A Thought on Judaism...no "pie in the sky"

[rupol2000]

That's because you falsely define "semitic dna" (if that is even a thing),
with the main haplotype found Arabia. That's not an honest observation.

Are you suggesting an"Arab-purity" dna test for people living in the Middle East?

Arabs are guaranteed Semites. Historical Arabs live in Arabia, therefore, it is logical to assume that the Semitic male mutation is an Arab haplogroup. Even if it is not accurate, it reflects the reality.

 

[rylah]

Really? How are you going to reform Islam?

As they say in French - "shwayah...shwayah..."

It's not like you really expect me to tell you, right?
But I'll tell one thing - Muslims are too insecure about Islam.
And you know exactly what I mean, there's no culture of asking questions.

Islam's rigidity is self defeating,
Too much energy is wasted on expanse,
and almost none invested in introspection.

 

[rylah]

Arabs are guaranteed Semites. Historical Arabs live in Arabia, therefore, it is logical to assume that the Semitic male mutation is an Arab haplogroup. Even if it is not accurate, it reflects the reality.

It reflects a supremacist ideology,
and a very real, that I can agree.

But most Middle Easterners,
are also actually not Arabians.

 

[rupol2000]

Assuming J is not a common Semitic marker, then there must be another marker indicating a common origin. But no one knows anything about such a marker.

There is a possibility that there is an identity along the female line (which would be just logical given the law of halachic inheritance), but there is no such information either.

 

[rylah]

Assuming J is not a common Semitic marker, then there must be another marker indicating a common origin. But no one knows anything about such a marker.

There is a possibility that there is an identity along the female line (which would be just logical given the law of halachic inheritance), but there is no such information either.

There're the J, L and the T,
you only look for the Arabian J
because that's your sumremacist ideology.

Most middle easterners can spot an Arabian, exactly because most are not.

 

[rupol2000]

Personally, I am skeptical about the idea of the Semitic origin of the Jews. This is contradicted not only by genetics, but also by the culture, which among the Ashkenazim is close to Balto-Germanic (including the Yiddish language, which is a Germanic dialect.) Their territory of residence is also Baltic, most of them lived on the territory of Belarus, in the Neman region. Absolutely everything speaks of their Balto-Germanic origin.

 

[surada]

As they say in French - "shwayah...shwayah..."

It's not like you really expect me to tell you, right?
But I'll tell one thing - Muslims are too insecure about Islam.
And you know exactly what I mean, there's no culture of asking questions.

Islam's rigidity is self defeating,
Too much energy is wasted on expanse,
and almost none invested in introspection.

Hahahaha.. Now you are assuming. Do you live in Israel?

 

[rupol2000]

There's the J, L and the T,
you only look for the Arabian J

That is, in your opinion, Arabs are not Semites, but Semites are people inhabiting approximately the area of modern Pakistan, including Pashtuns, right?

 

[rylah]

Personally, I am skeptical about the idea of the Semitic origin of the Jews. This is contradicted not only by genetics, but also by the culture, which among the Ashkenazim is close to Balto-Germanic (including the Yiddish language, which is a Germanic dialect.) Their territory of residence is also Baltic, most of them lived on the territory of Belarus, in the Neman region. Absolutely everything speaks of their Balto-Germanic origin.

Hyper moralizing your Pan-Arabist supremacy,
not something new Jews have to deal with.

But that's also the prophecy - today's nations
will return to large 'families of earth',
and Israel will lead as the nation.

 

[irosie91]

Arabs are guaranteed Semites. Historical Arabs live in Arabia, therefore, it is logical to assume that the Semitic male mutation is an Arab haplogroup. Even if it is not accurate, it reflects the reality.

you do not have the VAGUEST idea what you are talking about---
did you pass 10th grade biology? As to "arabs" lived in arabia---
in fact, ARAB is defined as a person who speaks arabic as his native
language or SELF IDENTIFIES as an "arab" based on family legacy

 

[irosie91]

That is, in your opinion, Arabs are not Semites, but Semites are people inhabiting approximately the area of modern Pakistan, including Pashtuns, right?

no-----pashtuns are not arabs or semites

 

[rupol2000]

Hyper moralizing your Pan-Arabist supremacy,
not something new Jews have to deal with.

But that's also the prophecy - today's nations
will unite into large 'families of earth',
Israel will be the only specific nation.

I'm just trying to be objective, I have nothing to do with Arabs.
What do you call a nation? A nation is a cultural comunity, not by origin.

 

[rylah]

no-----pashtuns are not arabs or semites

Are WE ready for the Pashtuns?
And I don't mean the Islamist lunacy usually brought up here.

 

[rupol2000]

you do not have the VAGUEST idea what you are talking about---
did you pass 10th grade biology? As to "arabs" lived in arabia---
in fact, ARAB is defined as a person who speaks arabic as his native
language or SELF IDENTIFIES as an "arab" based on family legacy

But the population of Arabia is quite homogeneous, there are more than 50% with the J marker

 

[rylah]

I'm just trying to be objective, I have nothing to do with Arabs.
What do you call a nation? A nation is a cultural comunity, not by origin.

One doesn't cancel the other.
A nation is...ADAM...if you can fathom the broad idea.

70 nations for 70 children of Ya'akov Avinu A"H.
The main portion of Israel are 12 tribes,
the rest, the best of every nation.

United into one unique civilization.
Actually quiet simple to understand.

 

[rupol2000]

One doesn't cancel the other.
A nation is...ADAM...if you can fathom the broad idea.

70 nations for 70 children of Ya'akov Avinu A"H.
The main portion of Israel are 12 tribes,
the rest, the best of every nation.

United into one unique civilization.
Actually quiet simple to understand.

No, I don't know any idea of Adam. According to biblical mythology, all people descend from Adam.

 

[rupol2000]

And it is not clear how this can be understood as some kind of "idea", only dark people believe in it, because anthropology has long proved that there was no separate creation of man, and people descended from primates.

 

[rylah]

No, I don't know any idea of Adam. According to biblical mythology, all people descend from Adam.

The question was 'what's a nation?'.
Read again my previous two post, and ponder on that universal idea.

 

[irosie91]

But the population of Arabia is quite homogeneous, there are more than 50% with the J marker

so? do you know the sequence of "the J" marker?

 

[rupol2000]

The question was 'what's a nation?'.
Read again my previous two post, and ponder on that universal idea.

The concept of a nation has a generally recognized meaning. It is a cultural community within the state. In fact, this is the legacy of imperial politics. And there is nothing mystical or "deep" to think about.