A fatal flaw with the security of mail-in ballots . . . no chain of custody

[Foxfyre]

The OP merely shows he does not understand how these ballots work.

I know my husband and I are the only ones living in our single family home and we received 5 ballots in 2020. Five! We didn't use any of them but preferred to vote in person. But I guarantee you had we filled out all five ballots, all five would likely have been processed.

 

[leftwinger]

Corrupted Deep State plants in certain States can flood out tens of thousands of Ballots to “unlikely” or “non-citizen” names on a dirty voter roll. Then can send to bad addresses “to be returned”. They can clean up addresses and re-send.

presto 32,000 ballots floating around “returned” or “sitting” in USPS for corrupted harvesters to get them to “2000” Mules. Uh…..yes it happened in AZ GA etc.

 

[johnwk]

Corrupted Deep State plants in certain States can flood out tens of thousands of Ballots to “unlikely” or “non-citizen” names on a dirty voter roll. Then can send to bad addresses “to be returned”. They can clean up addresses and re-send.

presto 32,000 ballots floating around “returned” or “sitting” in USPS for corrupted harvesters to get them to “2000” Mules. Uh…..yes it happened in AZ GA etc.

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You are absolutely correct. Additionally, anyone of a state's election officers wanting to rig an election and having access to various state data bases containing personal information on in-state residents, i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily create a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban [populas] voting district, using that information, and introduce them into the system, e.g., ballot drop–box stuffing, with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted.

The truth is, because of the fatal flaw of no chain of custody with mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to verify if a mail-in ballot, when counted, was filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who was issued the ballot. But when a person presents adequate ID at a polling station and enters the booth, there is certainty that person in that booth is filling out the ballot and checking the choices thereon.

Considering how government agencies, in just the past few years, have been used by some very notoriously evil folks in government to attack political opponents, and even now, at this very moment, are working to prevent a popular candidate from being on the ballot in a number of states, how can anyone even suggest they would not use the weaknesses in mail-in voting to rig an election?

If this weakness, a lack of chain of custody in mail-in voting, is not addressed immediately, our election process, which is our nation’s way for peaceful change, will be no better than that of Russia, China or Cuba, where there is one party authoritarian rule.

The bottom line is, our election process is at a tipping point headed for total corruption.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Hey, MAGA, Qanon, et al:

 

[leftwinger]

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You are absolutely correct. Additionally, anyone of a state's election officers wanting to rig an election and having access to various state data bases containing personal information on in-state residents, i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily create a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban [populas] voting district, using that information, and introduce them into the system, e.g., ballot drop–box stuffing, with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted.

The truth is, because of the fatal flaw of no chain of custody with mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to verify if a mail-in ballot, when counted, was filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who was issued the ballot. But when a person presents adequate ID at a polling station and enters the booth, there is certainty that person in that booth is filling out the ballot and checking the choices thereon.

Considering how government agencies, in just the past few years, have been used by some very notoriously evil folks in government to attack political opponents, and even now, at this very moment, are working to prevent a popular candidate from being on the ballot in a number of states, how can anyone even suggest they would not use the weaknesses in mail-in voting to rig an election?

If this weakness, a lack of chain of custody in mail-in voting, is not addressed immediately, our election process, which is our nation’s way for peaceful change, will be no better than that of Russia, China or Cuba, where there is one party authoritarian rule.

The bottom line is, our election process is at a tipping point headed for total corruption.

Exactly as OP suggests. Never any accounting shown. Ballots ordered/printed, envelopes etc. sent? remaining? Returned? They are as valuable as $100 bills yet treated like GOVT junk mail.

 

[leftwinger]

It seems State Politicians don’t want to do the work to address the problems or make waves? Too lazy? Fear of losing next election? Fear of Deep State retaliation?

 

[Foxfyre]

Corrupted Deep State plants in certain States can flood out tens of thousands of Ballots to “unlikely” or “non-citizen” names on a dirty voter roll. Then can send to bad addresses “to be returned”. They can clean up addresses and re-send.

presto 32,000 ballots floating around “returned” or “sitting” in USPS for corrupted harvesters to get them to “2000” Mules. Uh…..yes it happened in AZ GA etc.

That's what happened to us. Two of the ballots we received in 2020 were addressed to us. The other three to people who had lived with us decades ago and haven't lived in our state for decades now. One of them now deceased. But they're apparently still on the voter rolls.

Hubby just reminded me there was another that arrived after that batch of five. It was addressed to a former owner of our home who died in 1998.

 

[candycorn]

You are calling me ignorant on the process of validating ballots but it is yourself who has yet to provide any detail or insight as to “how” that is done other than “we have workers” to check ballots.

Different states have different procedures. You did know that...didn’t you?

Adopting a little personal accountability would a long way in your entitlement to intellectual authority.

Accepting that your blob lost would be the first step to returning to a reality-based life. But if you enjoy your cult...that’s your business.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Different states have different procedures. You did know that...didn’t you?

Accepting that your blob lost would be the first step to returning to a reality-based life. But if you enjoy your cult...that’s your business.

Different states have different procedures but we have yet to see you detail one procedure.

My concern for election security dates back to ever since I’ve been old enough to understand elections. Case in point…. My guy won in 2000 yet I was deeply concerned that an election came down to “hanging chads”.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The burden of proof is on LeftofLeft not candycorn.

Get to it, LoL.

 

[johnwk]

The burden of proof is on LeftofLeft not candycorn.

Get to it, LoL.

How many Wandas have not got caught?

Bridgeport city employee Wanda Geter-Pataky, center, works with her lawyer, John R. Gulash, right, to know which questions to answer so as not to incriminate herself during her testimony in Bridgeport Democratic Primary Mayoral candidate John Gomes’ challenge of absentee ballots in Superior Court in Bridgeport, Conn., Friday, Oct. 13, 2023. Geter-Pataky was shown video clips of herself placing quantities of absentee ballots into election drop boxes. At left is Judge William Clark. (Brian A. Pounds/Hearst Connecticut Media via AP, Pool)

How many Bruce Bartmans' have not got caught?

PhillyVoice – 30 Apr 21

Delco man gets probation for casting dead mother's vote for Donald Trump

Bruce Bartman, 70, used an old driver's license to circumvent Pennsylvania's online voter system.

From the article:

Bruce Bartman, 70, pleaded guilty to felony counts of perjury and unlawful voting last December after investigators discovered he had successfully cast a mail-in ballot for his mother, who died 12 years ago.

Mail-in ballots allow for all kinds of created vote stealing and government perpetrated election fraud.

 

[Rawley]

Are those voter roles regularly purged to get rid of erroneous data?

certainly not here in CA. They had to sue to get the state to clean up the rolls. In my country LA, there were over 1.5M illegal registration.

I'm still getting ballots for folks at that have not lived at my address for over ten years,

 

[ThisIsMe]

Hey dipshit, 2016 was before COVID

My bad. The question should be, how many states did “mass mail in voting” compared to normal absentee balloting and how many did that in 2016 compared to 2020.

 

[bodecea]

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You are absolutely correct. Additionally, anyone of a state's election officers wanting to rig an election and having access to various state data bases containing personal information on in-state residents, i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily create a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots, per urban [populas] voting district, using that information, and introduce them into the system, e.g., ballot drop–box stuffing, with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when counted.

The truth is, because of the fatal flaw of no chain of custody with mail-in ballots, there is no practical way to verify if a mail-in ballot, when counted, was filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who was issued the ballot. But when a person presents adequate ID at a polling station and enters the booth, there is certainty that person in that booth is filling out the ballot and checking the choices thereon.

Considering how government agencies, in just the past few years, have been used by some very notoriously evil folks in government to attack political opponents, and even now, at this very moment, are working to prevent a popular candidate from being on the ballot in a number of states, how can anyone even suggest they would not use the weaknesses in mail-in voting to rig an election?

If this weakness, a lack of chain of custody in mail-in voting, is not addressed immediately, our election process, which is our nation’s way for peaceful change, will be no better than that of Russia, China or Cuba, where there is one party authoritarian rule.

The bottom line is, our election process is at a tipping point headed for total corruption.

This OP is working very very hard to deny the vote to our deployed troops.

 

[johnwk]

This OP is working very very hard to deny the vote to our deployed troops.

The glaring flaws with mail-in ballots

1. There is a loss of chain of custody from the time a mail-in ballot is received by a theoretically legitimate recipient of a mail-in ballot, to the time when that mail-in ballot is counted.

2. There is no practical way to scrutinize a mail-in ballot when counted, to verify that it was actually filled out, and the choices made thereon, were by a qualified voter who allegedly was issued the ballot.

3. With in-person voting, and the use of appropriate ID before a qualified voter is allowed into the voting booth, there is an extremely high certainty that the one voting in the booth and checking the choices on the ballot, is a legitimate voter and making their choices.

4. Any election officer with a desire to perpetrate election fraud and has access to various state data bases containing personal information on in-state residents, i.e., driver’s license, voter rolls, tax returns, etc., can easily fabricate a few thousand fraudulent mail-in ballots per urban voting district [meaning large populous district] using that information, fill them out and introduce them into the system [e.g. drop boxes or mail boxes] with a slim to no chance of these ballots ever being detected when they are counted.

There is a legitimate need for mail-in voting. But mail-in voting ought to be limited to those with a legitimate excuse for being unable to vote in person, e.g., see PA’s Constitution (ARTICLE VII, ELECTIONS, § 14. Absentee Voting)

By limiting mail-in voting to those with a legitimate excuse for being unable to vote in person, the total number of mail-in ballots would be greatly reduced to a fraction of what is now the case, and in so doing, even though the opportunity for mail-in ballot vote stealing and government perpetrated election fraud would still exist, their effect on an election would be greatly reduced by the reduction in actual mail-in ballots allowed.

Check out: Voting Fraud Is a Real Concern. Just Look Around the World



If the American people do not clean up their election process before the coming election, they will be inviting the kinds of elections held in China, Russia and Cuba, where there is on party rule.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Then notify the officials, Johnwk.

You may have better luck there than here.

 

[johnwk]

Well, isn't this interesting? Another case of vote stealing in New York. This one involves stealing the votes of 118 people using mail-in ballots.

Queens man forged absentee ballots in Democratic primary as part of voter fraud scheme: DA

Abdul Rahman, 32, of Floral Park, was arraigned Tuesday for allegedly requesting and submitting dozens of fraudulent absentee ballots ahead of the Democratic primary election in August 2022.

nypost.com

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Thank you for proving the system works, Johnwk.

 

[johnwk]

Thank you for proving the system works, Johnwk.

The Abdul Rahman case of vote stealing confirms mail-in voting is ripe for fraud and manipulation


The case confirms the supposed safeguards put in place to prevent vote stealing using mail-in ballots are illusionary at best, and the example of Abdul Rahman getting caught exhibits an anomaly occurred which triggered his being caught.

The fact is it was not a safeguard preventing Abdul Rahman from fraudulently acquiring 118 ballots. He successfully got those 118 ballots, made the choices thereon and introduced them into the system. And no safeguard up to this point in time, prevented his actions. Had one of the legitimate named voters among those 118 ballots not shown up to vote, no safeguard put in place would have prevented Abdul’s clever scheme from being successful, and this shows a glaring deficiency to prevent vote stealing with mail-in ballots.

Stop making crap up. Mail-in ballots make it easy as pie to steal votes and allow for government perpetrated election fraud.

If this is not corrected before the 2024 election, we will wind up with the kinds of elections held in China, Russia and Cuba, where there is one party authoritarian rule.

JWK

“We often give enemies the means of our own destruction.” -- Aesop.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

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The Abdul Rahman case of vote stealing confirms mail-in voting is ripe for fraud and manipulation


The case confirms the supposed safeguards put in place to prevent vote stealing using mail-in ballots are illusionary at best, and the example of Abdul Rahman getting caught exhibits an anomaly occurred which triggered his being caught.

The fact is it was not a safeguard preventing Abdul Rahman from fraudulently acquiring 118 ballots. He successfully got those 118 ballots, made the choices thereon and introduced them into the system. And no safeguard up to this point in time, prevented his actions. Had one of the legitimate named voters among those 118 ballots not shown up to vote, no safeguard put in place would have prevented Abdul’s clever scheme from being successful, and this shows a glaring deficiency to prevent vote stealing with mail-in ballots.

Stop making crap up. Mail-in ballots make it easy as pie to steal votes and allow for government perpetrated election fraud.

If this is not corrected before the 2024 election, we will wind up with the kinds of elections held in China, Russia and Cuba, where there is one party authoritarian rule.

JWK

“We often give enemies the means of our own destruction.” -- Aesop.

The system proves that minor errors will be caught.

You have absolutely no evidence of any system problems.