America: Love it of Leave it!!

There you go injecting race again, even when the post has absolutely nothing to do with race. Translation: You have nothing worth saying.
It has everything to do with race. This country was created based on race. Laws were made based on race. All your blubbering about American values, woke, and things of that nature is about race. You don't fool anyone black with this "American values" mess.

You start out in 1954 by saying, “******, ******, ******.” By 1968 you can’t say “******”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “******, ******.”

Lee Atwater

This is what those like you do, then try saying that just because you didn't mention a race, that race is not the issue. So I will bring up race whenever I want, because it's easy to dismiss race when you are the racist. The fact is that it is you who brings nothing of value to this forum. You are the one creating a thread saying that you want slaves, so you can just STFU.
 
You are no man, with your contrived leftist notions. You are pure cuck.
I guarantee I'm more man than you. Right-wing men are the cucks. You guys are the ones whining about America being feminized. I speak fact cuck boy, truth you can't handle.
 
You don't want to see it. What is wokeness? Caitlyn Jenner is a trans Republican. Donald Trump sexualized little girls in beauty pageants and bragged about walking into dressing rooms of those little girls to sneak a peek. This nation's "moral fabric" includes slavery, Jim Crow, attempted genocide of Indigenous people, the oppression of women, the exclusion of Asians, and I can continue going on. Your party promotes the ideology of racism, sexism, misogyny, xenophobia, bigotry, and basic human cruelty.

Yours is the party of lies, liars and gaslighting.
your party did a pretty big lie themselves didnt they chump?...
 

Here is a radical notion in today's radicalized America: If you do not pledge your allegiance to the American republic, then you ought not participate in the same. I am not talking about saying the Pledge of Allegiance. I am talking about walking the walk. Actions are more important than words. If you cannot do this, then you cannot be a citizen. Here is a partial list of things that indicate you have chosen to smite America; i.e., things that clearly demonstrate you do not support the republic:

1. Declaring yourself a socialist, communist, democratic socialist, etc ... None of these Marxist-based ideologies are consistent with our constitution. Yes, there is a First Amendment that prevents the government from loading you into a massive catapult and firing you out into the Atlantic Ocean. However, the First Amendment probably does not prevent other actions from being taken (limiting your rights based on you being a national security threat; public ostracizing; a total private sector freeze-out, etc...).

2. Opposing ICE enforcing federal immigration law. The clear implication of this is anarchy. You may not like that we have immigration laws (like the rest of the world does), or that they are imperative to sovereignty, but your redress is to lobby lawmakers, NOT interfere with legitimate law-enforcement activity. This is borderline sedition.

3. Promoting and adhering to ideologies that tend to degrade the moral fabric of the nation. This is wokeness, trans, pedo shit (e.g., sexualizing children), etc...

4. Declaring allegiance to our enemies. Clearly, what I have in mind are the people protesting and supporting Hamas. These people and freedom are strangers. Moreover, Islamists want to destroy America. There is nothing good for America to have people doing this within our borders. In fact, it is harmful. You may protest our government's foreign policy all you like. But when you take sides against America, like these foreign protest movements (funded by foreign actors), that is it. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES AFFORDED BY OUR CONSTITUTION WHEN YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY PREACHING SHIT THAT LENDS ITSELF TO DESTROYING SAID DOCUMENT.

Engage in this thought experiment. When the Founders were debating the freedoms and liberties to be guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, what do you think their response would be to the question, "What if a certain kind if speech is so insidious that it tends to lead people to wanting to overthrow/destroy the republic? Is THAT speech guaranteed by the First Amendment?" The years of jurisprudence that followed interpreted the First Amendment rather broadly, holding that it protected the act of burning the American flag and the expression of just about every sort of degenerate idea out there. However, I do not think that is what the Founders intended. If they has such question posed to them, they would, I think, have said the following:

"Implicit in a nation-state's charter is the unstated premise that a country always seeks to act in its best interest and, therefore, it has not only a right, but a duty, to ensure the perpetuation of its existence."

Honestly, could the underlying assumption of a sovereign nation-state ever be ANYTHING but this? NO!

Sure, you can let some weirdos talk about this and protest that, and whatever. But we have progressed beyond this now. Certain people are actively engages in all manner of ideological driven b.s. that is aimed at undermining the republic. Funding is flowing in from foreign actors, and domestic actors. No patriotic American argues for socialism. That is ipso facto contra America. No patriotic America opposes the enforcement of valid law, for such is anarchy. No patriotic American tries to interfere with the enforcement of law. No Patriotic American advocates for open borders.

This is pretty basic stuff, and it is being ignored because people have other things on their minds. The public education system has ignored civics, and now is affirmatively pimping destructive ideology. Trump is right to rid our nation of the U.S. Dept. of Education, and it is a centralized agency that has concentrated power. The Founders would not have approved of having such an agency either. They did not allow for it in the Constitution, nor were they fans of concentrated power. They new that power needed to be checks and dispersed.

The principle is simple: If you are not aligned with the U.S. constitutional republic as sovereign nation-state, then you ought to have no right to participate in our republic as a citizen. You can visit, but you cannot stay, vote, or run for office.

El Capitan Creeper, 2025.
All Republics Go Bananas

We're in trouble because we are a republic. That anti-Populist political structure gets more decadent with each decade. Praising that term makes me suspicious you won't let us take the law back into our own hands and re-build the wreck that the toxic self-appointed ruling class's Constitution put us in.
 
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A rather apt rant in where one's allegiance lies Capt.......~S~
 
You and your racist brother love to bring up slavery.
Constantly.
Repeatedly.

Here's a little date for you: we're coming up on the 160th anniversary of the 13th Amendment that ended slavery.
Nobody is defending slavery. And yet you continue to bring it up constantly.
Is 160 years not long enough for you?

You and your ******* anti-white, anti-Christian shit get really old, pal.
Another white man who wants to downplay slavery. Since you're the history grad, would you like to discuss the 100 years after slavery, where whites implemented another system to make certain blacks could not advance?

Or are you as stupid as the OP who believes we had it better during Jim Crow?

The current president and nearly all of Congress were born and grew up during Jim Crow, and they benefited from that system. They and all from that generation and all the successors have benefited from the government policies created during that time that actually created the white American middle class, but trying to tell everyone how government is useless, or how they never were given anything.

Anti-racism is not anti white. Anti racist is not anti-Christian. I believe Marc is Christian. So am I. My father was a Baptist minister. If you support Trump and the CURRENT Republican party, if you are a member of the American right wing, you are not a Christian. Whites like you love bragging about building this country, but you don't want to face the truth coming from the descendants of the people whites used to build it about how it was really done. Your fragility is the shit that gets really old.
 
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Another white man who wants to downplay slavery. Since you're the history grad, would you like to discuss the 100 years after slavery, where whites implemented another system to make certain blacks could not advance?

Or are you as stupid as the OP who believes we had it better during Jim Crow?

The current president and nearly all of Congress were born and grew up during Jim Crow, and they benefited from that system. They and all from that generation and all the successors have benefited from the government policies created during that time that actually created the white American middle class, but trying to tell everyone how government is useless, or how they never were given anything.

Anti-racism is not anti white. Anti racist is not anti-Christian. I believe Marc is Christian. So Am I. My father was a Baptist minister. If you support Trump and the CURRENT Republican party, if you are a member of the American right wing, you are not a Christian. Whites like you love bragging about building this country, but you don't want to face the truth coming from the descendants of the people whites used to build it about how it was really done. Your fragility is the shit that gets really old.
Don't you ******* lecture me on whether or not I'm a Christian, you racist POS.
You live to hate.
I live to do the right thing.
You don't.
 
Not really. Because if your allegiance is with Trump or the current American right, you are anti-American.
If you're a Democrat, you're a Marxist and you hate America, which very clearly is displayed every day here. Pathetic racist.
 
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