A discussion about rifles and capabilities

[1srelluc]

Beautiful pic. Love the lever action. Marlin?

Yeah, a Marlin 1893 in .30-30.

 

[Failzero]

Yeah, a Marlin 1893 in .30-30.

Cowboy Guns ( Both real Historic and Modern ) are Meh to me , I’m almost entirely into Military Firearms of the Second Half of the 20th Century

 

[Chuz Life]

Cowboy Guns ( Both real Historic and Modern ) are Meh to me , I’m almost entirely into Military Firearms of the Second Half of the 20th Century

Do you see how that comment might be taken as a dis to his Grandfather and or his gun?

Not exactly fighting words, but why go there?

 

[1srelluc]

Cowboy Guns ( Both real Historic and Modern ) are Meh to me , I’m almost entirely into Military Firearms of the Second Half of the 20th Century

Nobody cares.

 

[AZrailwhale]

M-14 was standard issue when I enlisted in 1968. I really liked that rifle and have always thought I'd like to add one to my collection. I have a couple of .308s but I don't like either as much as I liked that M-14.

The only thing I didn't like about the M-14 I shot in ROTC in high school was that it had the hinged butt plate used in the Auto rifle, and you couldn't get a good tight shoulder contact. No matter how tight I cinched it, it always had a couple of millimeters to get a running start at battering my shoulder. That being said, as a brand-new shooter with only a couple of hours of instructions, I was shooting six-inch groups at 300 meters at a bullseye at Fort Irwin. In Basic, two years later I used to better that with a badly worn M-16.

 

[Failzero]

Nobody cares.

About Lever Action Rifles

 

[AZrailwhale]

The scope is shown on the rifle as it was found.

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Looks like a Simmons or Tasco, but they most all from the 80-90's look the same.

Edit. I just noticed how far back in the scope rings that scope is mounted. For someone with a weird check rest, really bad eyesight? Not much eye relief.

PS. where did the freaking cardboard box come from? Did the cops just grab one up - when they knew they were going to where the thought the gun was hidden (as the tranny roommate told them about it?)

PSS. How do we have so much information on this Antifa-Tard and still NOTHING on Crooks, who tried to take out Trump?

It's probably one they use to store evidence. I know they have specific boxed for pistols with tie down points so the gun doesn't get damaged before going to court and that box looks about the same. It looks like there is something tying down the trigger guard.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The scope is shown on the rifle as it was found.

View attachment 1162038

Looks like a Simmons or Tasco, but they most all from the 80-90's look the same.

Edit. I just noticed how far back in the scope rings that scope is mounted. For someone with a weird check rest, really bad eyesight? Not much eye relief.

PS. where did the freaking cardboard box come from? Did the cops just grab one up - when they knew they were going to where the thought the gun was hidden (as the tranny roommate told them about it?)

PSS. How do we have so much information on this Antifa-Tard and still NOTHING on Crooks, who tried to take out Trump?

It's probably one they use to store evidence. I know they have specific boxes for pistols with tie down points so the gun doesn't get damaged before going to court and that box looks about the same. It looks like there is something tying down the trigger guard.

 

[Concerned American]

The only thing I didn't like about the M-14 I shot in ROTC in high school was that it had the hinged butt plate used in the Auto rifle, and you couldn't get a good tight shoulder contact. No matter how tight I cinched it, it always had a couple of millimeters to get a running start at battering my shoulder. That being said, as a brand-new shooter with only a couple of hours of instructions, I was shooting six-inch groups at 300 meters at a bullseye at Fort Irwin. In Basic, two years later I used to better that with a badly worn M-16.

I spent a couple years at MCSC Barstow.

 

[Chuz Life]

OMFG!

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Due to the tendency for discussions to devolve into meaningless nonsense in the Politics and Current Events areas, I wanted some talk among actual shooters about the topic. Yes, this is spurred by the assassination shot two days ago.

We are told that the range was two hundred yards or so. That the assassin used a high powered rifle and that is what it would take, oh that it had to be a professional hitter to make it.

We know better. 200 yards is a little far, but doable, for a friggin 30-30. Any Remington 700BDL in .270 will make that shot all day with an inexpensive scope from WalMart.

Anyway, I brought this here, where shooters reside, to hear some common sense discussion on the topic. Weapons and skill, not politics or ideology.

I never missed the 300 meter target on an M-16 with iron sites in the Army.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

OMFG!

What the **** is that guy talking about ? Never heard of an origami hunting rifle.

 

[Concerned American]

I never missed the 300 meter target on an M-16 with iron sites in the Army.

I don't ever remember seeing Maggie's drawers.

 

[westwall]

In other 2A threads I spoke of my trips to the range and my successes and failures at distance with rifles I have or have access to and will retrace plowed ground.
My vision isn’t terrific, I require glasses, and normally limit myself to the hundred yard range at our local facility. The rifles I shoot most often are chambered in .308 and 7.62 x 39. I do well enough that I am not going to win any matches, but I hit what I point at.
Anyway, for grins, I tried the longer ranges, on different days. Metal plates that I judge to be about 18” square, every hundred yards out to 500.
With the PSAK and a mid range scope, using Wolf steel case rounds, 200 was no misses, 300, about 75%, 400 about half, and they needed to mow, 500 were hidden behind Johnson grass.
All this to say that I do not find the assassin’s shot all that remarkable.

That's because it wasn't. And, technically, he missed. He was aiming for Charlie's head, but didn’t compensate for the elevation difference which caused him to miss low.

Still fatal, but a clear indicator that he wasn't a pro.

 

[JWBooth]

I spent a couple years at MCSC Barstow.

Condolences
Barstow, such a lovely place.

 

[1srelluc]

OMFG!

LOL....Well he could have removed the bolt like the "walking boss" did in Cool Hand Luke.

 

[Concerned American]

Condolences
Barstow, such a lovely place.

Late 60s, it was even lovelier. LOL

 

[Grau]

Cowboy Guns ( Both real Historic and Modern ) are Meh to me , I’m almost entirely into Military Firearms of the Second Half of the 20th Century

I suspect that you too couldn't resist buying a bunch of old Mosin Nagant rifles when they were about $100- apiece.

It's hard to turn down such an inexpensive piece of history that's also fun to shoot.

Enjoy...

 

[Grau]

I have read that it was a 30.06 and AI seems to agree. Just what I've read.
The weapon recovered after the murder of Charlie Kirk was a high-powered Mauser .30-06 bolt-action rifle, found wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus where the shooting occurred.

I don't like the idea of "sporterizing" an old military rifle because authentic WW 1 and WW 2 rifles aren't being made anymore.

It's like trashing a fine old antique car, they're unique as they are.

I think that most people realize that many modern bolt action rifles today have bolts based on the old Mauser design.

Thanks,

 

[JGalt]

I don't like the idea of "sporterizing" an old military rifle because authentic WW 1 and WW 2 rifles aren't being made anymore.

It's like trashing a fine old antique car, they're unique as they are.

I think that most people realize that many modern bolt action rifles today have bolts based on the old Mauser design.

Thanks,

I have several Bubba-fucked military rifles in my gun safe. Not very pretty to look at, but they're good shooters.