"And I will Kill them with Death" - Revelation 2:23

[fncceo]

"And I will Kill them with Death"​

Is there another way to kill someone?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

"And I will Kill them with Death"​

Is there another way to kill someone?

A nagging wife?
Boredom?

 

[The Original Tree]

The root word used in scripture is defined as a tattoo, or scar. It will be used to digitally purchase and sell goods and services, but it will also come with a price. You will have to acknowledge The End Times AntiChrist as God and worship him and the image of him made by The False Prophet, or you cannot receive The Mark, and if you refuse it, The False Prophet will have you beheaded.

It is a visibly identifiable mark according to the definition of the English translation of charagma to "mark".

It is associated with money such as an impression or engraving on a coin identifying the person owning such coinage, or in this case, owning the person who takes 'the mark'.

charagma: a stamp, impress
Original Word: χάραγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: charagma
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-ag-mah)
Definition: a stamp, impress
Usage: sculpture; engraving, a stamp, sign.

5480 xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties

Strong's Greek: 5480. χάραγμα (charagma) -- a stamp, impress

Are you suggesting that it's a physically visible mark?

There are no suggestions about what the Greek word charagma translated in to English as Mark means.

It's like a brand, or trademark. An identifiable mark that shows you belong to AntiChrist and have agreed to worship him and participate in his economy.

 

[The Original Tree]

mortals that end up like this, had the 'Mark of the Beast'

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The body sleeps and the Spirit goes to Christ. During The Rapture, the bodies of dead believers are resurrected, purified, upgraded so to speak to last forever without aging, death, or disease, and those who are alive in Christ are raptured up with the resurrected and taken in to Heaven with Christ for a 7 year long Wedding Feast, while those left behind endure the 7 year long Tribulation with AntiChrist.

See the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 were wise and ready and were taken in to the wedding supper, and 5 were unprepared and foolish and were cast out in to darkness.

 

[The Original Tree]

The Mark of The Beast is not voluntary.

Actually, it is.

Why do you think it's not?

Because everyone in the Roman Empire used Roman coin to buy and sell.

The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor. The Book of Revelation states quite clearly that this mark was forced upon all the people; there is no mention of it being voluntary.

A Roman Coin is not The Mark of The Beast. That's just plain silly. Even Jesus did not remark on Roman coinage in that fashion and simply said, pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Mark of The Beast makr, oh foolish one, is something entirely different, and not only does Christ warn us not to take it, but there is an Angel who flies across the whole globe preaching the gospel for 7 years and warning the inhabitants of Earth not to take AntiChrist's mark.

When you take The Mark of The Beast in the future (you are a prime candidate for it) you will have No Excuse.

 

[The Original Tree]

"And I will Kill them with Death"​

Is there another way to kill someone?

reading surada and infallible infidel's posts.

 

[surada]

The Mark of The Beast is not voluntary.

Actually, it is.

Why do you think it's not?

Because everyone in the Roman Empire used Roman coin to buy and sell.

The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor. The Book of Revelation states quite clearly that this mark was forced upon all the people; there is no mention of it being voluntary.

A Roman Coin is not The Mark of The Beast. That's just plain silly. Even Jesus did not remark on Roman coinage in that fashion and simply said, pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Mark of The Beast makr, oh foolish one, is something entirely different, and not only does Christ warn us not to take it, but there is an Angel who flies across the whole globe preaching the gospel for 7 years and warning the inhabitants of Earth not to take AntiChrist's mark.

When you take The Mark of The Beast in the future (you are a prime candidate for it) you will have No Excuse.

Jesus said render unto Caesar what is Caesar's because the head of the Roman emperor was engraved on the coins. The Roman emperor was the "Beast".

Paying Taxes to Caesar

(Matthew 22:15-22; Luke 20:19-26)

13And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.

14And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

 

[Infallible Arbiter]

The Mark of The Beast is not voluntary.

Actually, it is.

Why do you think it's not?

Because everyone in the Roman Empire used Roman coin to buy and sell.

The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor. The Book of Revelation states quite clearly that this mark was forced upon all the people; there is no mention of it being voluntary.

A Roman Coin is not The Mark of The Beast. That's just plain silly. Even Jesus did not remark on Roman coinage in that fashion and simply said, pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Mark of The Beast makr, oh foolish one, is something entirely different, and not only does Christ warn us not to take it, but there is an Angel who flies across the whole globe preaching the gospel for 7 years and warning the inhabitants of Earth not to take AntiChrist's mark.

When you take The Mark of The Beast in the future (you are a prime candidate for it) you will have No Excuse.

fun to watch a pompous mortal spout his false interpretations of the Bible as if he unveiling something profound.
the mortal is in the wide gate to death with all the wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

[The Original Tree]

The Mark of The Beast is not voluntary.

Actually, it is.

Why do you think it's not?

Because everyone in the Roman Empire used Roman coin to buy and sell.

The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor. The Book of Revelation states quite clearly that this mark was forced upon all the people; there is no mention of it being voluntary.

A Roman Coin is not The Mark of The Beast. That's just plain silly. Even Jesus did not remark on Roman coinage in that fashion and simply said, pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Mark of The Beast makr, oh foolish one, is something entirely different, and not only does Christ warn us not to take it, but there is an Angel who flies across the whole globe preaching the gospel for 7 years and warning the inhabitants of Earth not to take AntiChrist's mark.

When you take The Mark of The Beast in the future (you are a prime candidate for it) you will have No Excuse.

Jesus said render unto Caesar what is Caesar's because the head of the Roman emperor was engraved on the coins. The Roman emperor was the "Beast".

Paying Taxes to Caesar

(Matthew 22:15-22; Luke 20:19-26)

13And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.

14And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

So everyone who used Caesar's coinage went to judgment day and were all cast in to Hell with AntiChrist and The False Prophet and Jesus is now sitting on the throne in Jerusalem ruling over The Whole Earth? Where is The Heavenly Temple in Jerusalem that is supposed to come down after The End Times are over where Yeshuah Messiah will reside so that we can all meet Him and do our pilgrimages to Jerusalem which will be required in The Millennial Reign Age?

LOL, what a fool you are makr. A fool is one who resists the truth even when his lies are exposed. That sums you up to a "T"
Why do you bother with deception and spreading lies?

All the apostles had to use Rome's coinage so I guess they took the mark too? So did everyone in the early church all through Rome, so every single person according to you in the old Roman Empire even if they believed in Christ went to Hell, because they used Roman Coin. And you, you use any kind of money, then I guess you are doomed too.

And when did The Battle of Armageddon take place, makr?

 

[The Original Tree]

The Mark of The Beast is not voluntary.

Actually, it is.

Why do you think it's not?

Because everyone in the Roman Empire used Roman coin to buy and sell.

The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor. The Book of Revelation states quite clearly that this mark was forced upon all the people; there is no mention of it being voluntary.

A Roman Coin is not The Mark of The Beast. That's just plain silly. Even Jesus did not remark on Roman coinage in that fashion and simply said, pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Mark of The Beast makr, oh foolish one, is something entirely different, and not only does Christ warn us not to take it, but there is an Angel who flies across the whole globe preaching the gospel for 7 years and warning the inhabitants of Earth not to take AntiChrist's mark.

When you take The Mark of The Beast in the future (you are a prime candidate for it) you will have No Excuse.

fun to watch a pompous mortal spout his false interpretations of the Bible as if he unveiling something profound.
the mortal is in the wide gate to death with all the wolves in sheep's clothing.

I feel sorry for you. You reject Christ, do not understand prophecy, and like the religious pharisees and saducees of Jesus' first appearance as Messiah Ben Joseph who washes away the sins of His people, you will reject Him who you know, but accept him (antichrist) who you do not know.

You, like surada are possessed by The Spirit of AntiChrist. So God has sent you strong delusion because you reject The Truth.

Read very carefully. Your fate awaits you if you do not repent and embrace The Truth. It is Jesus who is The Life, The Way, and The Truth and no man can go to The Father but by Him (The Son of God)

2nd Thessalonians:

Chapter 1

6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Chapter 2

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[surada]

The Mark of The Beast is not voluntary.

Actually, it is.

Why do you think it's not?

Because everyone in the Roman Empire used Roman coin to buy and sell.

The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor. The Book of Revelation states quite clearly that this mark was forced upon all the people; there is no mention of it being voluntary.

A Roman Coin is not The Mark of The Beast. That's just plain silly. Even Jesus did not remark on Roman coinage in that fashion and simply said, pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Mark of The Beast makr, oh foolish one, is something entirely different, and not only does Christ warn us not to take it, but there is an Angel who flies across the whole globe preaching the gospel for 7 years and warning the inhabitants of Earth not to take AntiChrist's mark.

When you take The Mark of The Beast in the future (you are a prime candidate for it) you will have No Excuse.

Jesus said render unto Caesar what is Caesar's because the head of the Roman emperor was engraved on the coins. The Roman emperor was the "Beast".

Paying Taxes to Caesar

(Matthew 22:15-22; Luke 20:19-26)

13And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.

14And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

So everyone who used Caesar's coinage went to judgment day and were all cast in to Hell with AntiChrist and The False Prophet and Jesus is now sitting on the throne in Jerusalem ruling over The Whole Earth? Where is The Heavenly Temple in Jerusalem that is supposed to come down after The End Times are over where Yeshuah Messiah will reside so that we can all meet Him and do our pilgrimages to Jerusalem which will be required in The Millennial Reign Age?

LOL, what a fool you are makr. A fool is one who resists the truth even when his lies are exposed. That sums you up to a "T"
Why do you bother with deception and spreading lies?

All the apostles had to use Rome's coinage so I guess they took the mark too? So did everyone in the early church all through Rome, so every single person according to you in the old Roman Empire even if they believed in Christ went to Hell, because they used Roman Coin. And you, you use any kind of money, then I guess you are doomed too.

And when did The Battle of Armageddon take place, makr?

Your problem is Scofield.. and futurism. The Mark of the Beast wasn't voluntary.

"The beast from the sea" bears a name. This name is not given, but it corresponds to the number 666 or 616, which is also the number of a man. The mark of the beast's name or number was required of all who bought and sold.

 

[surada]

mortals that end up like this, had the 'Mark of the Beast'

View attachment 487410

The body sleeps and the Spirit goes to Christ. During The Rapture, the bodies of dead believers are resurrected, purified, upgraded so to speak to last forever without aging, death, or disease, and those who are alive in Christ are raptured up with the resurrected and taken in to Heaven with Christ for a 7 year long Wedding Feast, while those left behind endure the 7 year long Tribulation with AntiChrist.

See the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 were wise and ready and were taken in to the wedding supper, and 5 were unprepared and foolish and were cast out in to darkness.

Oh please .. The Thessalonians and every other Christian group expected Jesus to return within a generation .. They began to worry about members of their congregation who had died.. questioning what happened if the died before the return of Jesus. Paul is reassuring them that those who died in Christ will not be abandoned or left behind..

The Tribulation wasn't world wide.. just in Jerusalem and it was over in 70 AD unless you are arguing with Jesus.

 

[The Original Tree]

The Mark of The Beast is not voluntary.

Actually, it is.

Why do you think it's not?

Because everyone in the Roman Empire used Roman coin to buy and sell.

The so-called “mark of the beast” is presumed by most scholars to allude to the coins of the Roman Empire that bore the image of the emperor. The Book of Revelation states quite clearly that this mark was forced upon all the people; there is no mention of it being voluntary.

A Roman Coin is not The Mark of The Beast. That's just plain silly. Even Jesus did not remark on Roman coinage in that fashion and simply said, pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Mark of The Beast makr, oh foolish one, is something entirely different, and not only does Christ warn us not to take it, but there is an Angel who flies across the whole globe preaching the gospel for 7 years and warning the inhabitants of Earth not to take AntiChrist's mark.

When you take The Mark of The Beast in the future (you are a prime candidate for it) you will have No Excuse.

Jesus said render unto Caesar what is Caesar's because the head of the Roman emperor was engraved on the coins. The Roman emperor was the "Beast".

Paying Taxes to Caesar

(Matthew 22:15-22; Luke 20:19-26)

13And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.

14And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

So everyone who used Caesar's coinage went to judgment day and were all cast in to Hell with AntiChrist and The False Prophet and Jesus is now sitting on the throne in Jerusalem ruling over The Whole Earth? Where is The Heavenly Temple in Jerusalem that is supposed to come down after The End Times are over where Yeshuah Messiah will reside so that we can all meet Him and do our pilgrimages to Jerusalem which will be required in The Millennial Reign Age?

LOL, what a fool you are makr. A fool is one who resists the truth even when his lies are exposed. That sums you up to a "T"
Why do you bother with deception and spreading lies?

All the apostles had to use Rome's coinage so I guess they took the mark too? So did everyone in the early church all through Rome, so every single person according to you in the old Roman Empire even if they believed in Christ went to Hell, because they used Roman Coin. And you, you use any kind of money, then I guess you are doomed too.

And when did The Battle of Armageddon take place, makr?

Your problem is Scofield.. and futurism. The Mark of the Beast wasn't voluntary.

"The beast from the sea" bears a name. This name is not given, but it corresponds to the number 666 or 616, which is also the number of a man. The mark of the beast's name or number was required of all who bought and sold.

No one should listen to a Makr, a deceiver and a liar like you.

You said The Beast was Caesar and The Mark was his coinage. Now you back track because I showed you what a foolish logical fallacy and lie that was.

Go on with your next lie, Makr.

Let me know when the world gets to 1 currency, and not the current 180 or so it has. Even Rome used multiple currencies, or do you forget The Money Changers that were at The Temple?

The only thing you are right about is that The Name of AntiChrist will not be known until he is actually in power and fulfilling the prophecies about him in Revelation, Daniel, and other prophetic books.

Pretty sure by then your heart will be too hardened, and you mind will be too deluded to resist his mark by then based on my interactions with you.

You still have a chance though to repent and be saved, but it's somewhere between slim and none.

 

[The Original Tree]

mortals that end up like this, had the 'Mark of the Beast'

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The body sleeps and the Spirit goes to Christ. During The Rapture, the bodies of dead believers are resurrected, purified, upgraded so to speak to last forever without aging, death, or disease, and those who are alive in Christ are raptured up with the resurrected and taken in to Heaven with Christ for a 7 year long Wedding Feast, while those left behind endure the 7 year long Tribulation with AntiChrist.

See the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 were wise and ready and were taken in to the wedding supper, and 5 were unprepared and foolish and were cast out in to darkness.

Oh please .. The Thessalonians and every other Christian group expected Jesus to return within a generation .. They began to worry about members of their congregation who had died.. questioning what happened if the died before the return of Jesus. Paul is reassuring them that those who died in Christ will not be abandoned or left behind..

The Tribulation wasn't world wide.. just in Jerusalem and it was over in 70 AD unless you are arguing with Jesus.

That is caused the doctrine of imminence. Maybe if you understood The Bible, you would understand what that means.

The Tribulation has not occurred. The 21 curses, 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls during The Tribulation affect The Entire World, and do not take place until AntiChrist is revealed.

These have not occurred yet, Makr. Why do you continue to lie to someone who knows The Truth.

Show me which one of these tribulation curses occurred in 70 AD.

 

[The Original Tree]

BTW anyone who read my above post should note the following:

It is an interesting coincidence is it not that when it states that AntiChrist is given a Crown to conquer that the Greek word used there is Corona. Corona Virus means Crown like virus.

When it is stated that he is given a Bow, the word there is Taxon where we derive our word Toxin from. A Virus btw is considered a toxin and so are vaccines. The way a virus kills is to destroy cells and release toxins in to the blood stream until more and more of our systems are compromised.

The reason you get immunized is to expose your body to a weakened or dead virus to teach your body how to kill it and deal with the toxins released as the result of an infection.

 

[surada]

mortals that end up like this, had the 'Mark of the Beast'

View attachment 487410

The body sleeps and the Spirit goes to Christ. During The Rapture, the bodies of dead believers are resurrected, purified, upgraded so to speak to last forever without aging, death, or disease, and those who are alive in Christ are raptured up with the resurrected and taken in to Heaven with Christ for a 7 year long Wedding Feast, while those left behind endure the 7 year long Tribulation with AntiChrist.

See the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 were wise and ready and were taken in to the wedding supper, and 5 were unprepared and foolish and were cast out in to darkness.

Oh please .. The Thessalonians and every other Christian group expected Jesus to return within a generation .. They began to worry about members of their congregation who had died.. questioning what happened if the died before the return of Jesus. Paul is reassuring them that those who died in Christ will not be abandoned or left behind..

The Tribulation wasn't world wide.. just in Jerusalem and it was over in 70 AD unless you are arguing with Jesus.

That is caused the doctrine of imminence. Maybe if you understood The Bible, you would understand what that means.

The Tribulation has not occurred. The 21 curses, 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls during The Tribulation affect The Entire World, and do not take place until AntiChrist is revealed.

These have not occurred yet, Makr. Why do you continue to lie to someone who knows The Truth.

Show me which one of these tribulation curses occurred in 70 AD.

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The Seven Seals - J Stuart Russell

Preterism is the belief that all Bible prophecy has been fulfilled.

www.preteristcentral.com

Here its all visionary and symbolic.

Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation’ (Matt. xxiii. 35, 36). In like manner He forewarned His disciples that some of them would fall victims to Jewish enmity: ‘Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you’ (Matt. xxiv. 9). All this was to precede ‘the end’ (Matt. xxiv. 13).

Our Lord also declared that Jerusalem was deepest in the guilt of shedding innocent blood: she was the murderess of the prophets; and upon her the most signal punishment was to fall (Matt. xxiii. 31-39).

Here, then, we have the chief elements of the scene before us. But this is not all. It is impossible not to be struck with the marked resemblance between the vision of the fifth seal and our Lord’s parable of the unjust judge (Luke xviii. 1-8): ‘And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.

 

[The Original Tree]

mortals that end up like this, had the 'Mark of the Beast'

View attachment 487410

The body sleeps and the Spirit goes to Christ. During The Rapture, the bodies of dead believers are resurrected, purified, upgraded so to speak to last forever without aging, death, or disease, and those who are alive in Christ are raptured up with the resurrected and taken in to Heaven with Christ for a 7 year long Wedding Feast, while those left behind endure the 7 year long Tribulation with AntiChrist.

See the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 were wise and ready and were taken in to the wedding supper, and 5 were unprepared and foolish and were cast out in to darkness.

Oh please .. The Thessalonians and every other Christian group expected Jesus to return within a generation .. They began to worry about members of their congregation who had died.. questioning what happened if the died before the return of Jesus. Paul is reassuring them that those who died in Christ will not be abandoned or left behind..

The Tribulation wasn't world wide.. just in Jerusalem and it was over in 70 AD unless you are arguing with Jesus.

That is caused the doctrine of imminence. Maybe if you understood The Bible, you would understand what that means.

The Tribulation has not occurred. The 21 curses, 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls during The Tribulation affect The Entire World, and do not take place until AntiChrist is revealed.

These have not occurred yet, Makr. Why do you continue to lie to someone who knows The Truth.

Show me which one of these tribulation curses occurred in 70 AD.

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The Seven Seals - J Stuart Russell

Preterism is the belief that all Bible prophecy has been fulfilled.

www.preteristcentral.com

Here its all visionary and symbolic.

Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation’ (Matt. xxiii. 35, 36). In like manner He forewarned His disciples that some of them would fall victims to Jewish enmity: ‘Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you’ (Matt. xxiv. 9). All this was to precede ‘the end’ (Matt. xxiv. 13).

Our Lord also declared that Jerusalem was deepest in the guilt of shedding innocent blood: she was the murderess of the prophets; and upon her the most signal punishment was to fall (Matt. xxiii. 31-39).

Here, then, we have the chief elements of the scene before us. But this is not all. It is impossible not to be struck with the marked resemblance between the vision of the fifth seal and our Lord’s parable of the unjust judge (Luke xviii. 1-8): ‘And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.

Preterism is of Satan. It is a doctrine for 'itching' ears.

The apostle Paul wrote a warning for the church: “The time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear” (2 Timothy 4:3).

What does 2 Timothy 4:3 mean by itching ears? | GotQuestions.org

What does 2 Timothy 4:3 mean by itching ears? Why is the truth of the Word of God often the last thing people want to hear?

www.gotquestions.org

 

[surada]

mortals that end up like this, had the 'Mark of the Beast'

View attachment 487410

The body sleeps and the Spirit goes to Christ. During The Rapture, the bodies of dead believers are resurrected, purified, upgraded so to speak to last forever without aging, death, or disease, and those who are alive in Christ are raptured up with the resurrected and taken in to Heaven with Christ for a 7 year long Wedding Feast, while those left behind endure the 7 year long Tribulation with AntiChrist.

See the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 were wise and ready and were taken in to the wedding supper, and 5 were unprepared and foolish and were cast out in to darkness.

Oh please .. The Thessalonians and every other Christian group expected Jesus to return within a generation .. They began to worry about members of their congregation who had died.. questioning what happened if the died before the return of Jesus. Paul is reassuring them that those who died in Christ will not be abandoned or left behind..

The Tribulation wasn't world wide.. just in Jerusalem and it was over in 70 AD unless you are arguing with Jesus.

That is caused the doctrine of imminence. Maybe if you understood The Bible, you would understand what that means.

The Tribulation has not occurred. The 21 curses, 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls during The Tribulation affect The Entire World, and do not take place until AntiChrist is revealed.

These have not occurred yet, Makr. Why do you continue to lie to someone who knows The Truth.

Show me which one of these tribulation curses occurred in 70 AD.

View attachment 487651

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The Seven Seals - J Stuart Russell

Preterism is the belief that all Bible prophecy has been fulfilled.

www.preteristcentral.com

Here its all visionary and symbolic.

Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation’ (Matt. xxiii. 35, 36). In like manner He forewarned His disciples that some of them would fall victims to Jewish enmity: ‘Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you’ (Matt. xxiv. 9). All this was to precede ‘the end’ (Matt. xxiv. 13).

Our Lord also declared that Jerusalem was deepest in the guilt of shedding innocent blood: she was the murderess of the prophets; and upon her the most signal punishment was to fall (Matt. xxiii. 31-39).

Here, then, we have the chief elements of the scene before us. But this is not all. It is impossible not to be struck with the marked resemblance between the vision of the fifth seal and our Lord’s parable of the unjust judge (Luke xviii. 1-8): ‘And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.

Preterism is of Satan. It is a doctrine for 'itching' ears.

The apostle Paul wrote a warning for the church: “The time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear” (2 Timothy 4:3).

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What does 2 Timothy 4:3 mean by itching ears? Why is the truth of the Word of God often the last thing people want to hear?

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Your doctrine comes from the dreams of a teen-aged girl in the 1840s. Scofield and Untermyer didn't want to put up with sound doctrine.. They were promoting Christian Zionism.

 

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mortals that end up like this, had the 'Mark of the Beast'

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The body sleeps and the Spirit goes to Christ. During The Rapture, the bodies of dead believers are resurrected, purified, upgraded so to speak to last forever without aging, death, or disease, and those who are alive in Christ are raptured up with the resurrected and taken in to Heaven with Christ for a 7 year long Wedding Feast, while those left behind endure the 7 year long Tribulation with AntiChrist.

See the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 were wise and ready and were taken in to the wedding supper, and 5 were unprepared and foolish and were cast out in to darkness.

Oh please .. The Thessalonians and every other Christian group expected Jesus to return within a generation .. They began to worry about members of their congregation who had died.. questioning what happened if the died before the return of Jesus. Paul is reassuring them that those who died in Christ will not be abandoned or left behind..

The Tribulation wasn't world wide.. just in Jerusalem and it was over in 70 AD unless you are arguing with Jesus.

That is caused the doctrine of imminence. Maybe if you understood The Bible, you would understand what that means.

The Tribulation has not occurred. The 21 curses, 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls during The Tribulation affect The Entire World, and do not take place until AntiChrist is revealed.

These have not occurred yet, Makr. Why do you continue to lie to someone who knows The Truth.

Show me which one of these tribulation curses occurred in 70 AD.

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The Seven Seals - J Stuart Russell

Preterism is the belief that all Bible prophecy has been fulfilled.

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Here its all visionary and symbolic.

Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation’ (Matt. xxiii. 35, 36). In like manner He forewarned His disciples that some of them would fall victims to Jewish enmity: ‘Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you’ (Matt. xxiv. 9). All this was to precede ‘the end’ (Matt. xxiv. 13).

Our Lord also declared that Jerusalem was deepest in the guilt of shedding innocent blood: she was the murderess of the prophets; and upon her the most signal punishment was to fall (Matt. xxiii. 31-39).

Here, then, we have the chief elements of the scene before us. But this is not all. It is impossible not to be struck with the marked resemblance between the vision of the fifth seal and our Lord’s parable of the unjust judge (Luke xviii. 1-8): ‘And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.

Preterism is of Satan. It is a doctrine for 'itching' ears.

The apostle Paul wrote a warning for the church: “The time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear” (2 Timothy 4:3).

What does 2 Timothy 4:3 mean by itching ears? | GotQuestions.org

What does 2 Timothy 4:3 mean by itching ears? Why is the truth of the Word of God often the last thing people want to hear?

www.gotquestions.org

Your doctrine comes from the dreams of a teen-aged girl in the 1840s. Scofield and Untermyer didn't want to put up with sound doctrine.. They were promoting Christian Zionism.

My doctrine Makr, comes from Daniel, Ezekial, Jerimiah, Isaiah, Revelation, Matthew, Mark, John 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, Psalms and other books as you can cross reference these prophecies with books in both the OT and NT. They are legit.

You are not.

 

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There certainly is no shortage of the children of Jezebel in christianity and the world:

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 ]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

The Apocalypse, or Revelation to John, the last book of the Bible, is one of the most difficult to understand because it abounds in unfamiliar and extravagant symbolism, which at best appears unusual to the modern reader. Symbolic language, however, is one of the chief characteristics of apocalyptic literature, of which this book is an outstanding example. Such literature enjoyed wide popularity in both Jewish and Christian circles from ca. 200 B.C. to A.D. 200.

This book contains an account of visions in symbolic and allegorical language borrowed extensively from the Old Testament, especially Ezekiel, Zechariah, and Daniel. Whether or not these visions were real experiences of the author or simply literary conventions employed by him is an open question.

This much, however, is certain: symbolic descriptions are not to be taken as literal descriptions, nor is the symbolism meant to be pictured realistically. One would find it difficult and repulsive to visualize a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes; yet Jesus Christ is described in precisely such words (Rev 5:6). The author used these images to suggest Christ’s universal (seven) power (horns) and knowledge (eyes). A significant feature of apocalyptic writing is the use of symbolic colors, metals, garments (Rev 1:13–16; 3:18; 4:4; 6:1–8; 17:4; 19:8), and numbers (four signifies the world, six imperfection, seven totality or perfection, twelve Israel’s tribes or the apostles, one thousand immensity). Finally the vindictive language in the book (Rev 6:9–10; 18:1–19:4) is also to be understood symbolically and not literally. The cries for vengeance on the lips of Christian martyrs that sound so harsh are in fact literary devices the author employed to evoke in the reader and hearer a feeling of horror for apostasy and rebellion that will be severely punished by God.

The lurid descriptions of the punishment of Jezebel (Rev 2:22) and of the destruction of the great harlot, Babylon (Rev 16:9–19:2), are likewise literary devices. The metaphor of Babylon as harlot would be wrongly construed if interpreted literally. On the other hand, the stylized figure of the woman clothed with the sun (Rev 12:1–6), depicting the New Israel, may seem to be a negative stereotype. It is necessary to look beyond the literal meaning to see that these images mean to convey a sense of God’s wrath at sin in the former case and trust in God’s providential care over the church in the latter.

The Book of Revelation cannot be adequately understood except against the historical background that occasioned its writing. Like Daniel and other apocalypses, it was composed as resistance literature to meet a crisis. The book itself suggests that the crisis was ruthless persecution of the early church by the Roman authorities; the harlot Babylon symbolizes pagan Rome, the city on seven hills (Rev 17:9). The book is, then, an exhortation and admonition to Christians of the first century to stand firm in the faith and to avoid compromise with paganism, despite the threat of adversity and martyrdom; they are to await patiently the fulfillment of God’s mighty promises. The triumph of God in the world of men and women remains a mystery, to be accepted in faith and longed for in hope. It is a triumph that unfolded in the history of Jesus of Nazareth and continues to unfold in the history of the individual Christian who follows the way of the cross, even, if necessary, to a martyr’s death.

Though the perspective is eschatological—ultimate salvation and victory are said to take place at the end of the present age when Christ will come in glory at the parousia—the book presents the decisive struggle of Christ and his followers against Satan and his cohorts as already over. Christ’s overwhelming defeat of the kingdom of Satan ushered in the everlasting reign of God (Rev 11:15; 12:10). Even the forces of evil unwittingly carry out the divine plan (Rev 17:17), for God is the sovereign Lord of history.

The Book of Revelation had its origin in a time of crisis, but it remains valid and meaningful for Christians of all time. In the face of apparently insuperable evil, either from within or from without, all Christians are called to trust in Jesus’ promise, “Behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age” (Mt 28:20). Those who remain steadfast in their faith and confidence in the risen Lord need have no fear. Suffering, persecution, even death by martyrdom, though remaining impenetrable mysteries of evil, do not comprise an absurd dead end. No matter what adversity or sacrifice Christians may endure, they will in the end triumph over Satan and his forces because of their fidelity to Christ the victor. This is the enduring message of the book; it is a message of hope and consolation and challenge for all who dare to believe.

The author of the book calls himself John (Rev 1:1, 4, 9; 22:8), who because of his Christian faith has been exiled to the rocky island of Patmos, a Roman penal colony. Although he never claims to be John the apostle, whose name is attached to the fourth gospel, he was so identified by several of the early church Fathers, including Justin, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Cyprian, and Hippolytus. This identification, however, was denied by other Fathers, including Denis of Alexandria, Eusebius of Caesarea, Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory Nazianzen, and John Chrysostom. Indeed, vocabulary, grammar, and style make it doubtful that the book could have been put into its present form by the same person(s) responsible for the fourth gospel. Nevertheless, there are definite linguistic and theological affinities between the two books. The tone of the letters to the seven churches (Rev 1:4–3:22) is indicative of the great authority the author enjoyed over the Christian communities in Asia. It is possible, therefore, that he was a disciple of John the apostle, who is traditionally associated with that part of the world. The date of the book in its present form is probably near the end of the reign of Domitian (A.D. 81–96), a fierce persecutor of the Christians.