A solution to the growing number of unemployable Americans

[GuyOnInternet]

how about we just educate americans and tell migrants we dont need them??

Educating Americans only works to an extent. There still remains the difference in cost of living in different countries. Our ancestors came to America for an opportunity to work. That opportunity is shrinking, so we need to go to a place where we have a future and will not be a useless burden. Not hatred of my country, simply being realistic.

 

[GuyOnInternet]

How about punishing homelessness with executions? Or even joblessness.

Or I saw a file where you had a certain number of credits for working, and if you got below x amount of credits you were killed.

(Obviously I'm being right wing here, not actually being a serious human being)

I am talking about a system of voluntary participation.

 

[Mac-7]

Most of the jobs

Educating Americans only works to an extent. There still remains the difference in cost of living in different countries. Our ancestors came to America for an opportunity to work. That opportunity is shrinking, so we need to go to a place where we have a future and will not be a useless burden. Not hatred of my country, simply being realistic.

Companies that do business in America should hire Americans and pay the prevailing wage

 

[GuyOnInternet]

Companies that do business in America should hite Americans and pay the prevailing wage.

I am talking about Americans working in other countries. They are being shut out of a labor market by our government,

 

[Independent thinker]

Proposal for Expatriate Tax and Wage Reform

This initiative proposes a fundamental restructuring of the economic relationship
between the U.S. government, domestic companies, and citizens working abroad. Our
goal is to remove fiscal barriers that hinder competitiveness in a globalized digital
economy.

1. Geographic Localization of Wages

Compensation standards—including minimum and prevailing wages—should be
benchmarked against the specific economic realities of the host nation, not U.S.
domestic floors.

• Market-Based Pay: Aligns labor costs with local living standards to restore
competitiveness.

• Cost Efficiency: Removes the "salary premium" required by U.S.-centric wage
laws, allowing domestic workers to compete directly with foreign contractors.

2. Proposal for Equitable Expatriate Taxation

The current global labor market is defined by an uneven playing field that
systematically disadvantages American workers. When an American company
outsources work to a foreign national living abroad, that individual typically pays taxes
solely to their host country. In stark contrast, an American citizen performing the same
work abroad is currently subjected to the administrative burden and potential financial
impact of reporting to both the U.S. and foreign governments. We propose a legislative
shift from the current system of citizenship-based taxation to a model where U.S.
citizens working abroad are governed solely by the tax code of their new country after
obtaining citizenship there and obtaining Visitation Alien status in America.

• Sole Local Jurisdiction: Eliminates the dual-filing burden and IRS
extraterritorial reach.

• Elimination of U.S. Tax Obligations: Ensures workers contribute only to the
fiscal systems where they reside and consume public services.

3. Visitation Alien Status

To provide long-term stability and integration, we propose the following legal status
frameworks:

• Host Country Integration: Workers shall be granted the option to pursue
citizenship within the country of their employment, fostering deeper economic
and social ties.

• Visitation Alien Status: Upon establishing long-term foreign citizenship, these
individuals would be classified as Visitation Aliens regarding their U.S. tax/legal
status, effectively ending their status as U.S. citizens. They can visit the U.S. at
will, except would not be citizens.

This reform creates a mobile, high-output American workforce unburdened by
fiscal policies ill-suited for the modern digital service sector. It enables people to
be productive rather than a useless burden.

These people don't want to work because they don't want to work. I have a better idea. We round them all up and send them to socialist countries and those countries can take care of them without them having to work. It's a win win for everyone.

 

[leftwinger]

How about punishing homelessness with executions? Or even joblessness.

Or I saw a file where you had a certain number of credits for working, and if you got below x amount of credits you were killed.

(Obviously I'm being right wing here, not actually being a serious human being)

Stupid BoardStain. The Blue city leaders are stealing $100s of billions allocated for the homeless problem you mentally ill baboon. Over decades. Like all D programs. Nothing reaches the victims.

They like it, they want more if it. They dont give a crap if 100 per night freeze to death. As long as they get funding.

 

[Independent thinker]

You can solve a lot of problems by trying to solve homelessness. You put people up, give them a place to keep themselves clean, presentable and an address to get a job, people are more likely to be stable.

Other people can get the help they need because they're there and the relevant people can find them.

We need to put the mentally ill in mental institutions.

 

[Mac-7]

I am talking about Americans working in other countries. They are being shut out of a labor market by our government,

There cant be many of those

Much less than foreign workers working for the US market

 

[progressive hunter]

Educating Americans only works to an extent. There still remains the difference in cost of living in different countries. Our ancestors came to America for an opportunity to work. That opportunity is shrinking, so we need to go to a place where we have a future and will not be a useless burden. Not hatred of my country, simply being realistic.

are you saying americans need to leave the country and go elsewhere to find work??

and if the opportunity for work here is shrinking why would we bring in more migrants??

 

[GuyOnInternet]

These people don't want to work because they don't want to work. I have a better idea. We round them all up and send them to socialist countries and those countries can take care of them without them having to work. It's a win win for everyone.

There are Americans who want to work. I personally worked for 9 dollars a day unreported in the Philippines and I was happy. I got in the best shape of my life and lived off of the money I made until someone complained. What is wrong with moving to a country with more opportunity?

 

[GuyOnInternet]

are you saying americans need to leave the country and go elsewhere to find work??

and if the opportunity for work here is shrinking why would we bring in more migrants??

White collar work is being exported to other countries. Truck drivers and whatnot are being imported from other countries. They work in the opposite direction. Whether or not we should bring in manual laborers is a separate issue altogether. I don't think we should be bringing in illegal aliens to drive trucks and whatnot, except that is a separate issue from what I am talking about. I am talking about letting Americans have an opportunity to seek work elsewhere rather than being a useless burden.

 

[Blaster]

What is wrong with moving to a country with more opportunity?

Singapore is a great place to live.

 

[Independent thinker]

The free market and employers must determine a wage not the government. You earn what the job and your skills are worth. 80% of all employers are small businesses. If you think your underpaid get another job, more skills, work better.

Bingo! You are worth what you get paid. If you think you are worth more than you get a better job making more money. If you can't, then you are already getting paid what you're worth.

I've been in management for decades and have owned my own business for over 20 years. A long time ago I had this worker who I was considering firing due to horrible attendance. She called in sick at least one day per week for a couple of months. One day she came up to me and demanded a raise, saying she wasn't earning enough money. I laughed in her face and finally said, "You can give yourself a raise". She looked at me dumbfounded and then I said, "All you have to do is work all the hours you're supposed to work in the first place and you'd make $200 per month more than what you're making now". She still looked dumbfounded and said, "I never looked at it like that" and walked away.

 

[Blaster]

Singapore: Economy

Singapore Economy

globaledge.msu.edu

 

[GuyOnInternet]

Bingo! You are worth what you get paid. If you think you are worth more than you get a better job making more money. If you can't, then you are already getting paid what you're worth.

I've been in management for decades and have owned my own business for over 20 years. A long time ago I had this worker who I was considering firing due to horrible attendance. She called in sick at least one day per week for a couple of months. One day she came up to me and demanded a raise, saying she wasn't earning enough money. I laughed in her face and finally said, "You can give yourself a raise". She looked at me dumbfounded and then I said, "All you have to do is work all the hours you're supposed to work in the first place and you'd make $200 per month more than what you're making now". She still looked dumbfounded and said, "I never looked at it like that" and walked away.

The government is getting too involved. No more minimum wage for Americans working in other countries. If you don't like making 5 dollars an hour in another country, go back to the USA. You can live very well for 20,000 a year in some countries.

 

[Hafar1014]

Bingo! You are worth what you get paid. If you think you are worth more than you get a better job making more money. If you can't, then you are already getting paid what you're worth.

I've been in management for decades and have owned my own business for over 20 years. A long time ago I had this worker who I was considering firing due to horrible attendance. She called in sick at least one day per week for a couple of months. One day she came up to me and demanded a raise, saying she wasn't earning enough money. I laughed in her face and finally said, "You can give yourself a raise". She looked at me dumbfounded and then I said, "All you have to do is work all the hours you're supposed to work in the first place and you'd make $200 per month more than what you're making now". She still looked dumbfounded and said, "I never looked at it like that" and walked away.

Some are entitled by poor parenting. They need employers like us to challenge them. The schools dont help as they teach socialism

 

[Hafar1014]

It brings its paranoid schizophrenic Jew hatred into as many threads as it can.

Obsession -- it's not just a perfume anymore.

Ridicule them

 

[Woodznutz]

Proposal for Expatriate Tax and Wage Reform

This initiative proposes a fundamental restructuring of the economic relationship
between the U.S. government, domestic companies, and citizens working abroad. Our
goal is to remove fiscal barriers that hinder competitiveness in a globalized digital
economy.

1. Geographic Localization of Wages

Compensation standards—including minimum and prevailing wages—should be
benchmarked against the specific economic realities of the host nation, not U.S.
domestic floors.

• Market-Based Pay: Aligns labor costs with local living standards to restore
competitiveness.

• Cost Efficiency: Removes the "salary premium" required by U.S.-centric wage
laws, allowing domestic workers to compete directly with foreign contractors.

2. Proposal for Equitable Expatriate Taxation

The current global labor market is defined by an uneven playing field that
systematically disadvantages American workers. When an American company
outsources work to a foreign national living abroad, that individual typically pays taxes
solely to their host country. In stark contrast, an American citizen performing the same
work abroad is currently subjected to the administrative burden and potential financial
impact of reporting to both the U.S. and foreign governments. We propose a legislative
shift from the current system of citizenship-based taxation to a model where U.S.
citizens working abroad are governed solely by the tax code of their new country after
obtaining citizenship there and obtaining Visitation Alien status in America.

• Sole Local Jurisdiction: Eliminates the dual-filing burden and IRS
extraterritorial reach.

• Elimination of U.S. Tax Obligations: Ensures workers contribute only to the
fiscal systems where they reside and consume public services.

3. Visitation Alien Status

To provide long-term stability and integration, we propose the following legal status
frameworks:

• Host Country Integration: Workers shall be granted the option to pursue
citizenship within the country of their employment, fostering deeper economic
and social ties.

• Visitation Alien Status: Upon establishing long-term foreign citizenship, these
individuals would be classified as Visitation Aliens regarding their U.S. tax/legal
status, effectively ending their status as U.S. citizens. They can visit the U.S. at
will, except would not be citizens.

This reform creates a mobile, high-output American workforce unburdened by
fiscal policies ill-suited for the modern digital service sector. It enables people to
be productive rather than a useless burden.

There's gotta be a simpler way.

 

[Independent thinker]

There are Americans who want to work. I personally worked for 9 dollars a day unreported in the Philippines and I was happy. I got in the best shape of my life and lived off of the money I made until someone complained. What is wrong with moving to a country with more opportunity?

Americans who want to work are working. There are way too many Americans living with their parents for free because they won't work unless they are being paid what they consider to be a living wage. So, they stiff their parents and don't work at all.

 

[Hafar1014]

There's gotta be a simpler way.

Its called free markets get the government out as much as possible and let the market define a workers worth based demand and ability you know merit