Zone1 Another question to ponder

[The Sage of Main Street]

If you obey eventually the mysteries will become clear to you.

Parsons Are Pardon Parasites

It's easier to sin all I want, then buy indulgences to wipe the slate clean.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There is nothing "natural" about life, I can assure you.



Its time to grow the hell up!

Shows Show Only the Shallow

Confirmation bias. Cells fall into many random configurations, some of which have the shape to funnel the cells needed to form life and continue from there to forms higher life forms.

Commenting on Bladerunner in a Netrix movie-review parrot cage, no one had the originality to suggest that the replicants may actually be created human beings. The slow and obviously not-divine natural process could have created us the way Rachel was created.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Domination Through Damnation

Who gets my donation, so I can buy my way out of this punishment?

There is no salvation for you until you repent of this attitude. This is why God isn't in your life.
All that is required is REPENTANCE. Right now, you're at war with God.

"Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be"

 

[Captain Caveman]

Why did god make a 600 year old man build the ark, instead of just popping one into existence, like he did everything else?
I get its about testing loyalty and obedience and such, or so I have seen explained. But then another question arises.
If god is omniscient, he didnt need to test Noah. He would have already known.

The reason why folk are confused about what God should be doing, is because they believe God should be doing what they think he should be doing.

 

[norwegen]

Why did god make a 600 year old man build the ark,

500-year-old men lacked the experience and maturity.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Parsons Are Pardon Parasites

It's easier to sin all I want, then buy indulgences to wipe the slate clean.

You have this life, however many years He allows you. Anything else is a GIFT. Right now, you have all you can expect

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Why did god make a 600 year old man build the ark, instead of just popping one into existence, like he did everything else?
I get its about testing loyalty and obedience and such, or so I have seen explained. But then another question arises.
If god is omniscient, he didnt need to test Noah. He would have already known.

Created Man has been given "Free Choice", in Everything.

Man can choose between the Absolutes of what GOD Almighty has set, & that which Satan stands for.

It's hard to Comprehend, but, The Almighty GOD, being the First & The Last, and Knowing the Beginning of Time, and the Future,... He Knows what the individual Human Being will/ will not do., where Mankind, can, & has, changed it's Beliefs while declaring that it would never change.

It "Boils down to" The Almighty YAH, offering His Way to Mankind, & even instructing many of those who do Believe in Him, in what to do, that will contribute to this almost 6000 year old "Game of Biblical Chess".

We choose, between One of the players in the "Monumental Game of Biblical Chess".

YAHWEH, wants those who are Absolutely Willing, to Follow, & Worship Him, and not some type of Creation that is incapable of "Free Thought".

 

[Carl in Michigan]

He Knows what the individual Human Being will/ will not do

I don't know this. Neither do you. He may have the ability, but I don't know that He is that intimately involved in the lives of the unsaved

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

I don't know this. Neither do you. He may have the ability, but I don't know that He is that intimately involved in the lives of the unsaved

Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I sanctified you. I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

 

[Woodznutz]

Yeah, they added a few details after ripping the story off from Mesopotamia

Mesopotamia is where the ark was built.

 

[Woodznutz]

Parsons Are Pardon Parasites

It's easier to sin all I want, then buy indulgences to wipe the slate clean.

Are you Catholic?

 

[Concerned American]

600 years was not that uncommon back then.


God has never just "popped" anything into existence. Besides, the point was for man to learn--- what would Noah have learned from God just gifting him an arc out of the clear blue?



Because Noah needed to test himself. Man builds strength through adversity.
Just look at any welfare program to see what you get when you give stuff away.

God also blessed us with free will.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Calendars must have been quite uncommon, then.

And the punishment for stealing one was twelve months.

 

[ding]

Under Investor Supremacy, Science Is for Suckers

Let me know when employee-inventors get 50% of corporate patents, and I'll get to working on it. One petroleum-engineer employee made fracking possible; why isn't he a billionaire?

You don’t even know how to spell frac’ing correctly.

 

[Hafar1014]

Not exactly. Pretty much everything from the beginning of Genesis 1 through the Patriarchal Age was an oral history. They weren't hearing about it for the first time from Moses.

The first eleven chapters of Genesis were ancient historical events - during a time when polytheism was the dominant religion of the land - that were crafted to teach lessons about the covenant, obedience, justice and Israel's relationship with God.

These early accounts are from Sumerian times when polytheism was the dominant religion of the land. The beliefs expressed in Genesis about a creator God that is moralistic and providential but did not control the affairs of men were a radical departure from polytheistic beliefs.

These accounts share notable similarities with older myths from other ancient Near Eastern cultures, leading many scholars to conclude they were adapted, rather than "stolen," to express Israelite monotheistic beliefs. The biblical authors reworked common literary motifs to convey their unique theological message.

Key examples of these parallels include:

• The Flood Narrative: The story of Noah and the Ark shares significant plot details with the flood account in the much older Epic of Gilgamesh and the even earlier Atrahasis Epicfrom Mesopotamia.
  • Similarities: In both, a divine figure or council of gods decides to send a great flood to destroy humanity; a chosen man (Noah/Utnapishtim) is warned and instructed to build a large boat; animals are brought on board to preserve life; birds are sent out after the flood to check for dry land; the vessel lands on a mountain; and sacrifices are offered afterward.
  • Differences: The biblical account features one all-powerful God acting for moral reasons (human wickedness), while the Mesopotamian versions involve a pantheon of squabbling gods who are annoyed by human noise or simply choose to wipe them out, with one god breaking ranks to save his favorite human.
• Creation Accounts: The Genesis 1 creation story has parallels with the Babylonian creation myth, the Enuma Elish.
  • Similarities: Both describe a primeval watery chaos before creation, the separation of waters by a firmament (sky), the creation of light before the sun and moon, and a similar sequence of events leading to a period of divine rest. The Hebrew word for the "deep" (tehom) in Genesis is linguistically related to the name of the chaos goddess Tiamat in the Enuma Elish.
  • Differences: Genesis is strictly monotheistic and portrays a sovereign, peaceful creation by divine command ("God said, 'Let there be...'"), while the Enuma Elish is polytheistic and involves a violent cosmic battle between the gods. Humans in Genesis are created in God's image and given dominion, while in the Enuma Elish, humans are created from the blood of a slain god to serve as the gods' slaves.

In essence, the ancient Israelites were part of the wider ancient Near Eastern culture and "breathed the same air". Their scribes used existing cultural and literary forms to present a revolutionary new idea: the existence of a single, all-powerful, and just God who created the world and humanity with purpose. The shared motifs help place the biblical texts within their historical context, but the theological emphasis remains uniquely Israelite.

Then Christians came and changed the meaning of all of it to create their new religions fir the great unwashed who couldn't understand the abstract god of the Jews and created an idol called Jesus hell and devil to threaten people into obedience.

 

[ding]

Then Christians came and changed the meaning of all of it to create their new religions fir the great unwashed who couldn't understand the abstract god of the Jews and created an idol called Jesus hell and devil to threaten people into obedience.

So Judaism doesn’t teach man is born with an evil inclination?

Have you tried googling that?

 

[Hafar1014]

So Judaism doesn’t teach man is born with an evil inclination?

Have you tried googling that?

No google is your god now. Humans arent evil. Some are like the early Christians who killed in the name of Jesus. Humanity is inherently good. The belief that all humans are evil is how Christians impose their primitive beliefs on people. Thats evil

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I sanctified you. I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Read the context. WHO was He talking to?
He was speaking to Jeremiah who he may have been intimately involved in raising up for the work He intended him to do. We don't KNOW that that applies to the 100 billion humans who have lived and died

My personal belief is that God is INTIMATELY INVOLVED in the lives of those He has called and chosen -- on a level He is not with the rest of the world.
Jesus said as much when talking to the Father about not losing ANY the Father placed under His care

 

[Hafar1014]

Read the context. WHO was He talking to?
He was speaking to Jeremiah who he may have been intimately involved in raising up for the work He intended him to do. We don't KNOW that that applies to the 100 billion humans who have lived and died

My personal belief is that God is INTIMATELY INVOLVED in the lives of those He has called and chosen -- on a level He is not with the rest of the world.
Jesus said as much when talking to the Father about not losing ANY the Father placed under His care

No he isnt we are on our own.

 

[Meriweather]

Then Christians came and changed the meaning of all of it to create their new religions fir the great unwashed who couldn't understand the abstract god of the Jews and created an idol called Jesus hell and devil to threaten people into obedience.

What is abstract about God?