America then, and now.

[Harpy Eagle]

And he was one of the best presidents we ever had.

I love it when you drunk post like this

 

[kyzr]

Hopefully you're mistaking weather for climate.
Yeah, the right wing loons here want a professional wrestling match instead of presidential debates (in fact the GOP has said that it won't allow their candidate to take part in debates organized by the Commission of Presidential Debates). Ten-fifteen years ago, the TEA party was all the rage where they didn't want any new taxes and wanted to cut spending. That went bye-bye real quick. Before that they were the "family values" party....today....they celebrate Trump paying a porn star for sex.
Once Trump is gone, what is interesting is whether they will go back to what they were or delve deeper into the darkness.
Just now, one of the Trump supporters wrote that he wanted to drop NAPALM on the current caravan headed to our southern border. Doesn't exactly resonate with the "shining city on a hill" folks does it?

Right wing loons? Got any examples that aren't fringe? Didn't think so.
The Trump's "America First" policy is a winner, and it is here to stay, so get used to it.
The democrats' "America Last", "Open Borders", "Everything and Everyone is Racist", "Parents are Domestic Terrorists", and the "War on Energy" causing "Runaway Inflation" policies are the worst.

How about looking at the Xiden admin's record of catastrophes and disasters:
Everything Xiden, aka “poopy pants” touches turns to shit.
The Brits hold him in CONTEMPT for abandoning AFG
The French pulled their ambassador for abandoning AFG
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.
Xiden sold us out by approving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline giving Putin cash to modernize his military and invade Ukraine, and his “war on energy” keeps fuel costs high. That's why Xiden is "Putin's Whore".
Hope he enjoys the $3,500,000 the Moscow Mayor's wife sent Hunter
Hope he enjoys the $1,500,000,000 that China gave Hunter to "invest"
Open borders is a catastrophe. Trump had it SOLVED. Now its infected migrants & fentanyl sent all over
Runaway inflation would get worse if the dems pass their "BBB" bill. That will be Solyndra on steroids, not to mention the $200,000,000 for Nancy’s park in San Francisco.
Xiden is ruining the US energy sector with his stupid EOs, he wants Russia to pump more oil?? WTF?
Xiden is so dumb he can't even do fake press conferences to answer "ice cream" questions.
Xiden is a gaffe machine, his brain is defective, and he has the nuclear football, WTF???
Xiden surrendered AFG leaving Americans, $billions of equipment, and interpreters to be slaughtered
Xiden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.
China just passed the US out with their new hypersonic missile.
Stupid Joe wants to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 for breaking US immigration LAWS??????
After promising we would have more than enough Covid testing kits, Joe LIED and FAILED.
Xiden killed Israel’s EastMed gas pipeline to sell gas to the EU, Putin’s whore strikes again.
Xiden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, this is a disaster for many
Xiden is letting RUSSIA negotiate the new IRAN agreement???? WTF!!!!!!
I could go on and on, but you see Trump was at least 1,000,000x better as president than stupid Joe

 

[bripat9643]

It's funny because you're talking a lot about "reading" and Presidents that used to read.

Donald Trump didn't even read his daily briefings, and lost attention after about 60 seconds of being talked to. He needed picture books to retain his focus.

That's Trump hater propaganda.

 

[bripat9643]

He will go down as bottom 3. James Buchanan let states secede on his watch and allowed the Civil War, so he is the worst ever. But Trump is #2 or #3 worst.

How would he have stopped states from seceding, by invading them? The Civil War stated on Lincoln's watch, moron.

 

[Missourian]

So you are telling me you would vote for someone like Teddy Roosevelt

Toxically masculine, hunter of animals with cute faces, slaughterer of brown people?

I think you'd have a lot harder time selling Theodore Roosevelt to the current iteration of the Soy Boy Pussy Democrat Party than the Republicans.

 

[candycorn]

Right wing loons? Got any examples that aren't fringe? Didn't think so.
The Trump's "America First" policy is a winner, and it is here to stay, so get used to it.
The democrats' "America Last", "Open Borders", "Everything and Everyone is Racist", "Parents are Domestic Terrorists", and the "War on Energy" causing "Runaway Inflation" policies are the worst.

How about looking at the Xiden admin's record of catastrophes and disasters:
Everything Xiden, aka “poopy pants” touches turns to shit.
The Brits hold him in CONTEMPT for abandoning AFG
The French pulled their ambassador for abandoning AFG
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.
Xiden sold us out by approving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline giving Putin cash to modernize his military and invade Ukraine, and his “war on energy” keeps fuel costs high. That's why Xiden is "Putin's Whore".
Hope he enjoys the $3,500,000 the Moscow Mayor's wife sent Hunter
Hope he enjoys the $1,500,000,000 that China gave Hunter to "invest"
Open borders is a catastrophe. Trump had it SOLVED. Now its infected migrants & fentanyl sent all over
Runaway inflation would get worse if the dems pass their "BBB" bill. That will be Solyndra on steroids, not to mention the $200,000,000 for Nancy’s park in San Francisco.
Xiden is ruining the US energy sector with his stupid EOs, he wants Russia to pump more oil?? WTF?
Xiden is so dumb he can't even do fake press conferences to answer "ice cream" questions.
Xiden is a gaffe machine, his brain is defective, and he has the nuclear football, WTF???
Xiden surrendered AFG leaving Americans, $billions of equipment, and interpreters to be slaughtered
Xiden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.
China just passed the US out with their new hypersonic missile.
Stupid Joe wants to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 for breaking US immigration LAWS??????
After promising we would have more than enough Covid testing kits, Joe LIED and FAILED.
Xiden killed Israel’s EastMed gas pipeline to sell gas to the EU, Putin’s whore strikes again.
Xiden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, this is a disaster for many
Xiden is letting RUSSIA negotiate the new IRAN agreement???? WTF!!!!!!
I could go on and on, but you see Trump was at least 1,000,000x better as president than stupid Joe

I love it when you drunk post like this

 

[BrokeLoser]

I was thinking about our current nation. And imagining how we would react to people of previous generations.

First. I don’t think any previous President could get elected today. By the standards of our current discourse. They are too smart. Too educated. Too liberal.

Teddy Roosevelt read books. A lot of books. We would snort with derision at such a man today. The idea that he would read a book a day is ludicrous. Now.

We respected intelligence and we respected education. Now. Imagine if Igor Sikorsky came forward with an idea for a revolutionary new machine. We would snort and denounce him, and his investors. We would insult and belittle him.

Some would even demand he get deported. Or locked up. He was an immigrant.

Most of the scientists who worked on the Atomic Bomb were Jewish. Well we couldn’t allow that today. They would be a part of some nefarious secret plan to keep Jews in power over all of us. Or something.

JFK read a lot of books. Reagan read books.

Carter was a Nuclear Engineer in the Navy. That means he had a lot of brain power.

Bush 41 was a pilot. That means he was smart enough to do math.

What happened that we changed so dramatically? Why do we denounce those with intelligence? We used to celebrate them. We used to heed their words. And we used to respect those who were educated and continued to read, consider, and learn.

We’re they always right? No. But we knew men were mortal. And we knew that we were human and made mistakes.

What does the future hold if we refuse to listen to those with the knowledge we need to make good decisions?

It is the ignorant as fuck American electorate that you should worry about…supposedly 81 million of the dumbmotherfuckers voted for more wetbacks, more Covid deaths, chicks with dicks education for 6 year olds, $6 fuel, higher taxes and global chaos all because mean tweets hurt their fragile feelings.
Mexicrats have America’s filth voting on emotion only…scary times.

 

[SavannahMann]

Although, he was said to have a speech impediment. Apparently he was an effective presenter and could persuasively communicate his political platform and policies to the audience. ..

You understand he would have sent the Army in to kick the crap out of Russia don’t you?

Roosevelt was furious with Wilson for refusing to go to war. That was the First World War.

 

[Sunni Man]

You understand he would have sent the Army in to kick the crap out of Russia don’t you?

Thanks for your opinion, which may or may not be valid. ...

 

[SavannahMann]

Thanks for your opinion, which may or may not be valid. ...

Roosevelt was so enthusiastic about the First World War he tried to recreate the famed Rough Riders.

Roosevelt's World War I volunteers - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Sunni Man]

Roosevelt was so enthusiastic about the First World War he tried to recreate the famed Rough Riders.

Thanks for the history lesson.
Although, I already knew that piece of trivia info.

 

[SavannahMann]

Thanks for the history lesson.
Although, I already knew that piece of trivia info.

Excellent. Then how would you categorize Roosevelts letters to Senator Lodge regarding Wilson’s refusal to get involved?

 

[Sunni Man]

Excellent. Then how would you categorize Roosevelts letters to Senator Lodge regarding Wilson’s refusal to get involved?

Sorry, but I'm not interested in pursuing this conversation any further.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I was thinking about our current nation. And imagining how we would react to people of previous generations.

First. I don’t think any previous President could get elected today. By the standards of our current discourse. They are too smart. Too educated. Too liberal.

Teddy Roosevelt read books. A lot of books. We would snort with derision at such a man today. The idea that he would read a book a day is ludicrous. Now.

We respected intelligence and we respected education. Now. Imagine if Igor Sikorsky came forward with an idea for a revolutionary new machine. We would snort and denounce him, and his investors. We would insult and belittle him.

Some would even demand he get deported. Or locked up. He was an immigrant.

Most of the scientists who worked on the Atomic Bomb were Jewish. Well we couldn’t allow that today. They would be a part of some nefarious secret plan to keep Jews in power over all of us. Or something.

JFK read a lot of books. Reagan read books.

Carter was a Nuclear Engineer in the Navy. That means he had a lot of brain power.

Bush 41 was a pilot. That means he was smart enough to do math.

What happened that we changed so dramatically? Why do we denounce those with intelligence? We used to celebrate them. We used to heed their words. And we used to respect those who were educated and continued to read, consider, and learn.

We’re they always right? No. But we knew men were mortal. And we knew that we were human and made mistakes.

What does the future hold if we refuse to listen to those with the knowledge we need to make good decisions?

Shockingly reading books was the entertainment of the day before the internet. That’s why everyone read books and we had public libraries. Today the most popular read in a library is the PC hooked to the internet.

So what’s your point?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Toxically masculine, hunter of animals with cute faces, slaughterer of brown people?

I think you'd have a lot harder time selling Theodore Roosevelt to the current iteration of the Soy Boy Pussy Democrat Party than the Republicans.

Remember when they tried to get photo ops of obie shooting a shotgun? What a fucking clown show. They tried to sell him as manly, LMAO! Before that they tried to sell him as athletic. As he threw about 20 fucking bricks at the basketball court. Then there was the video of him working out with half pound weights.
All of which was to ensure the public Michelle wasn’t fucking him in the ass.
Democrats have no use for or are any good at being manly. It’s a problem for them.

 

[SavannahMann]

Sorry, but I'm not interested in pursuing this conversation any further.

So you see your argument defeated and you run away. I can only assume you are a Russian Soldier. When the going gets tough, they slaughter some civilians and run away.

 

[Colin norris]

So is my brother in law.
He wears velcro shoes.

Oh good. I have a pair of blue suede ones

 

[kyzr]

I love it when you drunk post like this

Good comeback! Nice to know you have no clue how to debate FACTS.
Now give your mom her computer back.

 

[Sunni Man]

So you see your argument defeated and you run away. I can only assume you are a Russian Soldier.

Son, the subject you want to discuss isn't of interest to me.
^^^^ And has nothing to do with the thread title.
If you want, start your own thread about Roosevelt and I might join the discussion. ...

 

[SavannahMann]

Son, the subject you want to discuss isn't of interest to me.
^^^^ And has nothing to do with the thread title.
If you want, start your own thread about Roosevelt and I might join the discussion. ...

We began discussing how the former Presidents were unable to get elected today. As well as our reaction, as a society, to intelligence then and now
I gave examples of the intelligence and education, continuing education through reading, and you indicated you would vote for or support Roosevelt.

I pointed out that Roosevelt would have sent the Army to fight Russia, a major subject of your posts. Again. Still discussing the past Presidents.

I’d say it was generally speaking on topic.