Amazing, Six Members of the Clown Car did WHAT?

[Mustang]

"Six of the Republican candidates vying for the presidency have signed a pledge promising to support legislation during their first 100 days in the White House that would use the guise of “religious liberty” to give individuals and businesses the right to openly discriminate against LGBT people.

"Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Rick Santorum, and Mike Huckabee vowed to push for the passage of the First Amendment Defense Act (FADA), legislation that would prohibit the federal government from stopping discrimination by people or businesses that believe “marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman” or that “sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.”

That's odd considering the compelling evidence that Jesus was quite likely gay.

 

[FA_Q2]

Here is the House bill for the First Amendment Defense Act: H.R.2802 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): First Amendment Defense Act

Sponsored by Raul Labrador (R-ID-1). He's a Mormon, by the way.

152 co-sponsors. 151 of them have an R after their name.

No, really. 152 out of 153 names are Republicans.

How many of those co-sponsors do you think have been divorced and remarried, in direct violation of Matthew 19:9?

Hmmmm...

How many of them got divorced because of their spouse's cheating?
Which is not a violation of Matthew 19:9

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

You mean just like I supported Kim Davis..

Oh wait - I don't. Try again with your straw man.

 

[Seawytch]

Here is the House bill for the First Amendment Defense Act: H.R.2802 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): First Amendment Defense Act

Sponsored by Raul Labrador (R-ID-1). He's a Mormon, by the way.

152 co-sponsors. 151 of them have an R after their name.

No, really. 152 out of 153 names are Republicans.

How many of those co-sponsors do you think have been divorced and remarried, in direct violation of Matthew 19:9?

Hmmmm...

How many of them got divorced because of their spouse's cheating?
Which is not a violation of Matthew 19:9

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

You mean just like I supported Kim Davis..

Oh wait - I don't. Try again with your straw man.

That is what this bill, that six GOP contenders for President said they would sign into law, would do. It would allow Kim Davis to be a taxpayer paid bigot as well as override state and local laws that protect gays on the same level as religion is protected everywhere.

 

[The Rabbi]

Wow who appointed you Archbishop of Canterbury?

Who appointed the Oregon hillbilly bakers, hypocrite?

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

.

So you habe no answer?

I not only answered, I kicked all of you hypocrites in the nuts.

You wimped out and refused to answer the questions. You obfuscated and moved the goalposts. IOW, a typical thread for you.

Now THAT is funny.

We're in a topic about six candidates for President signing up to support a law which would allow people like the Oregon hillbilly bakers to discriminate against gays, and you want to make it about Muslims! YOU are the one tossing our red herrings, rube! BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

You crap all over the thread and then accuse others of doing it.
You're a ripe turd in a mouldy punch bowl.

 

[The Rabbi]

Biblical law? You don't know the first thing about it! Go play with your dildos, you have nothing of value to offer here.

Matthew 19:9.

Haha, another biblical scholar! Matthew is in the NT, not Torah!

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

 

[g5000]

Matthew 19:9.

Haha, another biblical scholar! Matthew is in the NT, not Torah!

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

They are full of shit. This isn't about religion, as I have proven. It's just plain ordinary everyday ignorant bigotry that wants the protection of the government.

 

[Seawytch]

Matthew 19:9.

Haha, another biblical scholar! Matthew is in the NT, not Torah!

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

 

[The Rabbi]

Haha, another biblical scholar! Matthew is in the NT, not Torah!

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

They are full of shit. This isn't about religion, as I have proven. It's just plain ordinary everyday ignorant bigotry that wants the protection of the government.

They claim it violates their religious beliefs. Have you examined their souls or something?

 

[g5000]

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

They are full of shit. This isn't about religion, as I have proven. It's just plain ordinary everyday ignorant bigotry that wants the protection of the government.

They claim it violates their religious beliefs. Have you examined their souls or something?

They are full of shit, period.

 

[The Rabbi]

Haha, another biblical scholar! Matthew is in the NT, not Torah!

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

They are full of shit. This isn't about religion, as I have proven. It's just plain ordinary everyday ignorant bigotry that wants the protection of the government.

They claim it violates their religious beliefs. Have you examined their souls or something?

They are full of shit, period.

Thank you for your considered, well reasoned, and articulated response. It is exactly what I expect of you when pushed. Because you are a clown masquerading as a buffoon.

 

[Iceweasel]

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

You keep mindlessly chanting the same thing. If it's included in PA law we know it's the law. Jesus Christ. I don't agree with any anti-discrimination law and I'm not religious. And no, you don't suddenly decide to comply with the law when you open a business. If the state is going to run the business then they (you) can pay the taxes!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They are they lamely pandering and The FADA is unlikely going to become law. It was introduced six months ago and nothing has come of it.

But that won't stop them for continually trying to push it down our throats.

No doubt. This pledge is simply throwing a little red meat to the religious right.

Quite frankly, I would love to see state and federal public accommodations laws scrapped almost entirely.

You would like businesses to be permitted to deny service to you based on the fact that you are gay?

I would like businesses to be permitted to deny service to any person and for whatever reason. If people find those business practices objectionable than they will take their duckets elsewhere. If their business fails then they have no one to blame but themselves. I wouldn't to give my money to that business anyway.

Naïve nonsense.

Businesses that discriminate would continue to flourish if allowed to do so, the notion that businesses which do discriminate would be 'forced out of business' because of their discriminatory policies is sophomoric, devoid of evidence in support, and completely without merit.

The Commerce Clause authorizes government to regulate markets, regardless their size, and to maintain the integrity of local markets and all other interrelated markets (Wickard v. Filburn)

Public accommodations laws are necessary, proper and Constitutional regulatory measures enacted by governments which have determined that businesses that refuse to accommodate patrons based on race, religion, or sexual orientation are disruptive to the local market, and prohibit such discrimination accordingly.

Businesses are subject to all manner of regulatory policies, policies they must comply with as a condition of doing business, such as complying with wage requirements, safe working conditions, and public health and safety – public accommodations laws are no different.

 

[Seawytch]

Do you think the Oregon hillbillies are biblical scholars?

Hypocrite.

Does Matthew 19:9 say if you remarry you are committing adultery, or not?

It's very straightforward, willfully blind hypocrite.

This is JESUS HIMSELF speaking: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

 

[Seawytch]

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

You keep mindlessly chanting the same thing. If it's included in PA law we know it's the law. Jesus Christ. I don't agree with any anti-discrimination law and I'm not religious. And no, you don't suddenly decide to comply with the law when you open a business. If the state is going to run the business then they (you) can pay the taxes!

You don't get your business license because you want one. You get one when you agree to follow the laws that govern doing business. Don't like the law, in your own words, move.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

So instead of pushing a bill to improve infrastructure or to fund science...Well, they push crap like this? republicans are sick.

Yes, that is true....I mean it.

And democrats push the same trash and ignore the basics too.

What was your point.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm not a Christian, dumbfuck. When people change the subject they know they're wrong.

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

What religion teaches not serving black people?
Another red herring.

 

[The Rabbi]

I am keeping things on topic.

The topic is about people like the bigoted Oregon hillbillies being allowed to discriminate against gays and using their "Christianity" as cover. I am blowing that cover to pieces.

You are proving you an incompetent charlatan.
Why does their alleged right to service supercede the owner's religious rights,never mind the right to free association?

When you agree to do business, you agree to comply with the law of the locality in which you conduct business. Racists had to serve blacks...even if they were religiously opposed.

No racist was religiously opposed to serving blacks. Anotehr red herring.
People have religious rights which trump whatever the law is. It is a reasonable accomodation issue. Why should the state be involved in saying who you can and cannot do business with? It is back to the Nazi era and the anti-Jewish laws.

So a racist could deny service to a black person if they say it violates their religion?

Racists loved to quote the bible as evidence that race mixing was not in Gods plan

No actually that is wrong. Like everything else you post.

 

[FA_Q2]

How many of them got divorced because of their spouse's cheating?
Which is not a violation of Matthew 19:9

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

You mean just like I supported Kim Davis..

Oh wait - I don't. Try again with your straw man.

That is what this bill, that six GOP contenders for President said they would sign into law, would do. It would allow Kim Davis to be a taxpayer paid bigot as well as override state and local laws that protect gays on the same level as religion is protected everywhere.

That is what you claim it does.