America: Love it of Leave it!!

this op happens when you know you have, and believe in, bad ideas.
 
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I'm not the crazy one here, son. You claim to have a degree in history; therefore, you should know these things.
You're the guy who keeps bringing up slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery slavery when it's been gone for 160 years.
So I think you need to get your priorities in order and maybe learn how to prioritize things.
 
You don't want to see it. What is wokeness? Caitlyn Jenner is a trans Republican. Donald Trump sexualized little girls in beauty pageants and bragged about walking into dressing rooms of those little girls to sneak a peek. This nation's "moral fabric" includes slavery, Jim Crow, attempted genocide of Indigenous people, the oppression of women, the exclusion of Asians, and I can continue going on. Your party promotes the ideology of racism, sexism, misogyny, xenophobia, bigotry, and basic human cruelty.

Yours is the party of lies, liars and gaslighting.
Little girls in beauty pageants? Oh you mean adult girls?
As for Caitlin Jenner, I'm glad you brought that up because it's further proof that the GOP is willing to accept people whereas the Democrats are not.
 
This nation has a "moral fabric"? I grew up in the 60s watching our Vietnam adventure and gave up on that moral fabric nonsense. Then we blew up Iraq in a search for WMDs that we KNEW didn`t exist.
The "moral fabric" that had a country chuck-full of self-professed Christians claiming and believing that slavery was good, once it was done to others, called them in-human, and now have their evil ancestors talking about a "lost cause" and "The South will rise again!"

That's the "moral fabric" this scubag OP is referring to.
 
The "moral fabric" that had a country chuck-full of self-professed Christians claiming and believing that slavery was good, once it was done to others, called them in-human, and now have their evil ancestors talking about a "lost cause" and "The South will rise again!"

That's the "moral fabric" this scubag OP is referring to.
You and your racist brother love to bring up slavery.
Constantly.
Repeatedly.

Here's a little date for you: we're coming up on the 160th anniversary of the 13th Amendment that ended slavery.
Nobody is defending slavery. And yet you continue to bring it up constantly.
Is 160 years not long enough for you?

You and your ******* anti-white, anti-Christian shit get really old, pal.
 
Our Constitution doesn`t hold us to any economic or political policy. Communism, Marxism, etc. are legal. "our enemies"? I have none.
Your #3 had be rolling on the floor with laughter. Thanks:laughing0301:
The Constitution does promote freedom. And Communism, Marxism and Socialism can deny that and does for some reason. The younger generations here are going to have some tough decisions. We may end up with the Chinese model. Which is a communist government and a form of capitalism making products. And employees will work much harder in that environment than many do now.
 
The Constitution does promote freedom. And Communism, Marxism and Socialism can deny that and does for some reason. The younger generations here are going to have some tough decisions. We may end up with the Chinese model. Which is a communist government and a form of capitalism making products. And employees will work much harder in that environment than many do now.
I'm glad I'll be dead and gone if the youth of this country, brainwashed by Marxists for years, throw away the greatest country in the history of the world.
 
Wrong answer son. I fight so that America lives up to what it promises, which has not een done for blacks. You seem to think that your white man's experience is the only one and that if we don't see things the white mans way, then we hate America. That fascist, and you need to go move to a nation that practices fascism.
There you go injecting race again, even when the post has absolutely nothing to do with race. Translation: You have nothing worth saying.
 

Here is a radical notion in today's radicalized America: If you do not pledge your allegiance to the American republic, then you ought not participate in the same. I am not talking about saying the Pledge of Allegiance. I am talking about walking the walk. Actions are more important than words. If you cannot do this, then you cannot be a citizen. Here is a partial list of things that indicate you have chosen to smite America; i.e., things that clearly demonstrate you do not support the republic:

1. Declaring yourself a socialist, communist, democratic socialist, etc ... None of these Marxist-based ideologies are consistent with our constitution. Yes, there is a First Amendment that prevents the government from loading you into a massive catapult and firing you out into the Atlantic Ocean. However, the First Amendment probably does not prevent other actions from being taken (limiting your rights based on you being a national security threat; public ostracizing; a total private sector freeze-out, etc...).

2. Opposing ICE enforcing federal immigration law. The clear implication of this is anarchy. You may not like that we have immigration laws (like the rest of the world does), or that they are imperative to sovereignty, but your redress is to lobby lawmakers, NOT interfere with legitimate law-enforcement activity. This is borderline sedition.

3. Promoting and adhering to ideologies that tend to degrade the moral fabric of the nation. This is wokeness, trans, pedo shit (e.g., sexualizing children), etc...

4. Declaring allegiance to our enemies. Clearly, what I have in mind are the people protesting and supporting Hamas. These people and freedom are strangers. Moreover, Islamists want to destroy America. There is nothing good for America to have people doing this within our borders. In fact, it is harmful. You may protest our government's foreign policy all you like. But when you take sides against America, like these foreign protest movements (funded by foreign actors), that is it. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES AFFORDED BY OUR CONSTITUTION WHEN YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY PREACHING SHIT THAT LENDS ITSELF TO DESTROYING SAID DOCUMENT.

Engage in this thought experiment. When the Founders were debating the freedoms and liberties to be guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, what do you think their response would be to the question, "What if a certain kind if speech is so insidious that it tends to lead people to wanting to overthrow/destroy the republic? Is THAT speech guaranteed by the First Amendment?" The years of jurisprudence that followed interpreted the First Amendment rather broadly, holding that it protected the act of burning the American flag and the expression of just about every sort of degenerate idea out there. However, I do not think that is what the Founders intended. If they has such question posed to them, they would, I think, have said the following:

"Implicit in a nation-state's charter is the unstated premise that a country always seeks to act in its best interest and, therefore, it has not only a right, but a duty, to ensure the perpetuation of its existence."

Honestly, could the underlying assumption of a sovereign nation-state ever be ANYTHING but this? NO!

Sure, you can let some weirdos talk about this and protest that, and whatever. But we have progressed beyond this now. Certain people are actively engages in all manner of ideological driven b.s. that is aimed at undermining the republic. Funding is flowing in from foreign actors, and domestic actors. No patriotic American argues for socialism. That is ipso facto contra America. No patriotic America opposes the enforcement of valid law, for such is anarchy. No patriotic American tries to interfere with the enforcement of law. No Patriotic American advocates for open borders.

This is pretty basic stuff, and it is being ignored because people have other things on their minds. The public education system has ignored civics, and now is affirmatively pimping destructive ideology. Trump is right to rid our nation of the U.S. Dept. of Education, and it is a centralized agency that has concentrated power. The Founders would not have approved of having such an agency either. They did not allow for it in the Constitution, nor were they fans of concentrated power. They new that power needed to be checks and dispersed.

The principle is simple: If you are not aligned with the U.S. constitutional republic as sovereign nation-state, then you ought to have no right to participate in our republic as a citizen. You can visit, but you cannot stay, vote, or run for office.

El Capitan Creeper, 2025.

This is the Republican play book.

"This is what we want America to be, if you don't like it, you should leave".

Ridiculous. Why should "American values" be "Republican values"?

That's not freedom, is it?
 
New York can adopt a socialistic approach under the Constitution. That is the greatness of the document. It allows for local control and tailoring of ideologies. Look at the Free State Project.

So, I am afraid your premise here is incorrect.
They can try, if they are foolish enough. But they will **** up with issues involving preemption (federal immigration law enforcement), equal protection (Mamdani’s taxing white people more), etc…

Don’t waste my time, dummy!
 
This is the Republican play book.

"This is what we want America to be, if you don't like it, you should leave".

Ridiculous. Why should "American values" be "Republican values"?

That's not freedom, is it?
Nothing in my post makes such an assertion. You are just reading shit into it.
 
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The "moral fabric" that had a country chuck-full of self-professed Christians claiming and believing that slavery was good, once it was done to others, called them in-human, and now have their evil ancestors talking about a "lost cause" and "The South will rise again!"

That's the "moral fabric" this scubag OP is referring to.
Nobody seriously believes slavery is a “good” think, you sloppy punk *****.
 
I'm glad I'll be dead and gone if the youth of this country, brainwashed by Marxists for years, throw away the greatest country in the history of the world.
You need to speed up your exit schedule.
 
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