Another founding father bites the dust, Thomas Jefferson

[Mac-7]

No comment from Mac1958 ?

This type of insanity is typical of his party

At least give is a yeah or nay even if its not sincere

 

[Curried Goats]

How many genders are there, Mr. Science?

That's really up to people. Gender is a social construct and so can be as varied as much as individuals want.

 

[bripat9643]

That's really up to people. Gender is a social construct and so can be as varied as much as individuals want.

No it isn't, moron. It's up to science, which says there are two. Gender is a biological fact.

 

[Curried Goats]

No it isn't, moron. It's up to science, which says there are two. Gender is a biological fact.

You moron, you're confusing biological sex with gender. And even then you're wrong. There are people who are born with both male and female sex organs. Go read a book you dipshit. Biological sex refers to your chromosomes and sex organs, gender however is a social distinction. For instance women for a long time were typically seen as caring and demure more concerned with raising children and keeping a home than providing for a family and engaging in physical activity. However there were women back in the day we used to call tomboys who liked to run around and climb trees and wear pants instead of dresses and people understood that they didn't fit neatly into the role that society typically saw for women. Now because of political, social and economic freedom more and more women (and men for that matter) are breaking out of these assigned gender roles and redefining themselves.

 

[Quasar44]

NYC Fells Thomas Jefferson Statue, Founding Father, 3rd U.S. President

Officials in New York City voted unanimously earlier this week to remove a 188-year-old statue of founding father Thomas Jefferson.

www.breitbart.com

The Maoist are not happy with removing confederate statues
The father of the Declaration of Independence is next

Then it’s Washington
Then it maybe the entire constitution

 

[Jessica-stormlover]

The bastards hate this country and aim to wipe out everything that ever had to do with it. This is about destroying this country.

They're worst then the islamic state.

 

[cnm]

NYC Fells Thomas Jefferson Statue, Founding Father, 3rd U.S. President

Officials in New York City voted unanimously earlier this week to remove a 188-year-old statue of founding father Thomas Jefferson.

www.breitbart.com

The Maoist are not happy with removing confederate statues
The father of the Declaration of Independence is next

Then it’s Washington
Then it maybe the entire constitution

Maybe Sally Hemmings will replace Thomas Jefferson. She'd be a founding mother, Shirley?

 

[Quasar44]

I will never visit any far leftist, sewer infested city again.

 

[Quasar44]

Soon they will have to repaint the White House -Black

 

[Smokin' OP]

BULLSHIT

So, you do need a statue to remember?

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Good luck.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Splitting hairs, OMG, Trump errored..........Orange-man bad. Trump's message stands tall.

While in Paris before the Constitutional Convention, Jefferson closely followed developments in the United States. He corresponded with individuals who would eventually contribute to the formation of the Constitution, like Madison and John Jay, an author of the Federalist Papers.

Splitting hairs?

'The late, great Thomas Jefferson, one of our most important Founding Fathers, and a principal writer of the Constitution of the United States'.

From a primary writer to ..............................following along?

I followed NASA and their trips to the moon, doesn't mean I was part of the moon landing.

 

[Jessica-stormlover]

So we're going to erase every great man that doesn't meet your standard of being a good person in history? A little islamic state and taliban, ha?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Are you saying that most people should know where a guy dead 200 years was during the Constitution?

All politicians should know who wrote the thing.
If not, just admit it.
How hard is to do that?

At WORST, Trump made a minor faux pas, saying Constitution instead of Declaration of Independence.

Minor if he was making an off the cuff remark without a teleprompter.
It's major if he is making that remark with a teleprompter, tweeting or making a public statement.
Especially someone who claims to be a stable genius.
You can't delay your impulses to do some basic research?

Must be that smoke getting to your head again, if you were as concerned over the HUGE blunders that the POTUS of the country running things actually says every waking hour of every day, you'd have to hire a team of ten people + two secretaries just to keep up!

That's what the press, you tube and twitter is for.
That goes for everyone but especially politicians.

Got any pictures of Joe ever driving an 18 wheeler?

NO, best I got is Trump.



They even let him blow the air horn.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Not that I encourage such activity, but has anyone ever tried to "reconstruct" Mount Rush More? I am just generally curious considering how crazy people have become concerning the statue matter.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[Thunderbird]

You moron, you're confusing biological sex with gender. And even then you're wrong. There are people who are born with both male and female sex organs. Go read a book you dipshit. Biological sex refers to your chromosomes and sex organs, gender however is a social distinction. For instance women for a long time were typically seen as caring and demure more concerned with raising children and keeping a home than providing for a family and engaging in physical activity. However there were women back in the day we used to call tomboys who liked to run around and climb trees and wear pants instead of dresses and people understood that they didn't fit neatly into the role that society typically saw for women. Now because of political, social and economic freedom more and more women (and men for that matter) are breaking out of these assigned gender roles and redefining themselves.

You’re all wrong. Our corporate, Marxish elites hate freedom and try to impose gender rules of their own. The elites do everything they can to stop women from having babies and raising babies. The elites demand men who are effeminate and/or irresponsible. The elites insist upon a debased, atomized, decadent, self-destructive culture that presents no obstacle to elite glorification & absolute rule.

Simone de Beauvoir told Betty Friedan in a published interview: “No woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”

Desire for Children Still Norm in U.S.

Americans are as likely to have or want children as they were in recent decades, even as the U.S. birthrate has dropped over the past few years. Financial concerns top the list of reasons adults think couples don't have more children.

news.gallup.com

Who Are the Rich, White Men Institutionalizing Transgender Ideology?

Exceedingly rich, white men who invest in biomedical companies are funding myriad transgender organizations whose agenda will make them gobs of money.

thefederalist.com

 

[Smokin' OP]

Jefferson's influence on the constitution is unmistakable. He controlled a lot power and influence on it via his buddies, his influence on the american people via his writing, and and his previous government work. Safe to say that Jefferson had the most influence on the constitution. The communists are working really hard to erase Jefferson now.

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Jefferson was the principal author of the Declaration of Independence in 1776 and also a mentor to James Madison, a driving force behind the 1787 Constitutional Convention.



Prior to then, Jefferson certainly wrote about and debated constitutional issues. Also back in 1776, Jefferson was unable to attend the Virginia state convention that drew up the Virginia Declaration of Rights, but he sent his own version of a draft constitution back to his home state to consider.



Jefferson’s only book, Notes on the State of Virginia, was at first published anonymously in Europe in 1785, and in it, he spent a great deal of time pondering constitutional issues. (The first American edition appeared in 1788 in Philadelphia.)



While in Paris before the Constitutional Convention, Jefferson closely followed developments in the United States. He corresponded with individuals who would eventually contribute to the formation of the Constitution, like Madison and John Jay, an author of the Federalist Papers.



Jefferson corresponded regarding the failures of the Articles of Confederation and discussed a need for a more powerful central government. After it was decided that a Constitutional Convention was going to be held, Madison wrote to Jefferson expressing his anxiety as he anticipated the upcoming meeting in Philadelphia.



The Constitutional Convention took place from May 25th to September 17th, 1787, during which the text of the Constitution was debated, drafted, and ultimately decided upon by the delegates. On June 6th, Madison wrote a letter to Jefferson with a list of the individuals attending the Convention, but explained that he couldn’t reveal more about the substance of the ongoing debates because the delegates agreed that the proceedings should be kept secret.



Jefferson expressed his frustration with the secrecy of the Convention, but he did share some ideas with Madison while it was ongoing. For example, Jefferson wrote to Madison on June 20th explaining why the federal government should not be given the power to veto laws passed by the states. This federal power was not included in the final draft of the Constitution despite Madison’s support of the idea.



On September 6th, Madison wrote a letter to Jefferson detailing some key provisions that were going to be included in the Constitution, as he reasoned that by the time the letter would arrive in France the details of the Constitution would be made public. Madison explained how state and federal governments were to be organized, and noted that some of the provisions may “surprise” Jefferson.



On December 20th, 1787, after the Constitutional Convention was over and while the ratification of the Constitution was being debated in state legislatures, Jefferson wrote a letter to Madison objecting to key parts of the Constitution. Among other things, Jefferson was concerned that the document lacked a Bill Of Rights and failed to establish term limits for federal officials. In earlier correspondences to other acquaintances, in 1786 Jefferson extolled government protection of civil liberties and wrote, for example, that “our liberty depends on the freedom of the press”. Jefferson also was a proponent of protections for religious liberty and wrote the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, which passed the Virginia General Assembly in 1786.



By the fall of 1788, Madison was convinced that the inclusion of a Bill Of Rights to the new Constitution would be prudent. While advocating for a bill of rights, Madison relied upon an argument first articulated by Jefferson – that a list of rights would help give the judiciary the power to ensure that other branches of governments would not infringe on citizens’ civil liberties.



In the long run, Jefferson would have a big impact on constitutional issues as a political party leader and as a President for eight years. Peter S. Onuf, a University of Virginia professor, stated Jefferson and Madison’s overall impact a few years ago in an essay for the Gilder Lehrman Institute.



“Madison’s federal Constitution had created a national state that would prove strong enough to survive a cataclysmic Civil War; as party leader and national builder, Jefferson gave voice to the fundamental values and aspirations that have defined Americans as a democratic people,” he wrote."

So, correspondence with the authors makes Jefferson a principle author of the constitution?

Trumptards will try anything to defend their moron dear leader.

 

[Smokin' OP]

A statue is to HONOR them.

I know.
Post 13.

'They will NEVER be able to erase everything. Somebody will always remember'.

 

[Curried Goats]

You’re all wrong. Our corporate, Marxish elites hate freedom and try to impose gender rules of their own. The elites do everything they can to stop women from having babies and raising babies. The elites demand men who are effeminate and/or irresponsible. The elites insist upon a debased, atomized, decadent, self-destructive culture that presents no obstacle to elite glorification & absolute rule.

Simone de Beauvoir told Betty Friedan in a published interview: “No woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”

Desire for Children Still Norm in U.S.

Americans are as likely to have or want children as they were in recent decades, even as the U.S. birthrate has dropped over the past few years. Financial concerns top the list of reasons adults think couples don't have more children.

news.gallup.com

Who Are the Rich, White Men Institutionalizing Transgender Ideology?

Exceedingly rich, white men who invest in biomedical companies are funding myriad transgender organizations whose agenda will make them gobs of money.

thefederalist.com

Do you have and specific arguments or is generalized demagoguery all you got? The only specific person you sighted died back in the 80s and that was her singular opinion. You fucking dumbass. It always comes back to Marxists hiding under your bed for you dipshits

 

[Correll]

Aww boo hoo. I thought that word didn't mean anything. Lol.

Which part? Have a link or you just pulling it out of your ass?

We're forcing all sorts of political, demographic and social changes on you and you're the ones threatening violence with words like lock and load but we both know you're too pussy to ever do anything about the changes we're forcing down your throat. Lol.

And there's a difference between white wing talk and reality.

I've actually been pretty forth right. We mean to change your country politically, demographically and culturally and there's fuck all you can do about it. You don't have the numbers or cultural cache.

No, it's actually about progressive policy rubbing your face in who's boss is just the cherry on top.

Then you must not be listening to many progressives.

No that's strategy. Reinforcing the notion that you're mutants and morons, that you're deplorables, is useful for pushing political and cultural change.

Your words are what we use to hang you, why would we be afraid of them? Lol.

So, you admit that being an asshole is your strategy. That you are purposefully flaming in order to get people banned.


I wonder if the mods like that you look at them as useful tools, to be manipulated into doing your dirty work, so that you can turn this site into a propaganda machine.

 

[MarcATL]

I will never visit any far leftist, sewer infested city again.

Good! They don't want your filthy bigoted ass anyway.