9 HUGE rallies this weekend!! Get your popcorn ready s0ns!!

Almost everyone is coming at this as a moral issue, i.e. your reference to the high ground.
All elected officials should be coming at this from a lawful, constitutional ground.
They should all be asking, no demanding that racism, hatred, bigotry, etc. must be tolerated without violence.
It's not being done.
Trump comes the closest, but look at the grief he is taking from all sides.


amazing, traitor trump and his trumpswab apologists STILL don't get it. :itsok:

how hard is it to say violent tactics are unacceptable BUT there is no moral equivalence between these causes?

not very hard for a decent leader, so WHY is it SO difficult for mr drumpf to discern the difference??

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So basically Thoughtcrime, you fascist twat.
 
those who wished to have the confederate monuments removed from public places petitioned their government for a redress of legitimate grievances and their local governments voted in favor of removing these confederate monuments...

WHY do these angry violent neo nazi confederates hate FREE SPEACH??? :eusa_think:



Disturbing Pictures From The History Of America's Nazis
Since the 1930s, American Nazi parties have sought to advance their agenda of hate, bigotry, and ignorance.


Disturbing Pictures From The History Of America's Nazis

When local government assholes cave into a small minority of butt hurt protesters, it isn't democracy in action, it's pandering.

And what about those upstanding citizens who pulled down that Statue on their own?
 
Almost everyone is coming at this as a moral issue, i.e. your reference to the high ground.
All elected officials should be coming at this from a lawful, constitutional ground.
They should all be asking, no demanding that racism, hatred, bigotry, etc. must be tolerated without violence.
It's not being done.
Trump comes the closest, but look at the grief he is taking from all sides.


amazing, traitor trump and his trumpswab apologists STILL don't get it. :itsok:

how hard is it to say violent tactics are unacceptable BUT there is no moral equivalence between these causes?

not very hard for a decent leader, so WHY is it SO difficult for mr drumpf to discern the difference??

tlyoidfqe3gz.png

So basically Thoughtcrime, you fascist twat.



give it up spock, your twisted logic is chasing its own tail...
 
Almost everyone is coming at this as a moral issue, i.e. your reference to the high ground.
All elected officials should be coming at this from a lawful, constitutional ground.
They should all be asking, no demanding that racism, hatred, bigotry, etc. must be tolerated without violence.
It's not being done.
Trump comes the closest, but look at the grief he is taking from all sides.


amazing, traitor trump and his trumpswab apologists STILL don't get it. :itsok:

how hard is it to say violent tactics are unacceptable BUT there is no moral equivalence between these causes?

not very hard for a decent leader, so WHY is it SO difficult for mr drumpf to discern the difference??

tlyoidfqe3gz.png

So basically Thoughtcrime, you fascist twat.



give it up spock, your twisted logic is chasing its own tail...

No what you are saying is government gets to decide that certain viewpoints are illegal. So basically end the 1st amendment.

Government can't decide viewpoints are illegal, only actions.

Karl Popper is an asshat.
 
no, that's what your twisted brain claims that i am saying...

i can lead a jackass to logic but i can not make him think.
 
Almost everyone is coming at this as a moral issue, i.e. your reference to the high ground.
All elected officials should be coming at this from a lawful, constitutional ground.
They should all be asking, no demanding that racism, hatred, bigotry, etc. must be tolerated without violence.
It's not being done.
Trump comes the closest, but look at the grief he is taking from all sides.


amazing, traitor trump and his trumpswab apologists STILL don't get it. :itsok:

how hard is it to say violent tactics are unacceptable BUT there is no moral equivalence between these causes?

not very hard for a decent leader, so WHY is it SO difficult for mr drumpf to discern the difference??

tlyoidfqe3gz.png

The right has been saying the same thing about socialism and communism for years and ya'll called them deplorable. Don't expect them to respect your personal opinions now that the shoe's on the other foot...
 
no, that's what your twisted brain claims that i am saying...

i can lead a jackass to logic but i can not make him think.

Who gets to decide which views are not allowed?



get a grip dude, it's not about "views", it's about PUBLIC POLICY.

care to address the question i posed in post #15 ??

Violent-Clashes-Erupt-at-Unite-The-Right-Rally-In-Charlottesville_1.jpeg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpeg

those who wished to have confederate monuments removed from public places petitioned their government for a redress of legitimate grievances and their local governments then voted in favor of removing these confederate monuments...

WHY do these angry violent neo nazi confederate thugs hate "FREE SPEECH" ?? :eusa_think:




“Neo-Nazis, Klansmen and white supremacists came to Charlottesville heavily armed, spewing hatred and looking for a fight. One of them murdered a young woman in an act of domestic terrorism, and two of our finest officers were killed in a tragic accident while serving to protect this community,”

Virginia governor: Charlottesville violence was not ‘both sides’





This weekend's Charlottesville rally represents an alliance between pro-Confederates and Nazis

The latest alt-right rally over a Confederate statue represents a terrifying resurgence of Nazi rhetoric.


The alt-right rally Friday night at the University of Virginia campus and Saturday in the city of Charlottesville is technically about a statue of Robert E. Lee. But common to many participants in the rally is a willingness to use — and celebrate — Nazi symbols and ideology.

Friday’s protesters shouted anti-Semitic and Nazi-associated slogans, including "blood and soil”: a phrase that references the German ideology of Blut und Boden, or the idea that a person is defined by his or her relationship to ethnic ancestry (blood) and the land they cultivate (soil).

Protesters also shouted “Jews will not replace us” (a more explicitly anti-Semitic take on “you will not replace us,” a white-supremacist alt-right slogan that arose in response to actor Shia LaBoeuf’s anti-Trump performance art piece “He Will Not Divide Us”).

Attendees at the rally also wore Nazi paraphernalia, carried flags with swastikas alongside Confederate flags, and wore shirts with quotations by Adolf Hitler.

This weekend's Charlottesville rally represents an alliance between pro-Confederates and Nazis
 
deplorable is as deplorable does... and ms hillary's estimate of "half" has proven to be a low estimate. :eusa_clap:
 
no, that's what your twisted brain claims that i am saying...

i can lead a jackass to logic but i can not make him think.

Who gets to decide which views are not allowed?



get a grip dude, it's not about "views", it's about PUBLIC POLICY.

care to address the question i posed in post #15 ??

Violent-Clashes-Erupt-at-Unite-The-Right-Rally-In-Charlottesville_1.jpeg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpeg

those who wished to have confederate monuments removed from public places petitioned their government for a redress of legitimate grievances and their local governments then voted in favor of removing these confederate monuments...

WHY do these angry violent neo nazi confederate thugs hate "FREE SPEECH" ?? :eusa_think:




“Neo-Nazis, Klansmen and white supremacists came to Charlottesville heavily armed, spewing hatred and looking for a fight. One of them murdered a young woman in an act of domestic terrorism, and two of our finest officers were killed in a tragic accident while serving to protect this community,”

Virginia governor: Charlottesville violence was not ‘both sides’





This weekend's Charlottesville rally represents an alliance between pro-Confederates and Nazis

The latest alt-right rally over a Confederate statue represents a terrifying resurgence of Nazi rhetoric.


The alt-right rally Friday night at the University of Virginia campus and Saturday in the city of Charlottesville is technically about a statue of Robert E. Lee. But common to many participants in the rally is a willingness to use — and celebrate — Nazi symbols and ideology.

Friday’s protesters shouted anti-Semitic and Nazi-associated slogans, including "blood and soil”: a phrase that references the German ideology of Blut und Boden, or the idea that a person is defined by his or her relationship to ethnic ancestry (blood) and the land they cultivate (soil).

Protesters also shouted “Jews will not replace us” (a more explicitly anti-Semitic take on “you will not replace us,” a white-supremacist alt-right slogan that arose in response to actor Shia LaBoeuf’s anti-Trump performance art piece “He Will Not Divide Us”).

Attendees at the rally also wore Nazi paraphernalia, carried flags with swastikas alongside Confederate flags, and wore shirts with quotations by Adolf Hitler.

This weekend's Charlottesville rally represents an alliance between pro-Confederates and Nazis

I did. Only a small vocal minority cares enough about the Statues to want them taken down.
 
deplorable is as deplorable does... and ms hillary's estimate of "half" has proven to be a low estimate. :eusa_clap:

Are you just responding to yourself, or are you too dumb to figure out the quote function 100% of the time?
 
The racist marchers had been angered by the city’s vote to remove the statue from the spot in Charlottesville where it has stood since 1924. That decision is part of a larger trend in which Southern states are reconsidering long-standing public monuments that honor or romanticize the Confederacy.

Even Jefferson Davis’s great-great-grandson thinks the Robert E. Lee statue should be removed from Charlottesville

Now, even Jefferson Davis’s great-great-grandson—an outspoken defender of the Confederate president’s legacy—says that the statue of Lee should be removed from public display.
 
USA Today reported in May that in North Carolina alone, 35 Confederate monuments have been built since the year 2000. It’s hard to argue that those monuments are about history and heritage.

The paper also points out that Kentucky is saturated with Confederate memorials — far more than, say, Union memorials — even though Kentuckians fought for the Union by a 2-1 margin.

A recent Phoenix New Times report
found that half of the six Confederate memorials in Arizona were built in 1999 or later, the most recent in 2010. The oldest of the six was erected nearly 80 years after the Civil War, during which Arizona wasn’t yet a state.



Opinion | We should treat Confederate monuments the way Moscow and Budapest have treated communist statue
 
The racist marchers had been angered by the city’s vote to remove the statue from the spot in Charlottesville where it has stood since 1924. That decision is part of a larger trend in which Southern states are reconsidering long-standing public monuments that honor or romanticize the Confederacy.

Even Jefferson Davis’s great-great-grandson thinks the Robert E. Lee statue should be removed from Charlottesville

Now, even Jefferson Davis’s great-great-grandson—an outspoken defender of the Confederate president’s legacy—says that the statue of Lee should be removed from public display.

He still holds his great-great-grandfather's grudge over Lee surrendering for him and the rest of the Confederacy.
 
Most counties in Mississippi have Confederate monuments outside or near their courthouses. In Brooksville in Noxubee County, a Confederate soldier stands along the railroad tracks that separate the white part of town from the black, almost as if to guard against integration.

Opinion | We should treat Confederate monuments the way Moscow and Budapest have treated communist statues

I’ve since reported numerous stories about injustices in the South, many of which involved racial bias, and in nearly every instance, the criminal-justice system that adjudicated those cases did so in courtrooms or police departments or district attorney’s offices or city halls that stand in the shadow of taxpayer-funded monuments celebrating the fight to keep black people as slaves.

[Confederate or not, which monuments should stay or go? We asked, you answered.]


Perhaps we’re too accustomed to it to notice the absurdity, but it is unquestionably absurd: Each day, thousands of black, shackled defendants appear before judges in courthouses guarded by memorials to a cause that believed those defendants’ ancestors were little more than livestock. The symbolism is inescapable. If a totalitarian country were to try members of an oppressed minority in a courtroom flanked by monuments to those who did the oppressing, we’d rightly call them show trials. Yet we’ve been doing exactly this in wide swaths of the South for more than a century.


Supporters of keeping Confederate monuments in place argue that they’re not about celebrating slavery or oppression, but about acknowledging heritage and the past. They argue that to remove the monuments is an attempt to rewrite history. But that isn’t quite right. No one is suggesting we remove the Confederate army from the history of Bull Run or Gettysburg. The objection is to the monuments and memorials that celebrate or glorify the Confederacy, or that explicitly honor those most known for fighting to keep black people from obtaining the legal rights of citizens.

The Battle of Liberty Place monument that was recently removed from New Orleans amid much controversy is a good example. This was literally a monument to a bloody Reconstruction-era rebellion against the state government staged by a white supremacist group. It wasn’t erected after the Civil War, but in 1891, as Reconstruction ended and Louisiana was actively oppressing, terrorizing and disenfranchising black people. The city added a plaque celebrating white supremacy in 1932, nearly 70 years after the Civil War and nearly 60 years after the battle itself.

In fact, the “history and heritage” argument is a hard sell for a lot of the Confederate monuments and memorials.
 
Most counties in Mississippi have Confederate monuments outside or near their courthouses. In Brooksville in Noxubee County, a Confederate soldier stands along the railroad tracks that separate the white part of town from the black, almost as if to guard against integration.

Opinion | We should treat Confederate monuments the way Moscow and Budapest have treated communist statues

I’ve since reported numerous stories about injustices in the South, many of which involved racial bias, and in nearly every instance, the criminal-justice system that adjudicated those cases did so in courtrooms or police departments or district attorney’s offices or city halls that stand in the shadow of taxpayer-funded monuments celebrating the fight to keep black people as slaves.

[Confederate or not, which monuments should stay or go? We asked, you answered.]


Perhaps we’re too accustomed to it to notice the absurdity, but it is unquestionably absurd: Each day, thousands of black, shackled defendants appear before judges in courthouses guarded by memorials to a cause that believed those defendants’ ancestors were little more than livestock. The symbolism is inescapable. If a totalitarian country were to try members of an oppressed minority in a courtroom flanked by monuments to those who did the oppressing, we’d rightly call them show trials. Yet we’ve been doing exactly this in wide swaths of the South for more than a century.


Supporters of keeping Confederate monuments in place argue that they’re not about celebrating slavery or oppression, but about acknowledging heritage and the past. They argue that to remove the monuments is an attempt to rewrite history. But that isn’t quite right. No one is suggesting we remove the Confederate army from the history of Bull Run or Gettysburg. The objection is to the monuments and memorials that celebrate or glorify the Confederacy, or that explicitly honor those most known for fighting to keep black people from obtaining the legal rights of citizens.

The Battle of Liberty Place monument that was recently removed from New Orleans amid much controversy is a good example. This was literally a monument to a bloody Reconstruction-era rebellion against the state government staged by a white supremacist group. It wasn’t erected after the Civil War, but in 1891, as Reconstruction ended and Louisiana was actively oppressing, terrorizing and disenfranchising black people. The city added a plaque celebrating white supremacy in 1932, nearly 70 years after the Civil War and nearly 60 years after the battle itself.

In fact, the “history and heritage” argument is a hard sell for a lot of the Confederate monuments and memorials.

The battle of liberty place monument is one of the few I think are blatantly supremacist. That one I have no issue with it going.

Most of the rest honor the Confederate fallen, and you have to be a pretty petty bitch to gloat over wanting to remove a memorial for them.
 
You can post till your fingers bleed Valerie The suppression of individual beliefs, personal opinion and viewpoints, and the constitutional right to do so are a given - be it religion, political ideology, racism, or any "offensive" views. That is called freedom - it has good and bad things, but unless you allow them all, you are advocating against freedom.
 

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