Discourse can come out of nowhere. History proves that. You made a statement about solving problems!!!!! Progs have started more solving problem programs then Carter has liver pills(never knew what it meant). State, local, federal, regional taxes, fees and fines and then some more have been earmarked for solving problems.I like civil war 2.0 threads. It illustrates better than anything else what a sad frightened fantasy world the right inhabits. In their fantasies they are brave enough to actually peel themselves out of their recliners and go fight for their country against overwhelming odds for no clear personal benefit. It's definitely at odds with their real life habits of taking care of number one and cowering in the face of an uncertain future. If they had the courage to fight a civil war they would not be turning to con men like Trump to solve all their problems for them.