Zone1 A Great Authority Given Unto the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ

Neither the word “Trinity” nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

You practice Mithraism, the Babylonian "mystery religion" of the Roman government and military.

" A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Catholics seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, English mass."

Your Catholic Church established in 325 CE assimilated and perverted Christianity when Caesar conferred his power and authority to the Papacy who wiped out all other sects. Then like a wild beast mated with every pagan religion on earth adopting its degrading practices effectively burying the teaching of Jesus under a mountain of blasphemy upon which your church sits like a dragon.
Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny and Lucian, testify that early Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The written manuscripts are testimonials as to why early Christians worshiped Jesus as God.
 
Yes... In your previous post you claimed the following, "You claim that Peter was the rock/perta/stone............but Peter said Jesus was the ROCK. What? Its Peter that is confused about Jesus being the Son of the living God in Matthew 16 not your cult?" So don't lie and try to tell me that you didn't falsely accuse me of believing that Peter was the rock. Yes it is true that I do believe that Christ has restored his true church on the earth and it is led again by Apostles and Prophets. This did not continue however from the days of Peter but after a great apostasy the church was eventually restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith in 1830. The keys of the kingdom were restored

The apostle Paul taught that God gave apostles and prophets to a part of the church until we all come in the unity of the faith, unto a perfect man, unto the measure and stature of Jesus himself. No church has ever reached that degree of unity and therefore we should still have apostles and prophets in the church.

Ephesians 4:
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

But do we see these apostles in any church throughout time up until the present? NO! This is because the church fell away into a world wide apostasy and necessitated a restoration of the church. Even those who protested against the Catholic church could see that it was the same church that Jesus established. But simply breaking off from an apostate church did not give them the power or authority that was once had with the apostles and prophets once had in Christ's true church. Which of the protestant churches have apostles and prophets to teach them until we all come to the unity of the Faith? They don't.

According to what scripture?

Here you prove that the apostles sought to replace Judas with Mathias after Judas' apostasy and death. Paul also was called to be an apostle after the days of Jesus. Why? Because, as Paul taught in Ephesians 4 above, the church was to have apostles and prophets until we all came to a unity of the faith, unto a perfect man, unto the measure and stature of the fulness of Christ himself. The church has never reached this status. Thus we still need apostles and prophets.

An apostle is a special witness of Jesus Christ and his resurrection. But this does not mean that you had to be living on the earth at the time Jesus resurrected. Paul had a vision of Jesus and thus became a witness that he was risen from the dead and was resurrected. Jesus can appear to anyone and witness to them that he is resurrected today and even have them touch him. Jesus appeared to Joseph Smith and others when he restored his church again upon the face of the earth. He continues to appear unto his apostles and they are special witnesses today of his resurrection and that he leads his church today. When Jesus makes his second coming to the world, he will have already set up his church and called apostles and prophets and they and his church will be caught up to meet him in the clouds.

Jesus expects us to walk by faith. He does not do the miracles he does to prove to the unbelieving that his church is true. If you lack faith that is something you need to learn. Miracles follow those who already have the faith.


More Dogs Barking?

What? You can read simple English....can't you? Yet you keep presenting the DEBUNKED false claims of Mormonism when Every book, chapter and verse was presented that proves Smith was a fraud (no signs and wonders to prove new revelations came from Heaven.....name ONE miracle preformed by Smith and document as as truth with OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE, testable, reproducible evidence. The original Apostles never accused those who witnessed their miraculous acts with failure because of a lack of faith of the witnesses.........it is impossible to make new doctrine when the apostles of Christ received all things pertaining to life and godliness through Jesus Christ in the 1st century. (2 Peter 1:3)

The faith of Jesus Christ was delivered ONCE through the saints of the 1st century....(Jude 3)


As previously stated...........PROVE any one of your so called modern day apostles to be an approved Apostle of Christ through signs and wonders. Next.......if your book of Mormon was indeed inspired of God, why does it contradict 1st century doctrine which was supposedly inspired by the same God? (2 Tim. 3:15-16) Which states quite clearly that the Holy Scriptures present all that the man of God needs to become "PERFECT" .....whole/complete in the original Koine Greek.......equipping the man of God with everything for righteous works.

Strange that Jesus Christ waited almost 2000 years to appoint new apostles. What.........was the church without divine guidance for over 1800 years?


There is no logic or reason presented by Mormonism.......its all based upon claims with no verification. You will not see any true member of the Church of Christ....beg for money, as everyone gives as they have been prospered........claim that God talks to them personally through modern day apostles, claim they have the power to become gods themselves......present a doctrine of polygamy
 
Last edited:
As far as the supposed church of latter day saints? "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his (Satan) ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." -- 2 Cor. 11:13-15
 
The written manuscripts are testimonials as to why early Christians worshiped Jesus as God

Neither the word “Trinity” nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

In the Gospels when Jesus said he would be "lifted up" like Moses lifted up the bronze serpent for the people to turn to for healing during the time of testing in the wilderness Jesus was warning that he would present a test and would become the object of idolatry just like the bronze serpent.

Hezekiah was credited with keeping Gods commands and doing what was right in Gods eyes by destroying the statue Moses made. Here is the thing. If it was right to destroy the bronze serpent then it was never right to turn to it for healing. So if you ever want to get out of the hell you are in for failing "the test" all you have to do is ask yourself, "What would Hezekiah do?" and then do it.

Its easy.
 
Neither the word “Trinity” nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

In the Gospels when Jesus said he would be "lifted up" like Moses lifted up the bronze serpent for the people to turn to for healing during the time of testing in the wilderness Jesus was warning that he would present a test and would become the object of idolatry just like the bronze serpent.

Hezekiah was credited with keeping Gods commands and doing what was right in Gods eyes by destroying the statue Moses made. Here is the thing. If it was right to destroy the bronze serpent then it was never right to turn to it for healing. So if you ever want to get out of the hell you are in for failing "the test" all you have to do is ask yourself, "What would Hezekiah do?" and then do it.

Its easy.
Don't believe I brought up the trinity. Just that the first Christians worshiped Jesus as God and non-Christian historians recorded them doing so. :)
 
Neither the word “Trinity” nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

In the Gospels when Jesus said he would be "lifted up" like Moses lifted up the bronze serpent for the people to turn to for healing during the time of testing in the wilderness Jesus was warning that he would present a test and would become the object of idolatry just like the bronze serpent.

Hezekiah was credited with keeping Gods commands and doing what was right in Gods eyes by destroying the statue Moses made. Here is the thing. If it was right to destroy the bronze serpent then it was never right to turn to it for healing. So if you ever want to get out of the hell you are in for failing "the test" all you have to do is ask yourself, "What would Hezekiah do?" and then do it.

Its easy.
Godhead......consisting of 3 distinct persons is mentioned by the Apostles of Christ. And the concept of the God is addressed 5 times in the Old Testament (Genesis 6:2, 4 Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7)..............and several times in the New Testament (Matthew 5:9, Luke 20:36, Romans 8:14, 19, Gal.3:26) Some might argue that GOD HEAD in the OLD TESTAMENT is different because the term refers to Sons of God (those that follow God).........exactly as Jesus explains the concept of Godhead and its parts while He was in His physical form on earth in the New Testament.

"Just as each of us have one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we are man form one body, and each member belongs to all others." -- Romans 12:4. The Apostle added, "The body is a unit, through it is made up of many parts, they form one body; SO IT IS WITH CHRIST." -- 1 Cor. 12:12

Jesus also taught that two persons can become 1 without giving up their individual identity..........marriage creates 1 from 2.......2 or more people make ONE FAMILY. (Matthew 19:5-6) The Godhead is a family of deity, and all 3 are mentioned in being in one place at one time........the Father Spoke from Heaven, The Holy Ghost appeared as a Dove, When Jesus the Son of God////aka the Son of Man was baptized by John the baptist when He came up out of the water empowered with power from Heaven. (Matt. 3:13-17)

Jesus explains the GODHEAD.......aka, the trinity. "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who believe in Me through their message, that all of them may be one, FARTHER , just as YOU ARE IN ME and I AM IN YOU..........." -- John 17:20-22

The Godhead is found in (Acts 17:29).....also, "For in Him (Jesus) dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily......" -- Col. 2:9

Jesus believed in the Godhead and declares in order to enter the kingdom of God...i.e, the church of Christ (Matthew 16, Acts 2) you must be baptized in the Name of the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost, as we (Christians) are to follow all His commandments (Matt. 28:18-20). Jesus was with God in the Beginning and WAS GOD (John 1) All things are created through Jesus Christ.......all things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible (spirit and physical).......AND HE IS BEFORE ALL THINGS (Col. 1:16-17)

The fact there are more than 1 being making up the Godhead is demonstrated in Genesis, "And the Lord God said; BEHOLD! The man is become as ONE OF "US"....(God) -- Genesis 3:22
 
Last edited:
Godhead......consisting of 3 distinct persons is mentioned by the Apostles of Christ.
You believe in the antichrist. A false counterfeit Jesus made in the image and likeness of Mithras.

* A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, in other words, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic, anti-female religion. Its priesthood consisted of celibate men only
 
Don't believe I brought up the trinity. Just that the first Christians worshiped Jesus as God and non-Christian historians recorded them doing so. :)

Very clever. lol. Either way the "first Christians" failed the test by worshiping a Jewish man as if he was god in the flesh, a Roman perversion of Jesus, just like people failed the test in the very same day they first set aside the Law of God and turned to a bronze statue of a serpent for healing.

"the Son of Man must be "lifted up" just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness,” John 3:14

"Because you have done this, You are cursed above all livestock, and above every beast of the field, on your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life. " Genesis 3:14
 
Last edited:
Very clever. lol. Either way the "first Christians" failed the test by worshiping a Jewish man as if he was god in the flesh, a Roman perversion of Jesus, just like people failed the test in the very same day they first set aside the Law of God and turned to a bronze statue of a serpent for healing.

"the Son of Man must be "lifted up" just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness,” John 3:14

"Because you have done this, You are cursed above all livestock, and above every beast of the field, on your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life. " Genesis 3:14
Except the evidence proves Jesus was fully God too which is why he was worshiped as God by the first Christians. :)
 
Except the evidence proves Jesus was fully God too
There is no evidence. In fact John 20:17 is evidence that Jesus did not think of himself or claim to be God. What you call evidence are the "miraculous" accounts of Jesus opening the eyes of the blind, raising the dead, curing the paralyzed, cleansing lepers, calming the storm, turning water into wine, casting out demons, ascending into heaven, etc., which all had absolutely nothing whatever to do with anything supernatural. You have been diverted by superstitious archaic lore and lost your mind, your very soul, to whatever demons put that delusion into your addled head.

The only evidence you have provided is that the Law of my God remains in effect and in full force.

And some people don't "believe" in "the death", a curse, for setting aside the Divine commands.

Imagine that!
 
Last edited:
There is no evidence. In fact John 20:17 is evidence that Jesus did not think of himself or claim to be God. What you call evidence are the "miraculous" accounts of Jesus opening the eyes of the blind, raising the dead, curing the paralyzed, cleansing lepers, calming the storm, turning water into wine, casting out demons, ascending into heaven, etc., which had absolutely nothing whatever to do with anything supernatural. You have been diverted by superstitious archaic lore.

And lost your mind, your very soul, to whatever demons put that garbage into your addled head.
Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny and Lucian said otherwise.
 
They say the first Christians fell for the same crap you have. But damn, you should know better.

Schnook.
What else could you argue, right? The EVIDENCE has got you snookered.
 
What else could you argue, right? The EVIDENCE has got you snookered.
I am not arguing. I am just stating the facts. Your so called EVIDENCE, lol, only proves that some people are not very deep thinkers and have gone mad, which reveals the wisdom of my God in giving the command to refrain from the "flesh" of unclean creatures that DO NOT RUMINATE by showing the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that easy instruction aside.
 
I am not arguing. I am just stating the facts. Your so called EVIDENCE, lol, only proves that some people are not very deep thinkers and have gone mad, which reveals the wisdom of my God in giving the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that DO NOT RUMINATE and the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that simple instruction aside.
You most certainly are making arguments against the divinity of Christ. You just don't have any evidence for it.
 
You most certainly are making arguments against the divinity of Christ. You just don't have any evidence for it.
Don't be silly. Even when confronted by Pilate Jesus was asked if he was a king, not a god. Jesus replied, "King is your word. My task is to bear witness to the truth." Didn't you read the story?

If Jesus was 100% human then he was just a man sent by God to teach, not perform magic tricks. His teaching, words from God, had 'miraculous' effects, by restoring sanity to the brainwashed.

The sick, the crippled, the deaf, the blind, the paralyzed, and many who were 'dead' for decades.

Can I get an oink oink? A hee haw? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?
 
Last edited:
Don't be silly. Even when confronted by Pilate Jesus was asked if he was a king, not a god. Jesus replied, "King is your word. My task is to bear witness to the truth." Didn't you read the story?

If Jesus was 100% human then he was just a man sent by God to teach, not perform magic tricks. His teaching, words from God, had 'miraculous' effects, by restoring sanity to the brainwashed.

The dead.

Can I get an oink oink? A hee haw? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?
The first Christians who witnessed the supernatural acts performed by Jesus - which included controlling matter, controlling nature, healing physical deformities, healing diseases, raising the dead and resurrecting himself from death - worshiped Jesus as God because they witnessed those miracles. Non-Christian historians recorded that the first Christians worshiped Jesus as God because he performed supernatural feats. 24,000 written manuscripts documented the supernatural feats Jesus performed and the first Christians witnessed. The Babylonian Talmud confirms Jewish religious leaders put Jesus to death for sorcery and for leading Israel into apostasy. There are no opposing accounts that document that Jesus did not perform any supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that argue Jesus wasn't put to death for performing sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy. There are no opposing accounts which document Jesus wasn't resurrected. There are no opposing accounts that the first Christians didn't witness Jesus performing supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that document the first Christians didn't worship Jesus as God.
 
The first Christians who witnessed the supernatural acts performed by Jesus - which included controlling matter
Okey dokey. Enjoy your delusions! :booze:

Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword I am sending among them

:wine:

Still works like a charm!
 
Okey dokey. Enjoy your delusions! :booze:

Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword I am sending among them"

:wine:

Still works like a charm!
You misspelled evidence.
 
You misspelled evidence.
Right. That's what I thought. When confronted with Logos, Divine reasoning, you've got nothing.

Now off you go you faithless twit!
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom