A Situation For You To Ponder That May Occur In The Not Too Distant Future

[OKTexas]

Next month Great Britain will vote to decide if they will remain in the EU. They may very well vote to secede.

So what happens if Britain votes to secede and the EU decides to channel their inner Lincoln and try to force Britain to remain by force of arms. All sides are NATO allies, so who does the US align themselves with?

Your thoughts?

 

[FA_Q2]

Not a chance. The EU is not a similar entity to the US at any point in its history. The individual nations all retained their full sovereignty. If anything, it is far closer to the confederacy than the union.

 

[OKTexas]

Not a chance. The EU is not a similar entity to the US at any point in its history. The individual nations all retained their full sovereignty. If anything, it is far closer to the confederacy than the union.

Right, just like the US States thought they retained their sovereignty as well and only surrendered very limited powers to the Feds, how'd that work out?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Looks like there is procedure to leave

The mechanics of leaving the EU - explaining Article 50 | Open Europe

 

[Rexx Taylor]

u ask this of brain dead democrats, they think u are saying,,,Succeed.

 

[FA_Q2]

Not a chance. The EU is not a similar entity to the US at any point in its history. The individual nations all retained their full sovereignty. If anything, it is far closer to the confederacy than the union.

Right, just like the US States thought they retained their sovereignty as well and only surrendered very limited powers to the Feds, how'd that work out?

Again, it is more like the confederacy than anything remotely like the union. It is not similar at all.

 

[Centinel]

Not a chance. The EU is not a similar entity to the US at any point in its history. The individual nations all retained their full sovereignty. If anything, it is far closer to the confederacy than the union.

Does the constitution indicate that the states who joined the union didn't retain their full sovereignty? If so, please cite the relevant text.

 

[OKTexas]

Looks like there is procedure to leave

The mechanics of leaving the EU - explaining Article 50 | Open Europe

Right, a procedure that could likely drag on for years if not decades, all the while Britain would be bound by EU dictates. I say this because the ones doing the negotiating don't have the final say on their exit.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Does anyone know if "Georgia" {russian georgia} plans to susseed and move the nation to the united states? can they do that?

 

[OKTexas]

Not a chance. The EU is not a similar entity to the US at any point in its history. The individual nations all retained their full sovereignty. If anything, it is far closer to the confederacy than the union.

Right, just like the US States thought they retained their sovereignty as well and only surrendered very limited powers to the Feds, how'd that work out?

Again, it is more like the confederacy than anything remotely like the union. It is not similar at all.

Yet they call themselves a union and the EU is constantly grabbing more and more power, sounds similar to me.

 

[Dale Smith]

The European Union is being ran by the same globalist thieves that run the all the central banks, the BIS, IMF and the Global Bank. Britain was a sovereign country....not a state so it's nothing like what happened during the Civil War. They are not obligated to stay in it at all.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

and dont we all wish that Callyfornia would susseed as well? just go! leave!!! move to mexico!

 

[OKTexas]

The European Union is being ran by the same globalist thieves that run the all the central banks, the BIS, IMF and the Global Bank. Britain was a sovereign country....not a state so it's nothing like what happened during the Civil War. They are not obligated to stay in it at all.

You don't know much about American history do ya. Our States were considered sovereign nations at one time and still should be. The Fed government was created to manage a union of sovereign States, not lord over them like a freaking dictator. Now the EU is going down the same path.

 

[FA_Q2]

Not a chance. The EU is not a similar entity to the US at any point in its history. The individual nations all retained their full sovereignty. If anything, it is far closer to the confederacy than the union.

Does the constitution indicate that the states who joined the union didn't retain their full sovereignty? If so, please cite the relevant text.

It gives the federal government some powers over the states. While I do not adhere to the current idea of what the supremacy clause means now - it is there and does mean that there are powers the federal government retains that are supreme over the state powers in the same area.

AFAIK, the EU has no such concept and any nation is clearly given the option to remove themselves from it. No such clause exists within the constitution.