Americans spend more on their healthcare compared to any other country in the world. But we are not anywhere near having the best healthcare system.

[gipper]

Of course, the United States healthcare system should be given some credit. We have wonderful nurses, doctors, healthcare workers. Of course, we have a better healthcare system than much of the world. But again, just look at the fax America is the wealthiest and strongest country in the world… yet we do not have the best healthcare system. Yet we spend more money than any other country on our healthcare. So we should be number one when it comes to quality of healthcare, but we are not.

They aren’t all wonderful. Nearly all US doctors still support the clot shot.

 

[Independent thinker]

We the American taxpayers have spent trillions of dollars of our money invading Iraq in 2003. We spent hundreds of billions of dollars of our hard earned money, giving it away to Israel and Ukraine for their wars which have zero effect on America. This is unbelievable. A better route would be to allow individual Americans to send money to Ukraine or Israel if they want to. But not trillions of dollars of our hard earned tax money that’s not right my friends.

The American people spend more on our healthcare compared to any other country of the world. But we are something like 10th Place in the world when it comes to quality healthcare. That doesn’t make any sense. …why it happens is due to the greed of the health insurance industry, and the stupidity of the American politicians, along with greed and selfishness of the American politicians some of them make big money from the healthcare lobbies and big Pharma. There are those politicians who want change for the better, but their voices are not as strong as they should be.

All of that money trillions of dollars that was used in a way that did not benefit The American people should have been used to eradicate homelessness and have the greatest healthcare system in world history. We are the most powerful country in world history. America’s the greatest country in the world history. It’s time to live up to it. Free healthcare for all American citizens and the absolute best Nursing homes for American taxpayers when they get older, and perhaps have dementia or Alzheimer’s disease, or are unable to take care of themselves.

How Does the U.S. Healthcare System Compare to Other Countries?

Despite higher healthcare spending, America’s health outcomes are not any better than those in other developed countries. Despite higher healthcare spending, America’s health outcomes are not any better than those in other developed countries.

www.pgpf.org

Unfortunately, Democrats today don’t talk about this issue. They brainwashed their supporters to support Ukraine and Israel, and to support the evil idea that America has a racist imperialist history.

It used to be the that the Democratic Party under John Kennedy , Andrew Jackson and FDR , and other great men of our history stood up for what was right. Working toward things like a better healthcare system.

Liberal/socialist hogwash.

 

[Mr Natural]

They aren’t all wonderful. Nearly all US doctors still support the clot shot.

What do they know?

They’re only doctors.

 

[Godboy]

So solve the problem of illegals and stop whining. Fine employers who hire illegals. Most will self deport in less than six months.

What the fuck makes you think CONSERVATIVES are the ones againt fining employers? Its one of the main reasons we want national I.D.s, to stop employers from hiring them.

 

[leftwinger]

We the American taxpayers have spent trillions of dollars of our money invading Iraq in 2003. We spent hundreds of billions of dollars of our hard earned money, giving it away to Israel and Ukraine for their wars which have zero effect on America. This is unbelievable. A better route would be to allow individual Americans to send money to Ukraine or Israel if they want to. But not trillions of dollars of our hard earned tax money that’s not right my friends.

The American people spend more on our healthcare compared to any other country of the world. But we are something like 10th Place in the world when it comes to quality healthcare. That doesn’t make any sense. …why it happens is due to the greed of the health insurance industry, and the stupidity of the American politicians, along with greed and selfishness of the American politicians some of them make big money from the healthcare lobbies and big Pharma. There are those politicians who want change for the better, but their voices are not as strong as they should be.

All of that money trillions of dollars that was used in a way that did not benefit The American people should have been used to eradicate homelessness and have the greatest healthcare system in world history. We are the most powerful country in world history. America’s the greatest country in the world history. It’s time to live up to it. Free healthcare for all American citizens and the absolute best Nursing homes for American taxpayers when they get older, and perhaps have dementia or Alzheimer’s disease, or are unable to take care of themselves.

How Does the U.S. Healthcare System Compare to Other Countries?

Despite higher healthcare spending, America’s health outcomes are not any better than those in other developed countries. Despite higher healthcare spending, America’s health outcomes are not any better than those in other developed countries.

www.pgpf.org

Unfortunately, Democrats today don’t talk about this issue. They brainwashed their supporters to support Ukraine and Israel, and to support the evil idea that America has a racist imperialist history.

It used to be the that the Democratic Party under John Kennedy , Andrew Jackson and FDR , and other great men of our history stood up for what was right. Working toward things like a better healthcare system.

the paperwork, mailings, plans, regulation. Obiden 1 made it all more complex, more costly, more ridiculous than ever before. All to insure 9 million without. And set the table for Illegals to get GOVT Medicaid or Medicare.

the $8000 deductible per person. The $12K out of pocket max per family per year……thru the moon Alice!

 

[candycorn]

Our healthcare system is not bad if you have a lot of money.

Or insurance. The drop off between the county hospital and the private one I work for is the difference between Branson and Vegas. Just to clarify...the County is Branson and I work for Vegas.

Also, people from here fly all over the world to get medical treatments that are too expensive here. It is called Medical Tourism, look it up and educate yourself.

Wow...do you think that is a big secret? I mean seriously...did you just learn about this?

I’m in my 50’s. Medical tourism has been going on for at least that long.

Not to mention for so many people their insurance is tied to their job.

It’s a crazy system but nobody in power has the will to change it--oh wait; Obama did want to change that!!! And how did that go over with the red states?

No other insurance is tied to ones’ job.

I had a friend/colleague die this past week, she had been sick since 2020. She could never quit her job no matter how bad she felt or how sick she was because she would have lost her insurance and left her family a life long medical debt to pay off.

There are thousands of stories like that if not millions. Capitalism at it’s cruelest in my view.

My point was that if you can afford it (I may have mentioned that in the post you responded to--you can look and educate yourself if you wish) we have the best system there is on the planet...period. Bar none.

 

[leftwinger]

What the fuck makes you think CONSERVATIVES are the ones againt fining employers? Its one of the main reasons we want national I.D.s, to stop employers from hiring them.

They don’t hire them. To get in any reputable company you got to have it all buttoned up. They get into Service companies or Temp workers perhaps? Merry maids as they ransack rich folks niightstands.

 

[gipper]

What do they know?

They’re only doctors.

They do know one thing. How to make money.

 

[alang1216]

Im not for communism in the USA . And Obamacare did not solve our problems. you see the statistics. America is the richest country in the world. Americans spend more in healthcare than any other country in the world yet we don’t have the best healthcare system. That’s not right. This isn’t about politics that simply doesn’t make any sense to have so much wealth in a country and not have the best healthcare system..

Many Americans would say we need to change things. It doesn’t necessarily mean national healthcare, but some kind of tweaks to the system. Things that make sense ie instead of spending trillions of dollars on unnecessary foreign wars use that money to make America a healthier place.

Obamacare was exactly what was needed, unfortunately the GOP opted for politics over policy and stonewalled or repealed most of it. We have too many poor people who get their primary care in the ER, the most expensive way of providing it and it means they get no preventative care or early treatment. They make healthcare more expensive and worse for everyone.

 

[Polishprince]

In short, we must have free healthcare for all Americans. And there’s no more excuses. People often say well that’s communism or some other nonsense remark that doesn’t make any sense. Again, we already used our money to fund the invasion of Iraq in 2003. That’s trillions of dollars. We already have used our money to give away to Israel hundreds of billions of dollars. 100 billion to Ukraine 150 billion to Egypt. You gonna call that socialism or communism to the naysayers? I don’t think so.

So therefore, we do not spend trillions of dollars for useless wars you spend that money on the American people. The American taxpayer dollars go toward having the greatest healthcare system in the history of the world system, where old people can have the best nursing homes and they basically pay for it with their taxes. That’s not communism and that is a Christian thing to do that’s the American thing to do.

Actually America does have free health care for the indigent. Its called "Medicaid".


Those who can afford to pay for their own healthcare do, and why shouldn't they?

I can't think of a good reason why an old lady should have to eat cat food so she can pay taxes to pay for Warren Buffett's Viagra.

 

[leftwinger]

Actually America does have free health care for the indigent. Its called "Medicaid".


Those who can afford to pay for their own healthcare do, and why shouldn't they?

I can't think of a good reason why an old lady should have to eat cat food so she can pay taxes to pay for Warren Buffett's Viagra.

the problem comes in at the level of who “can afford to pay”. The family making $80K in CA paying $2500 rent in SJ. They can pay and end up “poor” forever stck at that living kevel always chasing. The “poor” ar $37K live the same? One size fits all.

 

[SweetTea]

It’s not rare to see for example a surgery or operation that would cost an American $50,000 …but if they go to a different country to get it done where the healthcare quality is just as good if not better the cost is under $5000.

Pay for doctors in other counties is significantly lower than in the US. The best and the brightest don’t necessarily go into medicine in those countries. The quality is absolutely NOT as good in other countries, other than perhaps a tonsillectomy or other very routine surgeries.

 

[SweetTea]

So solve the problem of illegals and stop whining. Fine employers who hire illegals. Most will self deport in less than six months.

It’s funny that you think they are all coming over by the millions per year to work. Biden has promised them “free” stuff. They can vote in some local elections. They can get drivers licenses. You have been duped.

 

[SweetTea]

They do know one thing. How to make money.

Maybe we can send some of the millions of illegals crossing the border to 1 month medical school. They will surely work for low wages. I am sure quality will be just fine.

 

[Seymour Flops]

In short, we must have free healthcare for all Americans.

What? Who is going to provide this free health care? Are their doctors and nurses waiting to work for free, and medical supply companies waiting to give away their products, and real estate developers who will build hospitals and give them to those pro bono medical providers?

Don't you mean to say, "we must have healthcare in which nobody pays for their own, but the government selects those who will be expected to pay for 'everyone's' health care?"

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Pay for doctors in other counties is significantly lower than in the US. The best and the brightest don’t necessarily go into medicine in those countries. The quality is absolutely NOT as good in other countries, other than perhaps a tonsillectomy or other very routine surgeries.

there’s multiple sources saying that healthcare is better in countries like New Zealand, Switzerland, Germany, and the Netherlands.

Doctors in Canada makes slightly less than doctors in America. But you are right it appears that a doctor in Germany might make about 180,000 a year compared to America where they make 360,000.

But you see that’s all the more reason why things don’t make sense in America. If doctors make the most money in America, if healthcare costs are highest in America, it doesn’t make any sense that when it comes to quality of healthcare, the United States scores 10th out of all the countries in the world. We should be number one.

Again, here’s the most important point. Trillions of dollars we spent in invading Iraq. Wasted hundreds of billions of dollars on Ukraine and Israel and Egypt. Imagine if that money was used to build nursing homes for American citizens when they get older. It’s a astronomical portion of money, and surely it would help with healthcare.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

What? Who is going to provide this free health care? Are their doctors and nurses waiting to work for free, and medical supply companies waiting to give away their products, and real estate developers who will build hospitals and give them to those pro bono medical providers?

Don't you mean to say, "we must have healthcare in which nobody pays for their own, but the government selects those who will be expected to pay for 'everyone's' health care?"

Use the trillions of dollars on healthcare in America instead of using it to invade countries for no purpose. And don’t give hundreds of billions to Israel, Ukraine and Egypt.

Do people call it communism when the American taxpayer foots the bill for the trillions of dollars we used to invade Iraq?

I’m not saying we should have socialized medicine. But I think that there can be some adjustments to our system to make things much better. Clearly this current health care system isn’t up to par. We have the 10th best healthcare quality in the world. It should be number 1 especially because healthcare costs in America for the American citizen are the highest in the world.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Use the trillions of dollars on healthcare in America instead of using it to invade countries for no purpose. And don’t give hundreds of billions to Israel, Ukraine and Egypt.

OK, so "free" was not the word you were looking for? If it costs trillions of dollars, then it is not "free."

If there were a vote to stop spending trillions on foreign misadventures and spend it on U.S. medical care, I'd vote yes. But I'd rather vote yes on stop spending trillions on foreign misadventures and spend it on paying down the debt, or giving it back to the private sector which is were the medical innovation comes from.

Point is that pointing to one incredible example of wasteful government spending is a poor justification for proposing aother wasteful spending project.

Do people call it communism when the American taxpayer foots the bill for the trillions of dollars we used to invade Iraq?

I’m not saying we should have socialized medicine. But I think that there can be some adjustments to our system to make things much better. Clearly this current health care system isn’t up to par. We have the 10th best healthcare quality in the world. It should be number 1 especially because healthcare costs in America for the American citizen are the highest in the world.

For typical Americans, the U.S. health system is the best in the world. The health outcomes so often cited, such as infant mortality rate, are skewed by our large number of welfare recipients, essentially paid to have babies, and illegal immigrants, who are incentivized to cross the border while pregnant, even if already in labor, to be the parent of an American citizen.

Both the welfare lifestyle and the illegal immigrant lifestyle are incredibly destructive to health outcomes, and each of those is typically encouraged by the same people who advocate socialized medicine.

When I had cancer six years ago, my only complaint about the quality of care was that at times it seemed more than needed. The hospital was like a luxury hotel, complete with art and jewelry stores. The doctors did not work for the hospital, they leased space and paid fees to practice there, so each had an incentive to provide the best service possible. My insurance company footed the bills other than some co-pays nad deductibles.

I didn't have to even look at the bills while going through treatments. My wife looked at them and saw that they were paid already.

I'm not a rich executive with a Cadilac policy, I'm just a hard-wroking school teacher. I have a policy that costs a good amount, but came through when I needed it. It's an in-network policy, so I had the same organization taking care of me and keeping track of my records.

Yes, Health insurance could be improved. For one thing, stop requiring middle-aged people with no kids to pay for insurance that covers gender-affirming care. Offer the option to have catastrophic insurance only for things like cancer, and pay out of pocket for routine checkups and prescription refills.

You say you do not advocate socialized medicine. Fine. But when you say medical care should be free, I'm not sure what you have in mind.

Because if we do what I suggest, and stop having government subsidize insurance for everyone for everything, that tax money would be spent on better hospitals in low-income communities, which would bring down those horrible early death, infant mortality, and other stats. We could also spend those war-monger dollars on government medical schools with which to staff those hospitals. For every college graduate accepted at medical school, dozens who are very nearly as smart and capable are rejected, and end up in dental or veteranary school. Use those minds for people, not cats.

 

[Dr.Know]

im a doctor myself and we pretty much have free health care. Emergency rooms are not allowed to turn away people. We had to see street people seeking dope repeatedly as they laughed at us.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Of course, the United States healthcare system should be given some credit. We have wonderful nurses, doctors, healthcare workers. Of course, we have a better healthcare system than much of the world. But again, just look at the fax America is the wealthiest and strongest country in the world… yet we do not have the best healthcare system. Yet we spend more money than any other country on our healthcare. So we should be number one when it comes to quality of healthcare, but we are not.

That statement is incorrect. Perhaps you should reconsider your argument.

Who has the "best" healthcare system? We do. The world comes here for medical care. Cost is irrelevant if the care is not available in your country.

My primary care doctor was American-born. Of the specialists I have seen, about 70% were foreign born and educated in our medical schools. What does that tell you?