Agreed. People throw the bible in gay people's face - "it just ain't right! A man has a penis and a woman has a vagina! The bible says homosexuality is wrong!"
Yeah, the bible also depicts polygamy and incest among the holiest of early christians (jews?), and is also in favor of slavery, against the equality of women, and demands extremely harsh (and often fatal) punishments for things such as buying something or socializing on a Sunday and for even wearing a shirt with more than two fibers.
And of course during the battle for women's suffrage people quoted the bible and insisted gender equality was unholy and unnatural.
Then those people said the same thing during the civil rights movement. Seriously, look up letters of people objecting to racial equality, interracial marriage and blacks in the army only 70 years ago. They use word for word the same arguments anti-gay crusaders use now.
But of course, in retrospect we all realize that those times in the past the bible thumpers were mistaken. Perhaps some things in the bible (everything if you ask me) were only relevant to a certain society thousands of years ago when man was far more primitive.
But when it comes to gay rights? "We may have always been wrong before, but not this time! Being gay is clearly unnatural and harmful to society at large."
Yeah, I'm sure....
I agree with the majority of what you say here but for one point: I look at being gay as just part of the human genome....like people born with astigmatism that need glasses or asthma. Being born with a sexual urge that belies your biological standing is just a little abnormality you can live with...nothing to lose one's mind over.
While Obama's stance may garner more votes or deter more votes remains to be seen. If he's re-elected, it will be interesting if he stands by his conviction.
By saying being gay "belies" gay people's biological function, the implication seems to be being gay is not natural. But, as scientists have shown time and time again, all mammals engage in homosexual activity, and often at the same ratio as is seen with humans.
(No, I'm not saying we should do everything animals do like eat their young, but in regards to the biological regulation of major traits, it is definitive proof of its role in animal life).
Big deal....it STILL doesn't alter this little fact of life......two same sex creatures CANNOT reproduce. Period. So to have the sexual equipment that is set up to solely reproduce with the opposite sex, but have a mental drive that gears you to be aroused by the same sex is an abnormality, or defect. Like I said, it's akin to needing eye glasses or having asthma...you can live with it.
And when you say "just a little abnormality you can live with", it is far from abnormal as it is seen frequently in nature (beyond the fact that every bit of unbiased research shows so, as well as every major psychological association. I mean theres so much evidence how anyone believes people choose to be gay is downright ridiculous).
Frequency does NOT automatically equate normality. Astigmatism is a frequent occurence in the human genome, but it's not "normal". As is asthma. And for the record, I didn't say that people choose to be gay.
And saying it's "nothing to lose one's mind over" is insane. So gay people should just ignore the fact that they can never have the chance to fall in love or have a relationship just because some people think it's weird?
Well, they've made it this far....they've been gay folk since the dawn of civilization, and my statement is for both gay and non-gay folk. The problem is trying to force a bogus mindset that being gay is an equivalent of being non-gay in every way is silly, as gay folk left to their own devices cannot reproduce. Other than that, I don't give a damn who "marries" who, works at what job, etc., etc. Just don't sell me bullshit and expect me to nod my head and pretend otherwise.
Same sex relations do not harm anybody, so there are zero reasons to object on that ground. People have been hard pressed and unsuccessful trying to find "evidence" of negative repercussions in the nations that already legalized SSM. Why must there always be people who take great effort to demean, isolate and stereotype a minority of people who pose no harm and have absolutely no control over their genetics? How will the relationship between two adults who love each other be of threat to anyone?
See above response.
The racists and the sexist people of the past all tried to make great cases against equal rights. They all warned of the "terrible harm" that never ended up happening.
Big difference....there is no "gay" race. Period. If a black guy walks into a "white only" bar in America, who's going to notice he's gay unless he tells them? But people sure as hell will know he's black.
Overall, I just wanna be left alone to be happy and love who I want just as I was made by the creator, and not have millions of people dislike me, insert themselves into my life, act hostile and concern themselves with my sex life way more than I do. And none of these people see the irony in trying to mistreat a group of people and relentlessly try convince them they are flawed, unnatural, sick minded and morally bankrupt because of their innate desire to form a relationship with another human being who happens to be the same gender.
