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A Note for "Fallen Away" Catholics

DGS49

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My parish is in the process of consolidation right now, and I just sat through a "state of the union" message from the "Administrator" of my church. Basically, we have four former "parishes" that are relatively close together, and we were ordered to consolidate into one, with each church remaining pretty much as is. Now comes the difficult part. Two of the four churches will be limited to occasional use (funerals, weddings, special stuff), and the two largest will both remain fully functional, consolidated into a single "parish," with one office and one pastor.

There is a fairly accurate census of the four churches; three were recently completed and ours, the largest, has been maintained fairly accurately (we are the newest parish), but will be counted in the next month or so.

Three years ago, about 25-30% of the "parishioners" were attending Mass every week. At the height of Covid paranoia, about eleven percent of the Catholic population was going to church regularly. Now it's up to about 15%, and of course "we" are looking for ways to lure some people back. We anticipate that some of the people who are comfortable at the two churches that are being downgraded will either stop going to church or go someplace else. But if they remain Catholic, we are about the only game in town.

The Cajuna Virus was a dramatic blow to the Church. A lot of people stayed home and a lot of people just disengaged, stopping their regular contributions. Most are slowly coming back...but not all.

The other issue - the Elephant in the Room, so to speak - was the pedophilia scandal in the Church and the perception that Church leadership failed to deal with it appropriately, thus causing the abuse to continue and even expand after the problems were known.

The problem with the pedo scandal is that it is impossible to defend the institution. As soon as one says, "but those guys were an aberration, a small percentage of the total of priests, and they intentionally hid their activities from the hierarchy..." he is branded an enabler, making excuses, or worse. But that is the fact. The pedophile-priests betrayed the institution, intentionally using the mask of the priesthood to facilitate their perversion. Punishing the 95% of priests who remained and remain with the program, and punishing everyone else associated with the Church is...[wait for it]...perverse.

I have no doubt that many people who simply don't want to go to church, or don't want to contribute anything are using the scandal and, now, the Cajuna Virus as an excuse, but it's time to be adult about it. No institution is perfect, but the FAITH remains what it was before the scandal, before the virus, and priests who are in place right now are both courageous and admirable for their perseverence in the face of tremendous pressure and criticism. Who can go to work every day knowing that a large percentage of the population assumes you are a monster?

The Church is NEEDED in American society right now. The forces of evil are ascendant; if you can't see it you are either blind or not paying attention. Even if you don't strictly believe all of the articles of faith that you learned from the Baltimore Catechism, get your ass back to church.

I have spoken.
 

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The problem with the pedo scandal is that it is impossible to defend the institution. As soon as one says, "but those guys were an aberration, a small percentage of the total of priests, and they intentionally hid their activities from the hierarchy..." he is branded an enabler, making excuses, or worse. But that is the fact
It has been proven that church leadership protected the criminals.
 

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Do you not think that having a practice of celibacy contributes to those who are sworn to it, to release their sexual tensions in perverse ways? What is the reasoning behind the practice of celibacy? Is it really biblical that one remain celibate for ones entire life?

1 Corinthians 11:11

11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
 

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My parish is in the process of consolidation right now, and I just sat through a "state of the union" message from the "Administrator" of my church. Basically, we have four former "parishes" that are relatively close together, and we were ordered to consolidate into one, with each church remaining pretty much as is. Now comes the difficult part. Two of the four churches will be limited to occasional use (funerals, weddings, special stuff), and the two largest will both remain fully functional, consolidated into a single "parish," with one office and one pastor.

There is a fairly accurate census of the four churches; three were recently completed and ours, the largest, has been maintained fairly accurately (we are the newest parish), but will be counted in the next month or so.

Three years ago, about 25-30% of the "parishioners" were attending Mass every week. At the height of Covid paranoia, about eleven percent of the Catholic population was going to church regularly. Now it's up to about 15%, and of course "we" are looking for ways to lure some people back. We anticipate that some of the people who are comfortable at the two churches that are being downgraded will either stop going to church or go someplace else. But if they remain Catholic, we are about the only game in town.

The Cajuna Virus was a dramatic blow to the Church. A lot of people stayed home and a lot of people just disengaged, stopping their regular contributions. Most are slowly coming back...but not all.

The other issue - the Elephant in the Room, so to speak - was the pedophilia scandal in the Church and the perception that Church leadership failed to deal with it appropriately, thus causing the abuse to continue and even expand after the problems were known.

The problem with the pedo scandal is that it is impossible to defend the institution. As soon as one says, "but those guys were an aberration, a small percentage of the total of priests, and they intentionally hid their activities from the hierarchy..." he is branded an enabler, making excuses, or worse. But that is the fact. The pedophile-priests betrayed the institution, intentionally using the mask of the priesthood to facilitate their perversion. Punishing the 95% of priests who remained and remain with the program, and punishing everyone else associated with the Church is...[wait for it]...perverse.

I have no doubt that many people who simply don't want to go to church, or don't want to contribute anything are using the scandal and, now, the Cajuna Virus as an excuse, but it's time to be adult about it. No institution is perfect, but the FAITH remains what it was before the scandal, before the virus, and priests who are in place right now are both courageous and admirable for their perseverence in the face of tremendous pressure and criticism. Who can go to work every day knowing that a large percentage of the population assumes you are a monster?

The Church is NEEDED in American society right now. The forces of evil are ascendant; if you can't see it you are either blind or not paying attention. Even if you don't strictly believe all of the articles of faith that you learned from the Baltimore Catechism, get your ass back to church.

I have spoken.
The death of the Catholic Church occurred with the installation of Vatican 2 combined with the advancement of Feminism, the Pill, Diversity, Quotas and the massive Social Welfare States. And Europe was ahead of the United States in the early 1970's when this occurred here. Churches and Schools started to close. Some rather quickly. Some lingered. Great structures built in another time for many areas. Tearing down many of them for other uses. Never to see the likes of how they were built again from talented people mostly born overseas. Nuns lived in convents with monthly meager stipends out of faith. To run the convent with 16 nuns for a year may have been cheaper then a few public school teachers. Those days are gone generally. But in specific areas they still do well. John Paul 2 is criticized by some. When he became Pope he saw us as a beacon. By his death he saw us as losing our way. We have. We are not allowed to have an outside moral foundation anymore to look up to. Even if we break the rules. It means do not stray to far. And those who abhor religion and things that constrict are glad of it. Now we all suffer more and more because our straying is more and more and it costs more and more for governments to quell the populace from going ape shit from the results of our desires.
 

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