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Disclaimer: The following post is just my opinion. So it's OK if we disagree, I'm not stating this as an objective truth that everyone has to agree with. 
Is an "alpha male" and a real man the same thing?
This question came to mind while I was reading another thread where people were describing Trump as an “alpha male.” The premise of that thread seemed to be that women love alpha males…and Trump is an alpha male, so that’s why women love Trump. I was going to reply on that thread, but then I figured this is actually an interesting topic that deserves a thread of its own.
I don’t want this thread to be only about Trump, so the only thing I’ll say about him is this...whether he's an alpha male or not, it always surprises me that people think of Trump as attractive. That got me thinking, what makes a man attractive? Is it simply being an alpha male, or is there something more than that? Then I thought, maybe I don't have the right definition of alpha male in mind.
So I looked up the definition, and here’s what I found:
Ok, so if an alpha male is simply a man who is dominant, assertive, and has a high social or professional status....that's cool, but to me those qualities alone don’t necessarily make someone attractive. Or a real man, necessarily.
Of course, I can’t speak for all women; I can only speak for myself.
In my view, what good is it to be dominant, confident and assertive...or to have power or social status.…if one doesn’t also have truly admirable qualities like honesty, integrity, honor, and wisdom?
I would say that a real man, and a true leader, is someone who has strength of character, integrity, wisdom, courage, and other qualities that people can genuinely admire and respect....and confidence too. But not the kind of confidence that is pompous or arrogant. I think real confidence is paired with humility. And that may not be a quality that people tend to associate with an "alpha male"...but I would say that a real man or a true leader has humility. I mean, look at Jesus. From a Christian perspective, He is the highest power in the world, the King above all kings, yet he was humble and "lowly." (Matthew 11:29)
So I’m curious to know how other people see this.
Is an “alpha male” the same thing as a real man or a true leader? Or are they two completely different things?
And if you're a woman....is someone being an alpha male all it takes for you, or is there something more that makes a man attractive?
Or is this whole idea of "alpha male" a silly and unimportant concept? lol
Is an "alpha male" and a real man the same thing?
This question came to mind while I was reading another thread where people were describing Trump as an “alpha male.” The premise of that thread seemed to be that women love alpha males…and Trump is an alpha male, so that’s why women love Trump. I was going to reply on that thread, but then I figured this is actually an interesting topic that deserves a thread of its own.
I don’t want this thread to be only about Trump, so the only thing I’ll say about him is this...whether he's an alpha male or not, it always surprises me that people think of Trump as attractive. That got me thinking, what makes a man attractive? Is it simply being an alpha male, or is there something more than that? Then I thought, maybe I don't have the right definition of alpha male in mind.
So I looked up the definition, and here’s what I found:
“In a human context, an ‘alpha male’ is typically defined as a man who is dominant, assertive, and occupies a high social or professional status.”
Ok, so if an alpha male is simply a man who is dominant, assertive, and has a high social or professional status....that's cool, but to me those qualities alone don’t necessarily make someone attractive. Or a real man, necessarily.
Of course, I can’t speak for all women; I can only speak for myself.
In my view, what good is it to be dominant, confident and assertive...or to have power or social status.…if one doesn’t also have truly admirable qualities like honesty, integrity, honor, and wisdom?
I would say that a real man, and a true leader, is someone who has strength of character, integrity, wisdom, courage, and other qualities that people can genuinely admire and respect....and confidence too. But not the kind of confidence that is pompous or arrogant. I think real confidence is paired with humility. And that may not be a quality that people tend to associate with an "alpha male"...but I would say that a real man or a true leader has humility. I mean, look at Jesus. From a Christian perspective, He is the highest power in the world, the King above all kings, yet he was humble and "lowly." (Matthew 11:29)
So I’m curious to know how other people see this.
Is an “alpha male” the same thing as a real man or a true leader? Or are they two completely different things?
And if you're a woman....is someone being an alpha male all it takes for you, or is there something more that makes a man attractive?
Or is this whole idea of "alpha male" a silly and unimportant concept? lol
So, while the idea of "alpha males" may be true in the animal world, I don't agree that it's the same with humans. Yes, it's true that women want security, and if they want a family, they look for a man who is capable of being a provider and protecter... But as I said, there's so much more that makes someone attractive, and a true leader. I mean, wouldn't you agree that a man can be a good provider, but not a good partner? What about a rich man who gives his wife everything she wants materially, but is off boinking the secretary? Obviously there's more to it than just how animals operate in the wild.
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