Amazing, Six Members of the Clown Car did WHAT?

[Seawytch]

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

What religion teaches not serving black people?
Another red herring.

Let me quote Rabbi to Rabbi:

"They claim it violates their religious beliefs. Have you examined their souls or something?"

And the racists were just as sure of THEIR bible versus as the anti gay bigots are of theirs.

“Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red and he placed them on separate continents. . . . The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”
Judge Leon M. Bazile

 

[Seawytch]

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

You mean just like I supported Kim Davis..

Oh wait - I don't. Try again with your straw man.

That is what this bill, that six GOP contenders for President said they would sign into law, would do. It would allow Kim Davis to be a taxpayer paid bigot as well as override state and local laws that protect gays on the same level as religion is protected everywhere.

That is what you claim it does.

Prove me wrong. (you can't)

Prohibits the federal government from taking discriminatory action against a person on the basis that such person believes or acts in accordance with a religious belief or moral conviction that: (1) marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, or (2) sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.

 

[rightwinger]

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

 

[Seawytch]

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

There was also resistance rooted in religion to laws barring discrimination in public accommodations and education. For example, a barbeque franchise resisted compliance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, refusing to serve African-Americans on the ground that the Act “contravene[d] the will of God.”29 The court rejected the defense, stating that, while the franchise owner “has a constitutional right to espouse the religious beliefs of his own choosing . . . he does not have the absolute right to exercise and practice such beliefs in utter disregard of the clear constitutional rights of other citizens.” Most famously, Bob Jones University and its companion plaintiff, Goldsboro Christian Schools, invoked religion to resist integration in education.31 Goldsboro regarded “[c]ultural or biological mixing of the races . . . as a violation of God’s command,”32 and sponsors of Bob Jones University maintained that “the Bible forbids interracial dating and marriage.”33 In the Supreme Court, the schools argued that the loss of their tax-exempt status because of their discriminatory policies violated their Free Exercise rights. The Supreme Court rejected the claim, reasoning that “the interests asserted by petitioners cannot be accommodated with [the] compelling governmental interest” in “eradicating racial discrimination in education—discrimination that prevailed, with official approval, for the first 165 years of this Nation’s constitutional history.”

Thus, although the nation’s efforts to achieve integration met with resistance based on religious beliefs, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed without an accommodation for those opposed to integration on religious grounds;35 laws banning interracial marriage fell without measures to accommodate those of faith opposed to interracial relationships;36 and the courts rejected claims rooted in faith for accommodations to laws barring discrimination in public accommodations and education.

Religious refusals to Public Accommodation Laws​

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

 

[Seawytch]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

No, it's not a choice...religion is.

 

[The Rabbi]

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

What religion teaches not serving black people?
Another red herring.

Let me quote Rabbi to Rabbi:

"They claim it violates their religious beliefs. Have you examined their souls or something?"

And the racists were just as sure of THEIR bible versus as the anti gay bigots are of theirs.

“Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red and he placed them on separate continents. . . . The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”
Judge Leon M. Bazile

Anecdote is not evidence.
Next.

 

[The Rabbi]

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

You never provided references, single or multiple, for any claims you've ever made, Nutwinger. Just the same ole shit.

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

No, it's not a choice...religion is.

Of course it's a choice. People choose what they do with their body parts.

 

[rightwinger]

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

You never provided references, single or multiple, for any claims you've ever made, Nutwinger. Just the same ole shit.

Rabbi fails again...

Does he ever grow tired of humiliating himself on a thread?

 

[The Rabbi]

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

You never provided references, single or multiple, for any claims you've ever made, Nutwinger. Just the same ole shit.

Rabbi fails again...

Does he ever grow tired of humiliating himself on a thread?

Self declared victories are the most hollow. Especially coming from you, who gets his ass handed to him on this forum every day.

 

[Wry Catcher]

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

You never provided references, single or multiple, for any claims you've ever made, Nutwinger. Just the same ole shit.

Rabbi fails again...

Does he ever grow tired of humiliating himself on a thread?

He lacks introspection and has a desperate need for attention.

 

[The Rabbi]

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

You never provided references, single or multiple, for any claims you've ever made, Nutwinger. Just the same ole shit.

Rabbi fails again...

Does he ever grow tired of humiliating himself on a thread?

He lack introspection and is desperate for attention. Both represent his only two good qualities.

You lack English language skills. But you make it up for it in your "oral skills". At least that what ex cons have told me.

 

[rightwinger]

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

You never provided references, single or multiple, for any claims you've ever made, Nutwinger. Just the same ole shit.

Rabbi fails again...

Does he ever grow tired of humiliating himself on a thread?

Self declared victories are the most hollow. Especially coming from you, who gets his ass handed to him on this forum every day.

Rabbi ....get your shine box

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

No, it's not a choice...religion is.

I said yesterday that many factors are involved. Not a choice at all? That's probably true sometimes but not always. What many omit is that human sexuality is complicated and a manifestation of your true self. That's why some people are dictators in the bedroom, or totally passive, whatever.

I've found every homosexual I've talked to over the years to be very rebellious and counter culture in nature. There may be good reasons they got that way but to say no one can determine how they deal with their environment isn't credible.

So in that sense, yes it's a pseudo religion at a minimum. There's the belief no one can be who they want to be and then the devotion to proselytizing to win over adherents to the cause.

 

[The Rabbi]

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

Rabbi says I am wrong?

This is usually the point where I provide multiple references to prove I am right and Rabbi just claims they are all biased

Not playing anymore Rabbi

You never provided references, single or multiple, for any claims you've ever made, Nutwinger. Just the same ole shit.

Rabbi fails again...

Does he ever grow tired of humiliating himself on a thread?

Self declared victories are the most hollow. Especially coming from you, who gets his ass handed to him on this forum every day.

Rabbi ....get your shine box

Nutwinger, get a clue.
The Constitution protects free exercise of religion. It does not say if your religion conflicts with views of those around you you have to change it. That isnt protection.

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

No, it's not a choice...religion is.

I said yesterday that many factors are involved. Not a choice at all? That's probably true sometimes but not always. What many omit is that human sexuality is complicated and a manifestation of your true self. That's why some people are dictators in the bedroom, or totally passive, whatever.

I've found every homosexual I've talked to over the years to be very rebellious and counter culture in nature. There may be good reasons they got that way but to say no one can determine how they deal with their environment isn't credible.

So in that sense, yes it's a pseudo religion at a minimum. There's the belief no one can be who they want to be and then the devotion to proselytizing to win over adherents to the cause.

It's a choice. People choose to act out their perverse natures or not.

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

No, it's not a choice...religion is.

I said yesterday that many factors are involved. Not a choice at all? That's probably true sometimes but not always. What many omit is that human sexuality is complicated and a manifestation of your true self. That's why some people are dictators in the bedroom, or totally passive, whatever.

I've found every homosexual I've talked to over the years to be very rebellious and counter culture in nature. There may be good reasons they got that way but to say no one can determine how they deal with their environment isn't credible.

So in that sense, yes it's a pseudo religion at a minimum. There's the belief no one can be who they want to be and then the devotion to proselytizing to win over adherents to the cause.

It's a choice. People choose to act out their perverse natures or not.

That's true but I was talking about the desire.

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

No, it's not a choice...religion is.

I said yesterday that many factors are involved. Not a choice at all? That's probably true sometimes but not always. What many omit is that human sexuality is complicated and a manifestation of your true self. That's why some people are dictators in the bedroom, or totally passive, whatever.

I've found every homosexual I've talked to over the years to be very rebellious and counter culture in nature. There may be good reasons they got that way but to say no one can determine how they deal with their environment isn't credible.

So in that sense, yes it's a pseudo religion at a minimum. There's the belief no one can be who they want to be and then the devotion to proselytizing to win over adherents to the cause.

It's a choice. People choose to act out their perverse natures or not.

That's true but I was talking about the desire.

People have desires for all sorts of things. But few act them out entirely.

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm beginning to believe homosexuality actually IS a religion.

No, it's not a choice...religion is.

I said yesterday that many factors are involved. Not a choice at all? That's probably true sometimes but not always. What many omit is that human sexuality is complicated and a manifestation of your true self. That's why some people are dictators in the bedroom, or totally passive, whatever.

I've found every homosexual I've talked to over the years to be very rebellious and counter culture in nature. There may be good reasons they got that way but to say no one can determine how they deal with their environment isn't credible.

So in that sense, yes it's a pseudo religion at a minimum. There's the belief no one can be who they want to be and then the devotion to proselytizing to win over adherents to the cause.

It's a choice. People choose to act out their perverse natures or not.

That's true but I was talking about the desire.

People have desires for all sorts of things. But few act them out entirely.

That's where the rebellious nature comes in.