Porter Rockwell
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#1140 Porter Rockwell reply #1134 to #1132 “Reference to God in the Declaration of Independence is DEIST not Protestant Christian.”
“In neither the eighteenth century nor today would most people consider a person with those views a “Christian.” Thomas Jefferson Encyclopedia
#1134IF your dumb ass were a student of history, Jefferson made NO statement about his views as they were private. But, what he signed his name to left no doubt... unless you want to call him a liar.
#188If you had read this thread, I proved, unequivocally, that Jefferson was a Christian. I am not going to argue what has been established as fact..
#1140 FOR THE RECORD: All readers now have a choice. Who is to be believed on the issue of whether Thomas Jefferson was a Christian or not?
(A) Porter Rockwell
(B) The finest Jefferson historians at MONTICELLO Thomas Jefferson Encyclopedia | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
“JEFFERSON AND CHRISTIANITY
While Jefferson was a firm theist, the God in which he believed was not the traditional Christian divinity. Jefferson rejected the notion of the Trinity and Jesus’ divinity. He rejected Biblical miracles, the resurrection, the atonement, and original sin (believing that God could not fault or condemn all humanity for the sins of others, a gross injustice).10 In neither the eighteenth century nor today would most people consider a person with those views a “Christian.”
Jefferson's Religious Beliefs | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Jefferson's Religious Beliefs
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Thomas Jefferson’s religious beliefs have long been a subject of public discussion,
#1149 it’s exactly as I have said:
“Jefferson rejected the notion of the Trinity and Jesus’ divinity. He rejected Biblical miracles, the resurrection, the atonement, and original sin (believing that God could not fault or condemn all humanity for the sins of others, a gross injustice).10. Thomas Jefferson Encyclopedia
#1140. For the record, I choose (B). How about you Correll?
NOTFOOLEDBYW,
The only people left here are you, correll and myself. WHO are you trying to make believe your B.S.? Us or yourself?
When Thomas Jefferson penned the words to the Declaration of Independence, he obviously believed in God from a Christian perspective. The term Divine Providence shows he did believe in the Divinity OR he was just a huckster.
But, wait, out of his own pocket Jefferson was willing to buy anyone in America a Bible - and not his own cut up version.
You think you know more about the historians who have written about Jefferson's views that were forever changing and evolving. You've tried to build your case around one man. You are foolish and you've been responded to every way a poster can respond. You are in need of mental health orofessionals. You are conversing with two people and nobody else gives a rat's rear. You aren't changing our minds because you know you're wrong and we know you're wrong. AND you realize you know we KNOW you're wrong.
You are embarrassing yourself and compounding your own problems. All you've argued is Thomas Jefferson - a man you clearly you do not understand AND HE IS JUST ONE FOUNDER - NOT ALL OF THEM!!!
You need to take fifty dollars and go to the dog pound.Buy yourself a dog. Name him Life. That way you can say you have one.
Jefferson was notorious for going off on a tangent and saying things he would later regret; his views were all over the map in the course of his life. For you to deny it is to deny reality. I leave you with a link to one example:
Jefferson's Letter to Philip Mazzei | The Papers of Thomas Jefferson