A clear desire for martyrdom.

[berg80]

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial​

The judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll's damages trial in New York federal court warned former President Donald Trump on Wednesday that he might bar him from the courtroom for grousing loudly and animatedly to his lawyer during Carroll's testimony about how he repeatedly defamed her.

"Mr. Trump has the right to be present here. That right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive" and "if he disregards court orders," U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan told Trump and his attorney after the jury had left the courtroom.

"Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial. I understand you are very eager for me to do that," Kaplan said.

"I would love it. I would love it," Trump responded.

"I know you would, because you just can’t control yourself in this circumstance, apparently. You just can't," Kaplan shot back before an exasperated Trump threw his hands in the air. "Neither can you," Trump said.

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial

Trump complained repeatedly to his lawyers during Carroll's testimony, leading U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan to ask him "to keep his voice down so the jury does not overhear it.”

www.nbcnews.com

Just as everyone understands Trump is the only person who is allowed to get away with this boorish behavior, for which a contempt of court charge was justified, everyone understands why. Judge Kaplan certainly does. Trump is extending his chin while sticking his thumb in Kaplan's eye hoping for a response. An appropriate response. But one that will be seen by The Following as Trump being victimized. Obfuscating the fact E. Jean Carroll is the victim.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The Stalinist Struggle is REAL........

really PATHETIC!!!!!

 

[DGS49]

This is a curious and outrageous case to anyone shackled by the burden of rational thought.

The original "RAPE" accusation, made in a book, was preposterous on its face. Can anyone even imagine Trump, who always travels with a large posse, forcibly raping a middle-aged woman in a department store dressing room, and nobody noticing? It is ridiculous. When Trump called her out on her lie, she sued him for defamation. Only in Manhattan one might say.

She sued him for sexual assault, and the jury found that there was a "preponderance of evidence" that he did something to her - they HATE Trump in Manhattan - so they found for the Plaintiff, to wit, he sexually assaulted her. But it is noteworthy that they DID NOT FIND that he raped her. See preceding paragraph. But look what the judge did with this jury finding (highlighting is mine):

The jury also found that Trump did not “rape” Carroll, per the “narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law.” But Judge Kaplan noted in Caroll II that this definition did not capture how the term is commonly used – and that, properly understood outside the specific and limited context of the New York Penal Law, the jury found that Trump did indeed rape Carroll. “[T]he definition of rape in the New York Penal Law is far narrower than the meaning of ‘rape’ in common modern parlance, its definition in some dictionaries, in some federal and state criminal statutes, and elsewhere. The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’ Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

So while the jury found that Trump didn't rape her, they really found that he did rape her (according to the judge). Only in Manhattan.

So the judge seeks to forbid Trump from denying that he raped her, asserting that such a claim of innocence on his part IS SLANDER!

With apologies for my Pittsburgh-ese reaction, but the judge is a Jag-Off who, in most other jurisdictions, would be sanctioned for judicial misconduct and possibly even disbarred. But this is New York, so all bets are off.

 

[Dragonlady]

The Stalinist Struggle is REAL........

really PATHETIC!!!!!

I wouldn't call Trump PATHETIC. Pathetic implies there's nothing he can do about his behaviour. Trump is being a wilful, entitled asshole. There is nothing pathetic about him at all.

 

[berg80]

The original "RAPE" accusation, made in a book, was preposterous on its face.

It was? You do know 25 other women have accused him of various types of sexual assault, right? And then there's...........

Donald J. Trump: You know and ...

Unknown: She used to be great. She’s still very beautiful.

Trump: I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it.

Unknown: Whoa.

Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.
...............................................................................................................................
Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

Transcript: Donald Trump’s Taped Comments About Women (Published 2016)

Mr. Trump was filmed talking to Billy Bush of “Access Hollywood” on the set of “Days of Our Lives” in 2005 when Mr. Trump repeatedly made vulgar remarks about women.

www.nytimes.com

​

 

[Mac1958]

Just as everyone understands Trump is the only person who is allowed to get away with this boorish behavior

This is the part that amazes me. Just as no one else behaves like him, no one else is given room to behave that way like him. We would admonish our children for his behaviors.

The judge should inform his "lawyers" that he has ordered preparations to be made in case the defendant is jailed for contempt, and all security provisions should be made just in case.

They bitch about a "two tiered justice system", while we're watching their child-god being treated as no one else would.

 

[berg80]

This is the part that amazes me. Just as no one else behaves like him, no one else is given room to behave that way like him. We would admonish our children for his behaviors.

The judge should inform his "lawyers" that he has ordered preparations to be made in case the defendant is jailed for contempt, and all security provisions should be made just in case.

They bitch about a "two tiered justice system", while we're watching their child-god being treated as no one else would.

Agreed. I vacillate between wanting to see a judge call his bluff and send him to jail but realizing the consequences of doing so might help him so wanting judges to maintain their restraint.

 

[Mac1958]

Agreed. I vacillate between wanting to see a judge call his bluff and send him to jail but realizing the consequences of doing so might help him so wanting judges to maintain their restraint.

I think we've reached a point at which we don't have a choice. He's turning our justice system into a fucking nursery school, and letting him do it only invites more.

I think taking him off the ballot is going too far, but this is much easier and he's essentially daring the judge to do something. This is an insult.

 

[MarathonMike]

I wouldn't call Trump PATHETIC. Pathetic implies there's nothing he can do about his behaviour. Trump is being a wilful, entitled asshole. There is nothing pathetic about him at all.

91 phony indictments all politically motivated by your Democrat Masters. That is what is important, not your "feelz" about Trump.

 

[rampart]

This is a curious and outrageous case to anyone shackled by the burden of rational thought.

The original "RAPE" accusation, made in a book, was preposterous on its face. Can anyone even imagine Trump, who always travels with a large posse, forcibly raping a middle-aged woman in a department store dressing room, and nobody noticing? It is ridiculous. When Trump called her out on her lie, she sued him for defamation. Only in Manhattan one might say.

She sued him for sexual assault, and the jury found that there was a "preponderance of evidence" that he did something to her - they HATE Trump in Manhattan - so they found for the Plaintiff, to wit, he sexually assaulted her. But it is noteworthy that they DID NOT FIND that he raped her. See preceding paragraph. But look what the judge did with this jury finding (highlighting is mine):

The jury also found that Trump did not “rape” Carroll, per the “narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law.” But Judge Kaplan noted in Caroll II that this definition did not capture how the term is commonly used – and that, properly understood outside the specific and limited context of the New York Penal Law, the jury found that Trump did indeed rape Carroll. “[T]he definition of rape in the New York Penal Law is far narrower than the meaning of ‘rape’ in common modern parlance, its definition in some dictionaries, in some federal and state criminal statutes, and elsewhere. The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’ Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

So while the jury found that Trump didn't rape her, they really found that he did rape her (according to the judge). Only in Manhattan.

So the judge seeks to forbid Trump from denying that he raped her, asserting that such a claim of innocence on his part IS SLANDER!

With apologies for my Pittsburgh-ese reaction, but the judge is a Jag-Off who, in most other jurisdictions, would be sanctioned for judicial misconduct and possibly even disbarred. But this is New York, so all bets are off.

apparently, trump's "large posse" consists of lackeys and enablers who will protect him in hopes of future reward.

how do those "big burley men" get past the posse when they want to shed a tear and call daddy "sir?" might be fairly easy to engulf a stray female when the boss needs to grab one.

 

[marvin martian]

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial​

The judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll's damages trial in New York federal court warned former President Donald Trump on Wednesday that he might bar him from the courtroom for grousing loudly and animatedly to his lawyer during Carroll's testimony about how he repeatedly defamed her.

"Mr. Trump has the right to be present here. That right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive" and "if he disregards court orders," U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan told Trump and his attorney after the jury had left the courtroom.

"Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial. I understand you are very eager for me to do that," Kaplan said.

"I would love it. I would love it," Trump responded.

"I know you would, because you just can’t control yourself in this circumstance, apparently. You just can't," Kaplan shot back before an exasperated Trump threw his hands in the air. "Neither can you," Trump said.

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial

Trump complained repeatedly to his lawyers during Carroll's testimony, leading U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan to ask him "to keep his voice down so the jury does not overhear it.”

www.nbcnews.com

Just as everyone understands Trump is the only person who is allowed to get away with this boorish behavior, for which a contempt of court charge was justified, everyone understands why. Judge Kaplan certainly does. Trump is extending his chin while sticking his thumb in Kaplan's eye hoping for a response. An appropriate response. But one that will be seen by The Following as Trump being victimized. Obfuscating the fact E. Jean Carroll is the victim.

Exposing corruption in our justice system isn't martyrdom, it's activism.

 

[okfine]

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial​

The judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll's damages trial in New York federal court warned former President Donald Trump on Wednesday that he might bar him from the courtroom for grousing loudly and animatedly to his lawyer during Carroll's testimony about how he repeatedly defamed her.

"Mr. Trump has the right to be present here. That right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive" and "if he disregards court orders," U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan told Trump and his attorney after the jury had left the courtroom.

"Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial. I understand you are very eager for me to do that," Kaplan said.

"I would love it. I would love it," Trump responded.

"I know you would, because you just can’t control yourself in this circumstance, apparently. You just can't," Kaplan shot back before an exasperated Trump threw his hands in the air. "Neither can you," Trump said.

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial

Trump complained repeatedly to his lawyers during Carroll's testimony, leading U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan to ask him "to keep his voice down so the jury does not overhear it.”

www.nbcnews.com

Just as everyone understands Trump is the only person who is allowed to get away with this boorish behavior, for which a contempt of court charge was justified, everyone understands why. Judge Kaplan certainly does. Trump is extending his chin while sticking his thumb in Kaplan's eye hoping for a response. An appropriate response. But one that will be seen by The Following as Trump being victimized. Obfuscating the fact E. Jean Carroll is the victim.

I loved it when the judge said shut up and sit down.

 

[berg80]

I think we've reached a point at which we don't have a choice. He's turning our justice system into a fucking nursery school, and letting him do it only invites more.

I think taking him off the ballot is going too far, but this is much easier and he's essentially daring the judge to do something. This is an insult.

Probably right. The cult members aren't going to get more cultish if a judge throws his ass in jail where it belongs.

 

[berg80]

I loved it when the judge said shut up and sit down.

But he probably should have said, "bailiffs, remove that man from my courtroom so order can be restored. Mr. Trump, you are held in contempt."

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Stalinist Struggle is REAL........

really PATHETIC!!!!!

Carroll is the victim, Trump the victimizer.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Carroll is the victim, Trump the victimizer.

Cool story, bro.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Stalinist Struggle is REAL........

really PATHETIC!!!!!

This is a lie.

Trump committed sexual assault, he has only himself to blame.

 

[BackAgain]

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial​

The judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll's damages trial in New York federal court warned former President Donald Trump on Wednesday that he might bar him from the courtroom for grousing loudly and animatedly to his lawyer during Carroll's testimony about how he repeatedly defamed her.

"Mr. Trump has the right to be present here. That right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive" and "if he disregards court orders," U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan told Trump and his attorney after the jury had left the courtroom.

"Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial. I understand you are very eager for me to do that," Kaplan said.

"I would love it. I would love it," Trump responded.

"I know you would, because you just can’t control yourself in this circumstance, apparently. You just can't," Kaplan shot back before an exasperated Trump threw his hands in the air. "Neither can you," Trump said.

Agitated Trump says 'I would love it' after judge threatens to boot him from E. Jean Carroll defamation trial

Trump complained repeatedly to his lawyers during Carroll's testimony, leading U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan to ask him "to keep his voice down so the jury does not overhear it.”

www.nbcnews.com

Just as everyone understands Trump is the only person who is allowed to get away with this boorish behavior, for which a contempt of court charge was justified, everyone understands why. Judge Kaplan certainly does. Trump is extending his chin while sticking his thumb in Kaplan's eye hoping for a response. An appropriate response. But one that will be seen by The Following as Trump being victimized. Obfuscating the fact E. Jean Carroll is the victim.

It is improper courtroom behavior.

Of course, the judge has exhibited open hostility and bias against Trump. And that’s also improper courtroom behavior.

 

[berg80]

Of course, the judge has exhibited open hostility and bias against Trump.

No he hasn't. But I understand your need to believe every bullshit accusation Trump makes. It helps you feel like less of a fool for supporting him.

 

[SeaMajor7]

This is a lie.

Trump committed sexual assault, he has only himself to blame.

Cool story, commie.