New discovery Hey, more ice .... not less and here is proof

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you can't even read and comprehend simple posts, yet you pose as being scientifically literate?

Says the guy who just dismissed 6 peer reviewed scientific papers on the ocean controlling the climate of the planet.

 

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Again, you fail to read and comprehend simple posts, yet you pose as being scientifically literate.

And again... Says the guy who just dismissed 6 peer reviewed scientific papers on the ocean controlling the climate of the planet.

 

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How heat moves​

The ocean is the largest solar energy collector on Earth. Not only does water cover more than 70 percent of our planet’s surface, it can also absorb large amounts of heat without a large increase in temperature. This tremendous ability to store and release heat over long periods of time gives the ocean a central role in stabilizing Earth’s climate system. The main source of ocean heat is sunlight. Additionally, clouds, water vapor, and greenhouse gases emit heat that they have absorbed, and some of that heat energy enters the ocean. Waves, tides, and currents constantly mix the ocean, moving heat from warmer to cooler latitudes and to deeper levels.

Heat absorbed by the ocean is moved from one place to another, but it doesn’t disappear. The heat energy eventually re-enters the rest of the Earth system by melting ice shelves, evaporating water, or directly reheating the atmosphere. Thus, heat energy in the ocean can warm the planet for decades after it was absorbed. If the ocean absorbs more heat than it releases over a given time span, its heat content increases. Knowing how much heat energy the ocean absorbs and releases is essential for understanding and modeling global climate.

Climate Change: Ocean Heat Content

More than 90 percent of the warming that has happened on Earth over the past 50 years has occurred in the ocean. Not all of that heating is detectable yet at the surface

www.climate.gov

 

[mamooth]

Says the guy who just dismissed 6 peer reviewed scientific papers on the ocean controlling the climate of the planet.

Back to the kiddie table with you, child. You have no business annoying the grownups. You're too clueless on this topic to have any grasp of how clueless you are.

Tell us, do you really think you've somehow figured out what the smartest people on the planet all somehow missed? That is, just how off-scale is your narcissism?

Let me point out your fundamental faceplant here.

Your premise is "The oceans control the climate"

That is quite compatible with AGW theory which says:
"The atmosphere affects the oceans. Then the oceans control the climate."

 

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Back to the kiddie table with you, child. You have no business annoying the grownups. You're too clueless on this topic to have any grasp of how clueless you are.

Tell us, do you really think you've somehow figured out what the smartest people on the planet all somehow missed? That is, just how off-scale is your narcissism?

Let me point out your fundamental faceplant here.

Your premise is "The oceans control the climate"

That is quite compatible with AGW theory which says:
"The atmosphere affects the oceans. Then the oceans control the climate."

Everyone knows the oceans control the climate. Try googling it.

 

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Tell us, do you really think you've somehow figured out what the smartest people on the planet all somehow missed?

Apparently they aren't the smartest people on earth. It's pretty self evident the planet's climate is being driven by its largest feature. I'm actually quite surprised they have carried on with their nonsense as long as they did.

It's pretty idiotic to believe that 120 ppm of CO2 is causing the ocean to warm like it has.

 

[mamooth]

Apparently they aren't the smartest people on earth. It's pretty self evident the planet's climate is being driven by its largest feature. I'm actually quite surprised they have carried on with their nonsense as long as they did.

"DERRRRRP! THOSE EGGHEADS DON'T KNOW 'NUFFIN! I SAW IT ON THE INTERNET, SO I KNOW BETTER!"

It's pretty idiotic to believe that 120 ppm of CO2 is causing the ocean to warm like it has.

Again, your precious feelings on the matter are irrelevant, given that the hard data debunks your feelings. We directly measure the increased backradiation that comes down and warms the oceans.

 

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"The atmosphere affects the oceans. Then the oceans control the climate."

That is quite honestly the stupidest statement you could make. You think that something that is 1/300th the mass of the ocean and has only increased in temperature by 1.5C over 100 years is responsible for the ocean warming like?

Although your second sentence is correct. The ocean controls the climate.

 

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"DERRRRRP! THOSE EGGHEADS DON'T KNOW 'NUFFIN! I SAW IT ON THE INTERNET, SO I KNOW BETTER!"


Again, your precious feelings on the matter are irrelevant, given that the hard data debunks your feelings. We directly measure the increased backradiation that comes down and warms the oceans.

Yep your heroes are idiots, walk me through how the atmospheric temperature which has only increased by 1.5C over 100 years and is 1/300th the mass of the ocean can produce this type of ocean warming?

 

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You people flood threads with all kinds of deflection, nonsense, and conspiracy shit.

I'm curious if you actually have a brain because you don't seem to be using it. Can't you think for yourself? I'm providing data to you with my conclusions. Feel free to question my conclusions but use your brain to analyze the data. Don't be a mindless drone driven by a political agenda.

Maybe it's because you want to believe man is fucking up the planet that you are unwilling to pull the curtain back. For the record man is fucking up the planet but it's not from an incremental 120 ppm of atmospheric CO2. If you really want a crusade, maybe pick one that's actually real, like urbanization, deforestation, over fishing. The problem is there's no money in that. So good luck pushing those ropes up a hill.

 

[Crick]

That is quite honestly the stupidest statement you could make. You think that something that is 1/300th the mass of the ocean and has only increased in temperature by 1.5C over 100 years is responsible for the ocean warming like?

Although your second sentence is correct. The ocean controls the climate.

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A 300 lb person sits on a chair on which has been placed a thumbtack one 480-thousandth their mass. Guess what happens.

 

[Robert W]

thank you

Home – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Vital Signs of the Planet: Global Climate Change and Global Warming. Current news and data streams about global warming and climate change from NASA.

climate.nasa.gov

Shouldn't we all be dead per Democrats predictions?

 

[EMH]

Says the guy who just dismissed 6 peer reviewed scientific papers on the ocean controlling the climate of the planet.

Oceans do not control the climate, ice does.

 

[EMH]

Yep your heroes are idiots, walk me through how the atmospheric temperature which has only increased by 1.5C over 100 years and is 1/300th the mass of the ocean can produce this type of ocean warming?
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Mine is better fudge than yours...

 

[Robert W]

A 300 lb person sits on a chair on which has been placed a thumbtack one 480-thousandth their mass. Guess what happens.

He sits up and says to anybody in reach, that tack did not cause climate to change.

 

[Robert W]

I'm curious if you actually have a brain because you don't seem to be using it. Can't you think for yourself? I'm providing data to you with my conclusions. Feel free to question my conclusions but use your brain to analyze the data. Don't be a mindless drone driven by a political agenda.

Maybe it's because you want to believe man is fucking up the planet that you are unwilling to pull the curtain back. For the record man is fucking up the planet but it's not from an incremental 120 ppm of atmospheric CO2. If you really want a crusade, maybe pick one that's actually real, like urbanization, deforestation, over fishing. The problem is there's no money in that. So good luck pushing those ropes up a hill.

Nothing will happen to them when they realize we predict the planet does not deserve this doom prediction. They can simply look at well known heat maps of the USA and will learn that in parts of this country it is cool and at others warm. Also even Death Valley cools down so that should prove to them they will live a glorious life if they stop talking as if fright is a wonderful thing.

 

[Crick]

Nothing will happen to them when they realize we predict the planet does not deserve this doom prediction. They can simply look at well known heat maps of the USA and will learn that in parts of this country it is cool and at others warm. Also even Death Valley cools down so that should prove to them they will live a glorious life if they stop talking as if fright is a wonderful thing.

Hello Robert. Before we start tearing each other new assholes, how've you been?

Your argument presupposes that the threat, me and 98% of all the scientists on the planet have been trying to warn you about is not only false but COMPLETELY WRONG. Right? Cause, if AGW theory is only 90% right, or 70 or 60% right, it still means your descendants aren't going to live lives like the Jetsons, they're going to live lives like a dozen other shows illustrating the complete breakdown of society. I bet you can name them yourself. THAT's where your grand daughter will live. THAT's where your great grandson will try to grow up. But, hey, you've always been a good gambler, right?

 

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A 300 lb person sits on a chair on which has been placed a thumbtack one 480-thousandth their mass. Guess what happens.

Do you know how material balances work? Are you seriously arguing the mass of the ocean and the mass of the atmosphere doesn't matter in the heat transfer between the two?

 

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Oceans do not control the climate, ice does.

It's how the ocean distributes the heat that produces the ice, dummy.

 

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Mine is better fudge than yours...

You are a moron.