A solution to the growing number of unemployable Americans

[GuyOnInternet]

Some are entitled by poor parenting. They need employers like us to challenge them. The schools dont help as they teach soci

There's gotta be a simpler way.

I think something like what I am proposing is the best solution. We go to third world countries and outwork them. We endure even tougher work conditions than they can. We compete on even terms with an even cost of living and even minimum wage. Many of us may wind up becoming citizens of the foreign country instead. That works out for everyone.

 

[Woodznutz]

As long as unemployment remains below 5 percent, don't worry about it. There is always a fraction of the population that will never go to work. Leave them alone to feed on the scraps and sleep on the streets.

 

[Independent thinker]

The government is getting too involved. No more minimum wage for Americans working in other countries. If you don't like making 5 dollars an hour in another country, go back to the USA. You can live very well for 20,000 a year in some countries.

I don't know what you're talking about. The only Americans working in other countries are making a decent wage. They don't go to other countries to make $5 per hour.

 

[GuyOnInternet]

Americans who want to work are working. There are way too many Americans living with their parents for free because they won't work unless they are being paid what they consider to be a living wage. So, they stiff their parents and don't work at all.

There are a growing number of Americans who have no future in America. I am working on trying to become a citizen of the Philippines. I would much rather be a software developer there making 20,000 a year than a software developer in America making 6 figures a year. In fact, I was happier working in a warehouse in the Philippines for 9 dollars a day than making 6 figures in America. I had a couple software companies interested, except I needed visas and shit. I am working on immigrating to another country.

 

[Woodznutz]

I don't know what you're talking about. The only Americans working in other countries are making a decent wage. They don't go to other countries to make $5 per hour.

True. It is American companies with foreign projects that need skilled workers. There are enough locals to do the unskilled work.

 

[Independent thinker]

As long as unemployment remains below 5 percent, don't worry about it. There is always a fraction of the population that will never go to work. Leave them alone to feed on the scraps and sleep on the streets.

Yeah. For the most part, those 5% really don't want to work so it doesn't do the figures justice to say that 5% of people are unemployed because many of them don't really want to work in the first place. The only exceptions would be for those who were earning a decent living and lost their jobs and can't find work at the same rate they had been earning.

 

[Independent thinker]

There are a growing number of Americans who have no future in America. I am working on trying to become a citizen of the Philippines. I would much rather be a software developer there making 20,000 a year than a software developer in America making 6 figures a year. In fact, I was happier working in a warehouse in the Philippines for 9 dollars a day than making 6 figures in America. I had a couple software companies interested, except I needed visas and shit. I am working on immigrating to another country.

There are places in the US you could have found work and had a lower cost of living without having to move to the Philippines. Yes, there are people making 6 figures in big cities in blue states such as New York and California who can't afford to live. Some of them are even homeless or living in tents. But, it doesn't have to be that way if you move to other places in the country. I don't know your story but if you are of Philippine decent, maybe that's just easier for you than moving to Arkansas.

 

[GuyOnInternet]

Its called free markets get the government out as much as possible and let the market define a workers worth based demand and ability you know merit

Yeah. For the most part, those 5% really don't want to work so it doesn't do the figures justice to say that 5% of people are unemployed because many of them don't really want to work in the first place. The only exceptions would be for those who were earning a decent living and lost their jobs and can't find work at the same rate they had been earning.

How do you compete with a person living in another country where the average family income is 200 a month? You move to a country where the average family income is 200 dollars a month. Citizens like us are a commodity. If you have a worker that is not productive in your system, why would you try to make it harder for him to leave? Perhaps the U.S. government could trade white collar workers to other countries for their blue collar workers who are doing jobs where you have to be here.

 

[Meister]

You can solve a lot of problems by trying to solve homelessness. You put people up, give them a place to keep themselves clean, presentable and an address to get a job, people are more likely to be stable.

Other people can get the help they need because they're there and the relevant people can find them.

Open up the mental institutions, that would reduce a significant number of the homelessness.

 

[leftwinger]

There are Americans who want to work. I personally worked for 9 dollars a day unreported in the Philippines and I was happy. I got in the best shape of my life and lived off of the money I made until someone complained. What is wrong with moving to a country with more opportunity?

They come here. Corrupt GOVT groups get funding, take a big cut then shower them with dollars. Most southern border hoppers don't cone to work anymore. They come for free everything. $1T fraud and waste doesn't grow on trees. They want me to fund it? Uh, no way. Not willingly.

 

[progressive hunter]

White collar work is being exported to other countries. Truck drivers and whatnot are being imported from other countries. They work in the opposite direction. Whether or not we should bring in manual laborers is a separate issue altogether. I don't think we should be bringing in illegal aliens to drive trucks and whatnot, except that is a separate issue from what I am talking about. I am talking about letting Americans have an opportunity to seek work elsewhere rather than being a useless burden.

we have more than enough people that want to be truck drivers,,

immigrants are brought in because they work for less money,,
that pushes americans out of jobs,,

 

[GuyOnInternet]

There are places in the US you could have found work and had a lower cost of living without having to move to the Philippines. Yes, there are people making 6 figures in big cities in blue states such as New York and California who can't afford to live. Some of them are even homeless or living in tents. But, it doesn't have to be that way if you move to other places in the country. I don't know your story but if you are of Philippine decent, maybe that's just easier for you than moving to Arkansas.

I am a white man that has spent almost my entire life in America and made a good living. I would like the opportunity to move to another country to work. What is wrong with that? My plan is to get a software developer job overseas and work a warehouse job on the side (like I did in America) and eventually become a citizen of that foreign country.

 

[leftwinger]

Open up the mental institutions, that would reduce a significant number of the homelessness.

I said it since 2000, they have to be captured and housed in desert tent cities until rehabbed. If they screw up there? 5 yr sentence in Folsom. Sounds tough but many choose to drug up and live like that. Salvage those truly on hard luck, thos salvageable.

It's a public health emergency. What happened to the law? No camping on sidewalks, wrapping in the street. Child endangerment.

 

[Meister]

I am a white man that has spent almost my entire life in America and made a good living. I would like the opportunity to move to another country to work. What is wrong with that? My plan is to get a software developer job overseas and work a warehouse job on the side (like I did in America) and eventually become a citizen of that foreign country.

If you're not happy here, by all means, move.

 

[Hafar1014]

Who wants to work in Nigeria? What no volunteers. How about Liberia? Nope

 

[Independent thinker]

How do you compete with a person living in another country where the average family income is 200 a month? You move to a country where the average family income is 200 dollars a month. Citizens like us are a commodity. If you have a worker that is not productive in your system, why would you try to make it harder for him to leave? Perhaps the U.S. government could trade white collar workers to other countries for their blue collar workers who are doing jobs where you have to be here.

No offense, but, whatever your situation is, I don't think you have a full understanding of the reality. There are tons of jobs in the US all over the country which pay a decent living and that area has a cost of living low enough to live in. Are you able to just get a job in a different field or move to a different area in the US instead of moving to the Philippines? I really don't think you are looking at the big picture. Something has happened to you and you don't seem to be able to get over it and move on. Things aren't really as bad as you seem to think they are if you just open your mind to other possibilities.

 

[22lcidw]

I am a white man that has spent almost my entire life in America and made a good living. I would like the opportunity to move to another country to work. What is wrong with that? My plan is to get a software developer job overseas and work a warehouse job on the side (like I did in America) and eventually become a citizen of that foreign country.

In ways that would help that nation arise. The safety social nets though most currently likely lacking.

 

[leftwinger]

Young Black males are a problem group. Those not in sports.

A good percentage are jailed, on probation or parole. No license, no job, no car, no money. Can't pass strict drug testing (99% on gange) to drive trucks. Hard to get a job with 5-40 arrests on your record? They don't want to comply with the white owners. Not worth the effort to get them going?

I expected Trump to take on this huge problem. I know I would. Relocate any good ones from the ghetto to hot job areas and get them working. Even in the fields. No not slavery. You have to try something. For e big tech to open MFG sites and housing like in China but here in East St. Louis or Memphis. Why let them go to VietNam? Are our people not good? Don't answer.

Ask current drivers. It ain't easy. airplanemechanic ?

 

[Independent thinker]

I am a white man that has spent almost my entire life in America and made a good living. I would like the opportunity to move to another country to work. What is wrong with that? My plan is to get a software developer job overseas and work a warehouse job on the side (like I did in America) and eventually become a citizen of that foreign country.

I'm sorry. I think you should do what you want to do. But, you made a thread here which I thought was aimed at many people, not just yourself. Is the reason you want to move to another country based purely on economics or is their another motivation? Like I said, I think you should do what you want to do but I can't help thinking you aren't looking at the big picture and are making a rash decision that you may come to regret.

 

[Woodznutz]

Hafar1014 said:

I think something like what I am proposing is the best solution. We go to third world countries and outwork them. We endure even tougher work conditions than they can. We compete on even terms with an even cost of living and even minimum wage. Many of us may wind up becoming citizens of the foreign country instead. That works out for everyone.

We have enough work that needs to be done here. The biggest impediment to employment of the poor and chronically unemployed is the lack of skill and training. Look at the 'help wanted ads'. In years past there were jobs that people understood and could do. Today it's a mess of high-sounding jobs that few even understand. Yet jobs that don't have the requirement of high education are numerous and go begging.

Even some high paying construction jobs don't require even an apprenticeship. I worked reroofing a large parking garage once, and in one week learned just about everything needed to be a roofer. Sadly, on the job training is a thing of the past. Multi-year apprenticeship are just a way to get cheap labor. Back in the day I 'finished' a three-year meat cutting apprenticeship in 18 months. I was hired as a journeyman meat cutter 'on probation' by a different company. After working for a month I was granted journeyman status and pay by the company as they were satisfied that I was doing journeyman's work.