America: Love it of Leave it!!

[HikerGuy83]

You're such a ******* idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

Except the deep state has been stealing elections for quite a while it seems.

Deep State?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Slavery is still legal here. On December 6, 1865, the thirteenth Amendment was ratified, officially ending slavery in the United States, except as punishment for a crime.

Some people have an excuse that says we cannot hold Americans who lived in the past to today’s standards. I could understand if this standard was applied to all past events, ideas, beliefs, and philosophies, but it seems that
this excuse is only used when racial injustices are discussed. For example, we have the political ideology called conservatism, whose members will proudly quote statements from the founders about the role of the American government today. None of the founders are here now. They are people of the past. The right credits them for ideas they had. They can assess today’s standards to their words. The OP of this thread is an example.

We get told how we need to return to those standards consistently. Yet if you say, “No, I can’t do that because they owned slaves, which means they did not truly believe the words they spoke,” suddenly you can’t hold people from the past responsible, or you cannot place today’s standards on their beliefs. The record shows how the people of that time assessed “today’s” standards on themselves. Almost every one of them spoke out against slavery. Ben Franklin and Ben Rush formed an abolition organization. John Quincy Adams was called the “hell hound for Abolition.” Don’t believe me, here are their words.

“Why keep alive the question of slavery? It is admitted by all to be a great evil.”
-Charles Carroll, Signer of the Declaration
“I am glad to hear that the disposition against keeping negroes grows more general in North America. Several pieces have been lately printed here against the practice, and I hope in time it will be taken into consideration and suppressed by the legislature.”
-Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration, Signer of the Constitution, President of the Pennsylvania Abolition Society
“That men should pray and fight for their own freedom and yet keep others in slavery is certainly acting a very inconsistent, as well as unjust and perhaps impious.”
-John Jay, President of Continental Congress, Original Chief Justice U. S. Supreme Court
“The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unremitting despotism on the one part, and degrading submissions on the other. . . . And with what execration [curse] should the statesman be loaded, who permitting one half the citizens thus to trample on the rights of the other. . . . And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
-Thomas Jefferson

I can keep going. Apparently, you didn't study this part of history when you got that degree.

Now you come to me with the same dumb white right wing garbage. You are the racist, that's why you holler so loud about me and Marc. Non racist whites understand what was done, know how it exists now and work to change it, not claim to be "conservative" as an excuse to conserve the racist origins of this country. You don't want to discuss Jim Crow because it destroys your false narrative and renders your white grievance as the whiny bs that it actually is.

I don't hate whites, but that's another tactic white racists use as part of their gaslighting. What you fail to understand, because the arrogance of white supremacy doesn't allow you to, is that we grow up and live having to adjust our lives in order to maneuver around whites who are racists in order to achieve. We must learn and observe the behavioral patterns of every white person we meet to ensure that we do not end up giving our trust to a racist. Because that trust can end our lives if we are in the wrong place. So we learn to recognize racist behavior in whites who exhibit that behavior. After living 64 years thus far in a nation full of racism, the behavior pattern is very clear, especially when a person is trained in sociology, which is what I graduated from college in. So all your whining that "he hate the white man", just shows that you want to play victim, while you also want to pay the superior white man. In short, you have a psychological problem.

We know the playbook, junior, you are nothing but a right-wing racist.

and you are a ******* phony and a coward.....who does not do what you claimed you do to "racist" here in this forum.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

No you don't, because you're always choosing to do the wrong thing.

we get it marc your shit dont stink....

 

[Harry Dresden]

LOL! Those who preach personal responsibility to others generally aren't willing to take personal responsibility to fix the problems they're part of.

like you?....

 

[westwall]

Deep State?

Yeah, the deep state. Catch up, the rest of the world has passed you by.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, the deep state. Catch up, the rest of the world has passed you by.

Now tell us about the New World Order

 

[westwall]

Now tell us about the New World Order

You mean globalism? It's all over the news.

 

[rightwinger]

You mean globalism? It's all over the news.

International cooperation is not globalism

 

[westwall]

International cooperation is not globalism

Sure it is. "Cooperation" equals socialism. The goal of globalists everywhere.

They talk about their goals in pretty much every meeting of the Council on Foreign Relations.

They even publish them in their magazine Foreign Relations. I actually read it.

You must not have the vocabulary to understand what they are saying.

 

[Hafar1014]

International cooperation is not globalism

It is when its forced on us

 

[Lockback]

You're such a ******* idiot.

There's no worse fool than an old fool.

You're a ******* liar.
So slavery is still allowed?
Please point it out, liar.

 

[Lockback]

Slavery is still legal here. On December 6, 1865, the thirteenth Amendment was ratified, officially ending slavery in the United States, except as punishment for a crime.

Some people have an excuse that says we cannot hold Americans who lived in the past to today’s standards. I could understand if this standard was applied to all past events, ideas, beliefs, and philosophies, but it seems that
this excuse is only used when racial injustices are discussed. For example, we have the political ideology called conservatism, whose members will proudly quote statements from the founders about the role of the American government today. None of the founders are here now. They are people of the past. The right credits them for ideas they had. They can assess today’s standards to their words. The OP of this thread is an example.

We get told how we need to return to those standards consistently. Yet if you say, “No, I can’t do that because they owned slaves, which means they did not truly believe the words they spoke,” suddenly you can’t hold people from the past responsible, or you cannot place today’s standards on their beliefs. The record shows how the people of that time assessed “today’s” standards on themselves. Almost every one of them spoke out against slavery. Ben Franklin and Ben Rush formed an abolition organization. John Quincy Adams was called the “hell hound for Abolition.” Don’t believe me, here are their words.

“Why keep alive the question of slavery? It is admitted by all to be a great evil.”
-Charles Carroll, Signer of the Declaration
“I am glad to hear that the disposition against keeping negroes grows more general in North America. Several pieces have been lately printed here against the practice, and I hope in time it will be taken into consideration and suppressed by the legislature.”
-Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration, Signer of the Constitution, President of the Pennsylvania Abolition Society
“That men should pray and fight for their own freedom and yet keep others in slavery is certainly acting a very inconsistent, as well as unjust and perhaps impious.”
-John Jay, President of Continental Congress, Original Chief Justice U. S. Supreme Court
“The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unremitting despotism on the one part, and degrading submissions on the other. . . . And with what execration [curse] should the statesman be loaded, who permitting one half the citizens thus to trample on the rights of the other. . . . And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
-Thomas Jefferson

I can keep going. Apparently, you didn't study this part of history when you got that degree.

Now you come to me with the same dumb white right wing garbage. You are the racist, that's why you holler so loud about me and Marc. Non racist whites understand what was done, know how it exists now and work to change it, not claim to be "conservative" as an excuse to conserve the racist origins of this country. You don't want to discuss Jim Crow because it destroys your false narrative and renders your white grievance as the whiny bs that it actually is.

I don't hate whites, but that's another tactic white racists use as part of their gaslighting. What you fail to understand, because the arrogance of white supremacy doesn't allow you to, is that we grow up and live having to adjust our lives in order to maneuver around whites who are racists in order to achieve. We must learn and observe the behavioral patterns of every white person we meet to ensure that we do not end up giving our trust to a racist. Because that trust can end our lives if we are in the wrong place. So we learn to recognize racist behavior in whites who exhibit that behavior. After living 64 years thus far in a nation full of racism, the behavior pattern is very clear, especially when a person is trained in sociology, which is what I graduated from college in. So all your whining that "he hate the white man", just shows that you want to play victim, while you also want to pay the superior white man. In short, you have a psychological problem.

We know the playbook, junior, you are nothing but a right-wing racist.

**** off, liar.
And don't EVER bother to respond to me again because I absolutely will not read your bullshit, you lying racist. Obviously, others have learned to ignore you and I shall do the same because I would rather burn in Hell than be accused of being a racist ... by a racist.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I am a conservative. So, save the name calling.

All I am saying is that is the beauty of the Constitution.

Immigration law is a federal perview (providing for the common defense). Mayors of sancutary cities should be escorted to prison. If one of their protectorates kills someone, the mayor should join them on the gallows.

Equal protetion is fuzzy, but if New York doesn't have an equivalent they are stupid. Taxing white people more is simply discrimination and a violation of about 100 different points of basic federal policy.

However, if Michigan wants state health care they can pass it (as long as they fund it and don't look to anyone else). If Florida would rather build better roads....that is up to them.

Your spellcheck is on the fritz!

 

[IM2]

**** off, liar.
And don't EVER bother to respond to me again because I absolutely will not read your bullshit, you lying racist. Obviously, others have learned to ignore you and I shall do the same because I would rather burn in Hell than be accused of being a racist ... by a racist.

So explain your rationale for opposing equal opportunity policies such as Affirmative Action or DEI. I'm not the racist here, and you can't post a racist comment by me or dispute one word I have said. So run along loser.

 

[Lockback]

So explain your rationale for opposing equal opportunity policies such as Affirmative Action or DEI. I'm not the racist here, and you can't post a racist comment by me or dispute one word I have said. So run along loser.

 

[westwall]

So explain your rationale for opposing equal opportunity policies such as Affirmative Action or DEI. I'm not the racist here, and you can't post a racist comment by me or dispute one word I have said. So run along loser.

Because they AREN'T equal.

Moron!

 

[MarcATL]

You're a ******* liar.
So slavery is still allowed?
Please point it out, liar.

 

[IM2]

Yep, you can't explain your opposition because it would reveal your racism.

 

[Lockback]

Yep, you can't explain your opposition because it would reveal your racism.

I'm sorry ... I don't respond to racist assholes.