Sharon L. Blackburn means the law - which opponents and supporters alike have called the toughest in the nation - won't take effect as scheduled on Thursday. The ruling was cheered both by Republican leaders who were pleased the judge didn't gut the law and by opponents who compare it to old Jim Crow-era statutes against racial integration.

Blackburn didn't address whether the law is constitutional, and she could still let all or parts of the law take effect later. Instead, she said she needed more time to consider lawsuits filed by the Justice Department, private groups and individuals that claim the state is overstepping its bounds.

The judge said she will issue a longer ruling by Sept. 28, and her temporary order will remain in effect until the day after. She heard arguments from the Justice Department and others during a daylong hearing last week.

Similar laws have been passed in Arizona, Utah, Indiana and Georgia. Federal judges already have blocked all or parts of the laws in those states.
 

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Federal judge blocks Ala. illegal immigration law

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - A federal judge temporarily blocked enforcement of Alabama's new law cracking down on illegal immigration, ruling Monday that she needed more time to decide whether the law opposed by the Obama administration, church leaders and immigrant-rights groups is constitutional.

The brief order by U.S. District Judge Sharon L. Blackburn means the law - which opponents and supporters alike have called the toughest in the nation - won't take effect as scheduled on Thursday. The ruling was cheered both by Republican leaders who were pleased the judge didn't gut the law and by opponents who compare it to old Jim Crow-era statutes against racial integration.

Blackburn didn't address whether the law is constitutional, and she could still let all or parts of the law take effect later. Instead, she said she needed more time to consider lawsuits filed by the Justice Department, private groups and individuals that claim the state is overstepping its bounds.

The judge said she will issue a longer ruling by Sept. 28, and her temporary order will remain in effect until the day after. She heard arguments from the Justice Department and others during a daylong hearing last week.

Similar laws have been passed in Arizona, Utah, Indiana and Georgia. Federal judges already have blocked all or parts of the laws in those states.
You are whining about a constitutional violation on a temporary extension?

Overreact much?
 

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Ever bother to read the Constitution?

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


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Immigration falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.
 

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Ever bother to read the Constitution?

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


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Immigration falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.
So the States aren't supposed to enforce Federal Law?
 

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Ever bother to read the Constitution?

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


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Immigration falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.
So the States aren't supposed to enforce Federal Law?
Of course they are.

What's your point?
 

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Several States have passed laws adding to and helping enforce the federal immigration laws. The feds do nothing but fight them. We all know it. Some refuse to admit it. But neither party at the Federal level really wants to control illegal immigration.....

And that is just wrong.
 

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Several States have passed laws adding to and helping enforce the federal immigration laws. The feds do nothing but fight them. We all know it. Some refuse to admit it. But neither party at the Federal level really wants to control illegal immigration.....

And that is just wrong.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
Why is that so hard to understand?
 

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Several States have passed laws adding to and helping enforce the federal immigration laws. The feds do nothing but fight them. We all know it. Some refuse to admit it. But neither party at the Federal level really wants to control illegal immigration.....

And that is just wrong.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
Why is that so hard to understand?
Don't see where anyone is doing that......
 

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Several States have passed laws adding to and helping enforce the federal immigration laws. The feds do nothing but fight them. We all know it. Some refuse to admit it. But neither party at the Federal level really wants to control illegal immigration.....

And that is just wrong.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
Why is that so hard to understand?
Don't see where anyone is doing that......
A cop stopping you on "suspicion" of being an illegal because you look hispanic isn't doing that? :lol:
 

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Ever bother to read the Constitution?

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


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Immigration falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.

Maybe you should try reading it yourself.

The Arizona law does not violate any of the part in Bold.

The Constitution does not say states can not make laws about immigration. It says their laws can not violate Federal law. As all Arizona's law sought to do was HELP the Feds enforce their own law. I highly doubt any unbiased Judge in the end will find the entire thing Unconstitutional.

Maybe 1 or 2 parts but most of it simply mimics Federal law, which is of course perfectly legal.
 

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Why is that so hard to understand?
Don't see where anyone is doing that......
A cop stopping you on "suspicion" of being an illegal because you look hispanic isn't doing that? :lol:
Gee I was stopped one time because the Officer thought I looked underage. He was suspicious. I've also been stopped for suspicion of DUI. Because my car drifted a little.

But My Hispanic wife nor anyone in her family have ever been stopped because they looked illegal. You sure this is happening? Or is it more like the AZ law where the officer checks your citizenship status during other routine stops?
 
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Ever bother to read the Constitution?

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


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Immigration falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.

Maybe you should try reading it yourself.

The Arizona law does not violate any of the part in Bold.

The Constitution does not say states can not make laws about immigration. It says their laws can not violate Federal law. As all Arizona's law sought to do was HELP the Feds enforce their own law. I highly doubt any unbiased Judge in the end will find the entire thing Unconstitutional.

Maybe 1 or 2 parts but most of it simply mimics Federal law, which is of course perfectly legal.
Neither does that Alabama law. Disregard for amendment 10 is rampant...
 

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Ever bother to read the Constitution?

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


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Immigration falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.
Suddenly you libs are worried about the US Constitution? Please.
BTW, 10th Amendment says otherwise.
When the federal government does not do it's duty under the Constitution, the States have the right to step in and do it themselves.
Notice how the federal lawsuit against Arizona has gone nowhere.
Question.....Why is it you libs are so intent on open borders? Why do you desire to allow anyone who wishes to violate our borders? Why until this mass of humanity coming from a Latino country were you never in the least bit concerned about the way our immigration laws and the borders enforced?
This judge will be overturned and the law will be enforced.
 

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Federal judge blocks Ala. illegal immigration law

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - A federal judge temporarily blocked enforcement of Alabama's new law cracking down on illegal immigration, ruling Monday that she needed more time to decide whether the law opposed by the Obama administration, church leaders and immigrant-rights groups is constitutional.

The brief order by U.S. District Judge Sharon L. Blackburn means the law - which opponents and supporters alike have called the toughest in the nation - won't take effect as scheduled on Thursday. The ruling was cheered both by Republican leaders who were pleased the judge didn't gut the law and by opponents who compare it to old Jim Crow-era statutes against racial integration.

Blackburn didn't address whether the law is constitutional, and she could still let all or parts of the law take effect later. Instead, she said she needed more time to consider lawsuits filed by the Justice Department, private groups and individuals that claim the state is overstepping its bounds.

The judge said she will issue a longer ruling by Sept. 28, and her temporary order will remain in effect until the day after. She heard arguments from the Justice Department and others during a daylong hearing last week.

Similar laws have been passed in Arizona, Utah, Indiana and Georgia. Federal judges already have blocked all or parts of the laws in those states.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but judicial review of state laws is in the Constitution.....
 

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Why is that so hard to understand?
Don't see where anyone is doing that......
A cop stopping you on "suspicion" of being an illegal because you look hispanic isn't doing that? :lol:
That is what the liberal interpretation is. The main stream media rammed that bullshit down our throats.
Tell ya what.....Talk the talk...Go ahead and walk the walk.
Sell your house and move into an apartment complex that is mostly Latino immigrants, most of whom are illegal. Come back in a year and let us know how pleasant it is.
I find it amazing how you liberal elitists run around telling every one else what to do, but will not do these things themselves.
 
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Immigration falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.

Maybe you should try reading it yourself.

The Arizona law does not violate any of the part in Bold.

The Constitution does not say states can not make laws about immigration. It says their laws can not violate Federal law. As all Arizona's law sought to do was HELP the Feds enforce their own law. I highly doubt any unbiased Judge in the end will find the entire thing Unconstitutional.

Maybe 1 or 2 parts but most of it simply mimics Federal law, which is of course perfectly legal.
Neither does that Alabama law. Disregard for amendment 10 is rampant...
Yep, though I do not think there is anything wrong with this temporary Delay the Judge ruled on. The Courts have every right to examine the law and determine it is constitutional.
 

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A cop stopping you on "suspicion" of being an illegal because you look hispanic isn't doing that? :lol:
First, Both the AR and AL laws say that they CAN NOT DO THAT, and that the need to have another reason to pull someone over.

However you know who can stop you for any reason and ask you for your papers? The Feds. So in this Area the 2 State laws actually have more checks against abuse than Federal does. Current ICE can stop you for ANY reason and inquire as to your citizenship status. Pretty funny that you libs attack these 2 state laws and say they are NAZI like, when in fact they have more protections against Abuse by the authorities wrote into them, than even Federal Immigration laws do.
 
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