ANALYSIS: Democrats Have A Colonel Vindman Problem

That’s fair, I’m at troll level thus far in this thread, but I took this thread as a bash on the guy in uniform thread...
I see. :icon_rolleyes:
Can't bear to see anyone in uniform questioned or doubted eh? That's quite a metamorphosis for the left just in the last decade or so when our military was seen as killer lackeys for the Bush and Cheney war machine.

We are seeing quite a few sudden reversals since the Obama years. I never thought I'd see the left defending the CIA AND the military but here we are (the few exceptions like Kerry and McCain notwithstanding).

Alex Vindman Is Living Proof That The Deep State Exists, And Is Corrupt
He's a puffed up company man, loyal to the "Interagency", and perfectly at peace with ignoring orders from the President if, in his judgement, those orders conflict with the interests of
the Interagency. There is deep state written all over this man.

I’m happy to come above board and discuss specifics though. Where do you want to take it?
You can start by detailing what it is specifically that you take issue with in Byron York's analysis of Vindman.

Actually...what's difficult to "bear" is the way you guys have ZERO problem with someone UNTIL they speak "truth to power" on Trump.

Then, of a sudden, out of nowhere - they are filth.

Trumpism is a cult.

It is really more and more cult like.

They demand personal loyalty to Trump. They see anyone who legally reports concerns through legal channels as 'traitors'. They see anyone who they see as any threat to their leader as a 'traitor'.

All of them equate loyalty to Trump to loyalty to America- and lets be frank- they put loyalty to Trump before loyalty to country.
 
ANALYSIS: Democrats Have A Colonel Vindman Problem



ANALYSIS: Democrats have a Colonel Vindman problem
November 11, 2019 ~ By Byron York
House Democrats conducted their impeachment interviews in secret, but Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman still emerged as star of the show. Appearing at his Oct. 29 deposition in full dress uniform, the decorated Army officer, now a White House National Security Council Ukraine expert, was the first witness who had actually listened to the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the heart of the Democratic impeachment campaign. Even though lawmakers were forbidden to discuss his testimony in public, Vindman's leaked opening statement that "I did not think it was proper [for Trump] to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen" exploded on news reports. Vindman has not yet been scheduled to appear before the Democrats' public impeachment hearings. When that happens, he will undoubtedly again play a prominent role. But there will be a difference. The public now has a transcript of Vindman's deposition. And those who have taken the trouble to read the 340-page document will have a different picture of Vindman's testimony than the one presented in early media reports.
Yes, Vindman testified repeatedly that he "thought it was wrong" for Trump, speaking with Zelensky, to bring up the 2016 election and allegations of Ukraine-related corruption on the part of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. But the Vindman transcript also showed a witness whose testimony was filled with opinion, with impressions, who had little new to offer, who withheld important information from the committee, who was steeped in a bureaucracy that has often been hostile to the president, and whose lawyer, presumably with Vindman's approval, expressed unmistakable disdain, verging on contempt, for members of Congress who asked inconvenient questions. In short, Vindman's testimony was not the slam-dunk hit Democrats portrayed it to be.



Comment:
How many times has a President had his confidential phone calls put out in the public domain right after he took office? No wonder President Trump does not trust the State Department along with other agencies.
From the beginning, I've given Vindman the benefit of the doubt because of his military service. My opinion then was influenced by an article I read urging Republicans to lay off of him when he first came onto the scene. At this point, though, things just don't feel right. A Ukranian born man spending his time-sharing under the table advisement to Ukraine in order to handicap U.S. foreign policy he didn't like is a bridge too far. If we can spend two years accusing Trump of being a Russian again, I think Vindman is probably fair game. I don't care if you don't like the decisions of the President, they are the elected party in this equation. High-minded, arrogant bureaucrats are not supposed to be running this country.
Being removed from the NSC is the least of Vindman's worries. When he's done being a pawn for the Progressive Marxist Socialist Left and especially Adam Schiff, he's almost certainly going to bear scrutiny under the UCMJ and/or by the DOJ for his illegal leaking. What he shared with the whistle-blower was top secret information and Vindman has no special immunity to go outside of the chain of command with his complaints.
This guy needs to be nailed to the wall. Letting someone subvert the Office of the Presidency the way he did, including likely committing crimes, can not stand. For the sake of everyone's trust in our institutions, a message must be sent that this won't be tolerated.
Sometimes it’s best to step away from the telescope and look in a mirror.





Indeed. You should follow your advice
 
ANALYSIS: Democrats Have A Colonel Vindman Problem



ANALYSIS: Democrats have a Colonel Vindman problem
November 11, 2019 ~ By Byron York
House Democrats conducted their impeachment interviews in secret, but Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman still emerged as star of the show. Appearing at his Oct. 29 deposition in full dress uniform, the decorated Army officer, now a White House National Security Council Ukraine expert, was the first witness who had actually listened to the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the heart of the Democratic impeachment campaign. Even though lawmakers were forbidden to discuss his testimony in public, Vindman's leaked opening statement that "I did not think it was proper [for Trump] to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen" exploded on news reports. Vindman has not yet been scheduled to appear before the Democrats' public impeachment hearings. When that happens, he will undoubtedly again play a prominent role. But there will be a difference. The public now has a transcript of Vindman's deposition. And those who have taken the trouble to read the 340-page document will have a different picture of Vindman's testimony than the one presented in early media reports.
Yes, Vindman testified repeatedly that he "thought it was wrong" for Trump, speaking with Zelensky, to bring up the 2016 election and allegations of Ukraine-related corruption on the part of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. But the Vindman transcript also showed a witness whose testimony was filled with opinion, with impressions, who had little new to offer, who withheld important information from the committee, who was steeped in a bureaucracy that has often been hostile to the president, and whose lawyer, presumably with Vindman's approval, expressed unmistakable disdain, verging on contempt, for members of Congress who asked inconvenient questions. In short, Vindman's testimony was not the slam-dunk hit Democrats portrayed it to be.



Comment:
How many times has a President had his confidential phone calls put out in the public domain right after he took office? No wonder President Trump does not trust the State Department along with other agencies.
From the beginning, I've given Vindman the benefit of the doubt because of his military service. My opinion then was influenced by an article I read urging Republicans to lay off of him when he first came onto the scene. At this point, though, things just don't feel right. A Ukranian born man spending his time-sharing under the table advisement to Ukraine in order to handicap U.S. foreign policy he didn't like is a bridge too far. If we can spend two years accusing Trump of being a Russian again, I think Vindman is probably fair game. I don't care if you don't like the decisions of the President, they are the elected party in this equation. High-minded, arrogant bureaucrats are not supposed to be running this country.
Being removed from the NSC is the least of Vindman's worries. When he's done being a pawn for the Progressive Marxist Socialist Left and especially Adam Schiff, he's almost certainly going to bear scrutiny under the UCMJ and/or by the DOJ for his illegal leaking. What he shared with the whistle-blower was top secret information and Vindman has no special immunity to go outside of the chain of command with his complaints.
This guy needs to be nailed to the wall. Letting someone subvert the Office of the Presidency the way he did, including likely committing crimes, can not stand. For the sake of everyone's trust in our institutions, a message must be sent that this won't be tolerated.
Sometimes it’s best to step away from the telescope and look in a mirror.





Indeed. You should follow your advice
indeed I do
 
ANALYSIS: Democrats Have A Colonel Vindman Problem



ANALYSIS: Democrats have a Colonel Vindman problem
November 11, 2019 ~ By Byron York
House Democrats conducted their impeachment interviews in secret, but Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman still emerged as star of the show. Appearing at his Oct. 29 deposition in full dress uniform, the decorated Army officer, now a White House National Security Council Ukraine expert, was the first witness who had actually listened to the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the heart of the Democratic impeachment campaign. Even though lawmakers were forbidden to discuss his testimony in public, Vindman's leaked opening statement that "I did not think it was proper [for Trump] to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen" exploded on news reports. Vindman has not yet been scheduled to appear before the Democrats' public impeachment hearings. When that happens, he will undoubtedly again play a prominent role. But there will be a difference. The public now has a transcript of Vindman's deposition. And those who have taken the trouble to read the 340-page document will have a different picture of Vindman's testimony than the one presented in early media reports.
Yes, Vindman testified repeatedly that he "thought it was wrong" for Trump, speaking with Zelensky, to bring up the 2016 election and allegations of Ukraine-related corruption on the part of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. But the Vindman transcript also showed a witness whose testimony was filled with opinion, with impressions, who had little new to offer, who withheld important information from the committee, who was steeped in a bureaucracy that has often been hostile to the president, and whose lawyer, presumably with Vindman's approval, expressed unmistakable disdain, verging on contempt, for members of Congress who asked inconvenient questions. In short, Vindman's testimony was not the slam-dunk hit Democrats portrayed it to be.



Comment:
How many times has a President had his confidential phone calls put out in the public domain right after he took office? No wonder President Trump does not trust the State Department along with other agencies.
From the beginning, I've given Vindman the benefit of the doubt because of his military service. My opinion then was influenced by an article I read urging Republicans to lay off of him when he first came onto the scene. At this point, though, things just don't feel right. A Ukranian born man spending his time-sharing under the table advisement to Ukraine in order to handicap U.S. foreign policy he didn't like is a bridge too far. If we can spend two years accusing Trump of being a Russian again, I think Vindman is probably fair game. I don't care if you don't like the decisions of the President, they are the elected party in this equation. High-minded, arrogant bureaucrats are not supposed to be running this country.
Being removed from the NSC is the least of Vindman's worries. When he's done being a pawn for the Progressive Marxist Socialist Left and especially Adam Schiff, he's almost certainly going to bear scrutiny under the UCMJ and/or by the DOJ for his illegal leaking. What he shared with the whistle-blower was top secret information and Vindman has no special immunity to go outside of the chain of command with his complaints.
This guy needs to be nailed to the wall. Letting someone subvert the Office of the Presidency the way he did, including likely committing crimes, can not stand. For the sake of everyone's trust in our institutions, a message must be sent that this won't be tolerated.
Sometimes it’s best to step away from the telescope and look in a mirror.





Indeed. You should follow your advice
indeed I do





Your position on this says otherwise
 
That’s fair, I’m at troll level thus far in this thread, but I took this thread as a bash on the guy in uniform thread...
I see. :icon_rolleyes:
Can't bear to see anyone in uniform questioned or doubted eh? That's quite a metamorphosis for the left just in the last decade or so when our military was seen as killer lackeys for the Bush and Cheney war machine.

We are seeing quite a few sudden reversals since the Obama years. I never thought I'd see the left defending the CIA AND the military but here we are (the few exceptions like Kerry and McCain notwithstanding).

Alex Vindman Is Living Proof That The Deep State Exists, And Is Corrupt
He's a puffed up company man, loyal to the "Interagency", and perfectly at peace with ignoring orders from the President if, in his judgement, those orders conflict with the interests of
the Interagency. There is deep state written all over this man.

I’m happy to come above board and discuss specifics though. Where do you want to take it?
You can start by detailing what it is specifically that you take issue with in Byron York's analysis of Vindman.

Actually...what's difficult to "bear" is the way you guys have ZERO problem with someone UNTIL they speak "truth to power" on Trump.

Then, of a sudden, out of nowhere - they are filth.

Trumpism is a cult.

It is really more and more cult like.

They demand personal loyalty to Trump. They see anyone who legally reports concerns through legal channels as 'traitors'. They see anyone who they see as any threat to their leader as a 'traitor'.

All of them equate loyalty to Trump to loyalty to America- and lets be frank- they put loyalty to Trump before loyalty to country.

It's totally freaky. I've never seen so many people branded as traitors and treasonous simply for opposing Trump or - more often, for being loyal to the office of the president, the Constitution and the country than to the person of Trump.
 
Is it any wonder why people are disgusted by Trump supporters like yourself?! #ProudAndDeplorable


Trump supporter? No. Trump policy supporter? Mostly. Little gubmet queer who had to dress up and play army to be taken seriously supporter? Absolutely not. Fuck him, fuck his uniform, and fuck his purple hart.
It’s Purple Heart smart guy. Back to the bunker with you, your kind is just noise pollution.
Is it any wonder why people are disgusted by Trump supporters like yourself?! #ProudAndDeplorable


Trump supporter? No. Trump policy supporter? Mostly. Little gubmet queer who had to dress up and play army to be taken seriously supporter? Absolutely not. Fuck him, fuck his uniform, and fuck his purple hart.
It’s Purple Heart smart guy. Back to the bunker with you, your kind is just noise pollution.


View attachment 289492


Military Medals


Wonder if that's where John Kerry bought his to? Libtards are big on that. Buying medals to spruce up their uniforms.

Conservatards seem big on bashing military heroes.


Only fake ones.

They only become fake when they stand up to Trump.
 
Trump supporter? No. Trump policy supporter? Mostly. Little gubmet queer who had to dress up and play army to be taken seriously supporter? Absolutely not. Fuck him, fuck his uniform, and fuck his purple hart.
It’s Purple Heart smart guy. Back to the bunker with you, your kind is just noise pollution.
Trump supporter? No. Trump policy supporter? Mostly. Little gubmet queer who had to dress up and play army to be taken seriously supporter? Absolutely not. Fuck him, fuck his uniform, and fuck his purple hart.
It’s Purple Heart smart guy. Back to the bunker with you, your kind is just noise pollution.


View attachment 289492


Military Medals


Wonder if that's where John Kerry bought his to? Libtards are big on that. Buying medals to spruce up their uniforms.

Conservatards seem big on bashing military heroes.


Only fake ones.

They only become fake when they stand up to Trump.


He never stood up to trump. All he did was show up in an army uniform and talk. More will come out about him later. It's already pretty clear he is a scumbag who bad mouthed his guys to a hostil power. Can't wait till they swiftboat the piece of beet eating trash.
 
ANALYSIS: Democrats Have A Colonel Vindman Problem



ANALYSIS: Democrats have a Colonel Vindman problem
November 11, 2019 ~ By Byron York
House Democrats conducted their impeachment interviews in secret, but Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman still emerged as star of the show. Appearing at his Oct. 29 deposition in full dress uniform, the decorated Army officer, now a White House National Security Council Ukraine expert, was the first witness who had actually listened to the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the heart of the Democratic impeachment campaign. Even though lawmakers were forbidden to discuss his testimony in public, Vindman's leaked opening statement that "I did not think it was proper [for Trump] to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen" exploded on news reports. Vindman has not yet been scheduled to appear before the Democrats' public impeachment hearings. When that happens, he will undoubtedly again play a prominent role. But there will be a difference. The public now has a transcript of Vindman's deposition. And those who have taken the trouble to read the 340-page document will have a different picture of Vindman's testimony than the one presented in early media reports.
Yes, Vindman testified repeatedly that he "thought it was wrong" for Trump, speaking with Zelensky, to bring up the 2016 election and allegations of Ukraine-related corruption on the part of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. But the Vindman transcript also showed a witness whose testimony was filled with opinion, with impressions, who had little new to offer, who withheld important information from the committee, who was steeped in a bureaucracy that has often been hostile to the president, and whose lawyer, presumably with Vindman's approval, expressed unmistakable disdain, verging on contempt, for members of Congress who asked inconvenient questions. In short, Vindman's testimony was not the slam-dunk hit Democrats portrayed it to be.



Comment:
How many times has a President had his confidential phone calls put out in the public domain right after he took office? No wonder President Trump does not trust the State Department along with other agencies.
From the beginning, I've given Vindman the benefit of the doubt because of his military service. My opinion then was influenced by an article I read urging Republicans to lay off of him when he first came onto the scene. At this point, though, things just don't feel right. A Ukranian born man spending his time-sharing under the table advisement to Ukraine in order to handicap U.S. foreign policy he didn't like is a bridge too far. If we can spend two years accusing Trump of being a Russian again, I think Vindman is probably fair game. I don't care if you don't like the decisions of the President, they are the elected party in this equation. High-minded, arrogant bureaucrats are not supposed to be running this country.
Being removed from the NSC is the least of Vindman's worries. When he's done being a pawn for the Progressive Marxist Socialist Left and especially Adam Schiff, he's almost certainly going to bear scrutiny under the UCMJ and/or by the DOJ for his illegal leaking. What he shared with the whistle-blower was top secret information and Vindman has no special immunity to go outside of the chain of command with his complaints.
This guy needs to be nailed to the wall. Letting someone subvert the Office of the Presidency the way he did, including likely committing crimes, can not stand. For the sake of everyone's trust in our institutions, a message must be sent that this won't be tolerated.
Sometimes it’s best to step away from the telescope and look in a mirror.





Indeed. You should follow your advice
indeed I do





Your position on this says otherwise
How so?
 
That’s fair, I’m at troll level thus far in this thread, but I took this thread as a bash on the guy in uniform thread...
I see. :icon_rolleyes:
Can't bear to see anyone in uniform questioned or doubted eh? That's quite a metamorphosis for the left just in the last decade or so when our military was seen as killer lackeys for the Bush and Cheney war machine.

We are seeing quite a few sudden reversals since the Obama years. I never thought I'd see the left defending the CIA AND the military but here we are (the few exceptions like Kerry and McCain notwithstanding).

Alex Vindman Is Living Proof That The Deep State Exists, And Is Corrupt
He's a puffed up company man, loyal to the "Interagency", and perfectly at peace with ignoring orders from the President if, in his judgement, those orders conflict with the interests of
the Interagency. There is deep state written all over this man.

I’m happy to come above board and discuss specifics though. Where do you want to take it?
You can start by detailing what it is specifically that you take issue with in Byron York's analysis of Vindman.

Actually...what's difficult to "bear" is the way you guys have ZERO problem with someone UNTIL they speak "truth to power" on Trump.

Then, of a sudden, out of nowhere - they are filth.

Trumpism is a cult.

It is really more and more cult like.

They demand personal loyalty to Trump. They see anyone who legally reports concerns through legal channels as 'traitors'. They see anyone who they see as any threat to their leader as a 'traitor'.

All of them equate loyalty to Trump to loyalty to America- and lets be frank- they put loyalty to Trump before loyalty to country.

It's totally freaky. I've never seen so many people branded as traitors and treasonous simply for opposing Trump or - more often, for being loyal to the office of the president, the Constitution and the country than to the person of Trump.

Remember- when this started- they labeled as 'traitors' those who leaked conversations within the White House.
Then it became anyone who participated in a legal investigation of the Trump campaign.
Then it became those who legally reported through legal channels concerns about whether the President was violating the law.
Now it is anyone who testifies to Congress about what they have actually seen or heard.

Nixon is sure wishing he had this kind of cult following when he was being investigated for Watergate!
 
It’s Purple Heart smart guy. Back to the bunker with you, your kind is just noise pollution.
It’s Purple Heart smart guy. Back to the bunker with you, your kind is just noise pollution.


View attachment 289492


Military Medals


Wonder if that's where John Kerry bought his to? Libtards are big on that. Buying medals to spruce up their uniforms.

Conservatards seem big on bashing military heroes.


Only fake ones.

They only become fake when they stand up to Trump.


He never stood up to trump. All he did was show up in an army uniform and talk. More will come out about him later. It's already pretty clear he is a scumbag who bad mouthed his guys to a hostil power. Can't wait till they swiftboat the piece of beet eating trash.

Oh certainly he will be swiftboated- because that is what the right does with any decorated military veteran they support instead of the draft dodger in chief.
 
View attachment 289492


Military Medals


Wonder if that's where John Kerry bought his to? Libtards are big on that. Buying medals to spruce up their uniforms.

Conservatards seem big on bashing military heroes.


Only fake ones.

They only become fake when they stand up to Trump.


He never stood up to trump. All he did was show up in an army uniform and talk. More will come out about him later. It's already pretty clear he is a scumbag who bad mouthed his guys to a hostil power. Can't wait till they swiftboat the piece of beet eating trash.

Oh certainly he will be swiftboated- because that is what the right does with any decorated military veteran they support instead of the draft dodger in chief.


Na, just the ones who lie about their service. If Vindman had any dignity he would go the vice admiral Boorda rout to save face.
 
ANALYSIS: Democrats Have A Colonel Vindman Problem



ANALYSIS: Democrats have a Colonel Vindman problem
November 11, 2019 ~ By Byron York
House Democrats conducted their impeachment interviews in secret, but Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman still emerged as star of the show. Appearing at his Oct. 29 deposition in full dress uniform, the decorated Army officer, now a White House National Security Council Ukraine expert, was the first witness who had actually listened to the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the heart of the Democratic impeachment campaign. Even though lawmakers were forbidden to discuss his testimony in public, Vindman's leaked opening statement that "I did not think it was proper [for Trump] to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen" exploded on news reports. Vindman has not yet been scheduled to appear before the Democrats' public impeachment hearings. When that happens, he will undoubtedly again play a prominent role. But there will be a difference. The public now has a transcript of Vindman's deposition. And those who have taken the trouble to read the 340-page document will have a different picture of Vindman's testimony than the one presented in early media reports.
Yes, Vindman testified repeatedly that he "thought it was wrong" for Trump, speaking with Zelensky, to bring up the 2016 election and allegations of Ukraine-related corruption on the part of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. But the Vindman transcript also showed a witness whose testimony was filled with opinion, with impressions, who had little new to offer, who withheld important information from the committee, who was steeped in a bureaucracy that has often been hostile to the president, and whose lawyer, presumably with Vindman's approval, expressed unmistakable disdain, verging on contempt, for members of Congress who asked inconvenient questions. In short, Vindman's testimony was not the slam-dunk hit Democrats portrayed it to be.



Comment:
How many times has a President had his confidential phone calls put out in the public domain right after he took office? No wonder President Trump does not trust the State Department along with other agencies.
From the beginning, I've given Vindman the benefit of the doubt because of his military service. My opinion then was influenced by an article I read urging Republicans to lay off of him when he first came onto the scene. At this point, though, things just don't feel right. A Ukranian born man spending his time-sharing under the table advisement to Ukraine in order to handicap U.S. foreign policy he didn't like is a bridge too far. If we can spend two years accusing Trump of being a Russian again, I think Vindman is probably fair game. I don't care if you don't like the decisions of the President, they are the elected party in this equation. High-minded, arrogant bureaucrats are not supposed to be running this country.
Being removed from the NSC is the least of Vindman's worries. When he's done being a pawn for the Progressive Marxist Socialist Left and especially Adam Schiff, he's almost certainly going to bear scrutiny under the UCMJ and/or by the DOJ for his illegal leaking. What he shared with the whistle-blower was top secret information and Vindman has no special immunity to go outside of the chain of command with his complaints.
This guy needs to be nailed to the wall. Letting someone subvert the Office of the Presidency the way he did, including likely committing crimes, can not stand. For the sake of everyone's trust in our institutions, a message must be sent that this won't be tolerated.
I have news, They loyalty is to the country.

Excusing the bad sentence.

Explain the process whereby they show loyalty to the country.
 
Trump supporter? No. Trump policy supporter? Mostly. Little gubmet queer who had to dress up and play army to be taken seriously supporter? Absolutely not. Fuck him, fuck his uniform, and fuck his purple hart.
DoD hands out medals to officers like Halloween candy.

Show me an E7 or a WO4 with a chest full of medals and I am impressed. An officer, lol, no.
 
i disagree with that. You should always be able to give an objective look at the facts. If not you shouldn’t be in the conversation.
Yes, I agree with you. You shouldn't be here.
You haven't addressed a single fact in favor of snarky biased put downs. Your lack of self awareness is shocking.
That is known as 'Rabid Wokester Syndrome', a combination of 'Mind Blindness', over-the-top arrogance and TDS.
 
I am against Vindman because he is a perfect manifestation the Deep State that supposedly does not exist (if one were to listen to leftists).
His allegiance is to this "Interagency", which is the virtual Deep State, above all else.
He refuses orders from the President and in reality has no business wearing a uniform and pretending he is a good patriot.
Why he hasn't been brought up on charges from the Military Code of Conduct is beyond me.
He is in a protected category of US citizen, aka 'the Gay Mafia'.
 
Conservatards seem big on bashing military heroes.
And Woketards are big on treason if it benefits their cause and never break ranks even in the face of national obliteration.

These are very dangerous times and we definitely do not need arrogant Center of the Universe military traitors leaking secret phone calls to the embarrassment of our nation in the eyes of foreign governments.

Who trusts us with sensitive information with little queers like Venderpants working at NSC?
 
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Oh, so you read the Democrat book on that topic, did you?

Is it all that surprising that they have filed impeachment charges against every elected Republican President for the last 79 years?

Not to me, that is what Democrats do, slander, cheat and steal.
 

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